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Will the Ravens make a trade for #1 WR before the deadline

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I hope they do - but I'm afraid they won't.

 

I don't think the Ravens can compete with the elite this year without a deep WR threat. I don't see anyone on the team that can step in and do it.

 

If they don't take a chance - and try to get someone like Bowe they'll struggle to win 9 games.

 

Keeping my fingers crossed - but I know its a foolish hope

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Will the Ravens land a #1 WR, like Bowe? No, they won't. But don't worry. They've got David Tyree! (OMG...it's hard to even say that with a straight face.)

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No. It isn't even their biggest weakness at this point. They have people who can catch the ball. (at least some) They need people who can stop the other guys people from catching the ball.

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Tyree wasn't signed to be a #1 or #3 or #4 WR. He was signed to be the 5th WR and help on ST - an area that has been shaky this year and needs another quality player with Ayanbadejo on IR.

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Tyree wasn't signed to be a #1 or #3 or #4 WR. He was signed to be the 5th WR and help on ST - an area that has been shaky this year and needs another quality player with Ayanbadejo on IR.
Exactly. Yet...the WRs corps still stinks! And it's been obvious the entire off season. While WRs have gone to other teams, and other teams (Colts, Giants) have had unknown WRs step up, yet the Ravens still find themselves with huge holes at the WR spot.

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Exactly! Yet...the WRs corps still stinks. While WRs have gone to other teams, and other teams (Colts, Giants) have had unknown WRs step up, and yet the Ravens still find themselves with huge holes at the WR spot. I'll say one thing for you, though...you're consistent. Consistently making excuses for the inexcusable. Props!

 

What are you rambling about? I never made a comment on the quality of the WR corps. In fact, I've never said that it didn't need to be ungraded.

 

It's not an excuse to explain that Tyree was NOT signed for his WR prowess (if he has any). He was signed for ST.

 

Again, who else is available at this point to bring in as a #1 WR?

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Too late for a trade now. Rarely do mid-season trades for WR's have much of an impact. This needed to be done in the off-season.

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Again, who else is available at this point to bring in as a #1 WR?
Again...your little Johnny Come Lately "who are they going to bring in NOW" is EXACTLY what I'm talking about. And yet, even at this late date, the Ravens can still see what they can do to bring in Bowe. Granted, they've been asleep at the switch so long now, it is, admittedly, a bit late. But instead of you pointing THAT out, you hide behind the tired old line: "Who's available NOW"? What a joke, man. Seriously. Man up to your own endless excuse making, or shut up already. I've watched you make the same excuses for years defending Brian Billick, Kyle Boller, Ozzie Newsome, etc. Don't you ever get tired of it? You think THAT makes you a "real" fan?

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Too late for a trade now. Rarely do mid-season trades for WR's have much of an impact. This needed to be done in the off-season.
Oh...so I guess that Braylon Edwards didn't have much of an impact in the Jets game, even though the Jets lost?

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Again...your little Johnny Come Lately "who are they going to bring in NOW" is EXACTLY what I'm talking about. And yet, even at this late date, the Ravens can still see what they can do to bring in Bowe. Granted, they've been asleep at the switch so long now, it is, admittedly, a bit late. But instead of you pointing THAT out, you hide behind the tired old line: "Who's available NOW"? What a joke, man. Seriously. Man up to your own endless excuse making, or shut up already.

 

Again, find one time that I've said an upgrade at WR wasn't/isn't needed. Go ahead - find it!

 

You can't - and you can't seem to comprehend the logic of the fact that as we sit here today, Tyree wasn't signed to play WR, except in a pinch. He was added for other reasons - to help the ST. It's not an excuse, but an explanation that no one should be judging the move on any terms than what it actually is - a move to improve the ST.

 

They will be judged on what they did or didn't do at WR over this past offseason when the season is done. But, as of NOW, they can only do what they can do NOW - hence the question of who is available NOW.

 

In an effort to throw mud at other posters and play "look at me", you constantly seem to be unable to read what is actually written and only want to spin it as something else.

 

Lastly, is Bowe even available? Do you know that they haven't inquired? Have you heard of any other team inquiring?

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Hate to point out the obvious but Edwards was the first WR traded this year...there was never anyone to trade for, you can't just decide you are going to go out and trade for someone if that person isn't available. In fact, there are so many factors that you aren't taking into account, just like this summer when you jumped bandwagons becuase the Ravens didn't over pay for Jason Brown. You have a first grade understanding of football and a debtors understanding of investing money in the future.

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Tyree wasn't signed to be a #1 or #3 or #4 WR. He was signed to be the 5th WR and help on ST - an area that has been shaky this year and needs another quality player with Ayanbadejo on IR.

 

He may have been signed for his ST ability but that was about 4th on our lists of needs right now. Yes, he was probably the cheapest and easiest to fill of those needs but this is a very minor signing, as I'm sure you will agree. I would like to see us be more aggressive in addressing our other weaknesses right now. You cannot just have a guy like D-Will sitting on your bench with the receiver problems we have and not go out and do something. Well you can but the results probably won't be that good. We could also really use some depth at OT. It seems like we have too many guys on the team that aren't really useful. Moll, Rolle(even though he's inactive), LJ Smith, D-Will, Carr is a bust, Oneil Cousins. Yanda is still not 100% and that showed on Sunday. Too many question marks for a team that is supposed to contend.

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Again, find one time that I've said an upgrade at WR wasn't/isn't needed. Go ahead - find it!

 

You can't - and you can't seem to comprehend the logic of the fact that as we sit here today, Tyree wasn't signed to play WR, except in a pinch. He was added for other reasons - to help the ST. It's not an excuse, but an explanation that no one should be judging the move on any terms than what it actually is - a move to improve the ST.

 

They will be judged on what they did or didn't do at WR over this past offseason when the season is done. But, as of NOW, they can only do what they can do NOW - hence the question of who is available NOW.

 

In an effort to throw mud at other posters and play "look at me", you constantly seem to be unable to read what is actually written and only want to spin it as something else.

 

Lastly, is Bowe even available? Do you know that they haven't inquired? Have you heard of any other team inquiring?

Same ol, same ol.

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Oh...so I guess that Braylon Edwards didn't have much of an impact in the Jets game, even though the Jets lost?

 

It's real easy to say that after 1 game...but if you looked at Edwards in Cleveland, for the past few years, he wasn't very good...way too many drops. Yes, he had 2 good seasons I believe, but he had more seasons where he was extremely inconsistent. Let's see how Edwards does the rest of the season before screaming about why we didn't trade for him.

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Oh...so I guess that Braylon Edwards didn't have much of an impact in the Jets game, even though the Jets lost?

 

It typically takes a bit of time for a WR to learn an offense and find a rythm with a new QB. There are exceptions, but they are not the norm.

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It typically takes a bit of time for a WR to learn an offense and find a rythm with a new QB. There are exceptions, but they are not the norm.
There are always exceptions. That's why it doesn't make sense to make sweeping statements that picking up somebody after the season starts rarely helps the team immediately. Because you never know when that pickup is going to help your team. Meanwhile, the one thing that IS clear, however, is that if the Ravens don't make some major move(s), they will not be able to compete against the big boys.

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He may have been signed for his ST ability but that was about 4th on our lists of needs right now. Yes, he was probably the cheapest and easiest to fill of those needs but this is a very minor signing, as I'm sure you will agree. I would like to see us be more aggressive in addressing our other weaknesses right now. You cannot just have a guy like D-Will sitting on your bench with the receiver problems we have and not go out and do something.

 

 

I understand your point and they certainly have issues, but the NFL isn't like MLB or other sports where you can just trade for a guy and plug him in into the lineup with great success. It can happen, but isn't that common.

 

Every year, a lot of teams have holes they could/should address, but rarely are there many major in season trade deadline deals.

 

Again, what can they do at this point? The time to build your team in the NFL is in the offseason. At this point, it's just an "is what it is" proposition. :o

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Too late for a trade now. Rarely do mid-season trades for WR's have much of an impact. This needed to be done in the off-season.

 

How did Roy Williams become the "rule" for mid season trades? He is not the only receiver that was traded in the middle of the season. Chris Chambers was traded to San Diego in the middle of the 2007. He started the last 7 games and finished with 35 rec / 4 tds and 555 yds. You do the projections. We seen what Braylon did with just days of practice with his new team. It's clear from this season so far that the problem wasn't a mid season trade, but Roy Williams himself.

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we need a DB!! let webb go for nickel and dime!! get a chris mac type.. playmaking ability minus the tude dude!! big tall and would smack the crap outta oucho stinko!

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