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The Koch Brothers and George Soros: No Difference/Same Thing


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#1 RuxtonRifle

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Posted 27 February 2011 - 10:43 AM

Ideologies are obviously 180 degrees apart, but, is there any difference between the roles each side plays in the American Politic fabric. Koch is essentially running the same playbook that Soros does: align with so-called non-profits, and fund and fuel your agenda.

There is no difference.
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Posted 27 February 2011 - 10:51 AM

Ideologies are obviously 180 degrees apart, but, is there any difference between the roles each side plays in the American Politic fabric. Koch is essentially running the same playbook that Soros does: align with so-called non-profits, and fund and fuel your agenda.

There is no difference.

Keep your filth to yourself. Soros is a billionaire who cares about the middle class. The Coke brothers are billionaires who care about the ruling class. Hence the union busting, and tax breaks for the rich.

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Posted 27 February 2011 - 10:53 AM

Koch Trust fund babies versus Soros.

Trust fund babies like the Koch brothers want to be protected behind security guards and gates rather then meet any real people. So, they hire stooges to suck the toe jam out between their toes. and obviously there a lot of people willing to suck.


"Soros immigrated to England in 1947 and, as an impoverished student, lived with his uncle, an Orthodox Jew. His uncle paid his living expenses while he attended the London School of Economics, where he received a Bachelor of Science in Philosophy in 1952.[22] While a student of the philosopher Karl Popper, Soros worked as a railway porter and as a waiter. A University tutor requested aid for Soros, and he received £40 from a Religious Society of Friends (Quaker) charity.[23] He eventually secured an entry-level position with London merchant bank Singer & Friedlander. He has a cousin from that family era, Caron Enlander (née Weiss) in New York."


Now, I agree with you to the extent that democracy is undermined by big money.

However, when the government protected media corporations make billions of dollars from election advertising and coverage but, also depend on billions of dollars from their customers, Exxon/Mobil, Aetna, .... The people are screwed.

Thomas Jefferson:

"I hope we shall crush in its birth the aristocracy of our moneyed corporations which dare already to challenge our government in a trial of strength, and bid defiance to the laws of our country."

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Posted 27 February 2011 - 11:01 AM

Ok. Looks like some libs are blinded by their own fury that it clouds their logic and ability to read. The first part of my post states, "ideologies aside..." nor does my post ask for differences in how the acquired their wealth, nor does the post defend or postulate which one cares more for an economic class. The point of the post is that Koch plays the same role or resource for Conservatives that Soros plays for Liberals.
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Posted 27 February 2011 - 11:02 AM

Koch Industries employs 80,000 people and makes a wide range of industrial products. Soros got rich on currency speculation and sinking the Bank Of England. IOW, he got rich in precisely the kind of way that liberals most loathe. Their hypocrisy is noted.
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Posted 27 February 2011 - 11:20 AM

Ok. Looks like some libs are blinded by their own fury that it clouds their logic and ability to read. The first part of my post states, "ideologies aside..." nor does my post ask for differences in how the acquired their wealth, nor does the post defend or postulate which one cares more for an economic class. The point of the post is that Koch plays the same role or resource for Conservatives that Soros plays for Liberals.


You heralded "No difference" in your thread title. Then, you want limit the facts upon which you draw your conclusion and deprive anyone else of comment.

I do not want to limit competiton of individuals by allowing some, by virtue of birth, to crush the aspirations of others.
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Posted 27 February 2011 - 11:21 AM

Keep your filth to yourself. Soros is a billionaire who cares about the middle class. The Coke brothers are billionaires who care about the ruling class. Hence the union busting, and tax breaks for the rich.


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LOL!!!!!

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Posted 27 February 2011 - 11:27 AM

Keep your filth to yourself. Soros is a billionaire who cares about the middle class. The Coke brothers are billionaires who care about the ruling class. Hence the union busting, and tax breaks for the rich.


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Posted 27 February 2011 - 12:00 PM

Libbies don't like having their own tactics used against them. It sends them into a frothing, gibbering an tittering rage as they become totally unhinged.
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#10 Lucque

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Posted 27 February 2011 - 12:02 PM

Libbies don't like having their own tactics used against them. It sends them into a frothing, gibbering an tittering rage as they become totally unhinged.


Just a friendly note.

Maybe you might want to reconsider using words like "unhinged".
Thomas Jefferson:

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#11 dsummoner

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Posted 27 February 2011 - 12:04 PM

Just a friendly note.

Maybe you might want to reconsider using words like "unhinged".


The spelling is correct and the usage is apt. Of course, calling the barely sane, on the best of days, Libbies, unhinged does tend to make them go completely batty as they bray wildly at the moon.:P:D
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Posted 27 February 2011 - 12:19 PM

If you guys spent half the time worrying about Goldman Sachs as you do George Soros your points on Soros might be easier to swallow.
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#13 Lucque

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Posted 27 February 2011 - 12:23 PM

Koch Industries employs 80,000 people and makes a wide range of industrial products. Soros got rich on currency speculation and sinking the Bank Of England. IOW, he got rich in precisely the kind of way that liberals most loathe. Their hypocrisy is noted.


Drug dealers employ more then that.

And they were not born with Koch Brother silver spoons.

Does the amount of people employed produce some counterpoint?
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Posted 27 February 2011 - 12:29 PM

Just a friendly note.

Maybe you might want to reconsider using words like "unhinged".


"Unhinged" is totally appropriate when addressing Liberal Insanity:

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Posted 27 February 2011 - 12:33 PM

If you guys spent half the time worrying about Goldman Sachs as you do George Soros your points on Soros might be easier to swallow.


It is interesting to note those on the left spend more time worrying about the Koch brothers.

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Posted 27 February 2011 - 12:34 PM

Libbies don't like having their own tactics used against them. It sends them into a frothing, gibbering an tittering rage as they become totally unhinged.


This is correct. It is amazing to see the outrage on the left because there are those on the right doing the very same things they are. Total hypocrisy.

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Posted 27 February 2011 - 12:35 PM

THE LIBERAL MIND:

The Psychological Causes of
Political Madness

By Lyle H. Rossiter, Jr., M.D.

http://www.libertymind.com/





Get YOUR copy today!


http://www.amazon.com/Liberal-Mind-Psychological-Political-Madness/dp/097795630X




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#18 bruceri

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Posted 27 February 2011 - 12:36 PM

Keep your filth to yourself. Soros is a billionaire who cares about the middle class. The Coke brothers are billionaires who care about the ruling class. Hence the union busting, and tax breaks for the rich.


It's posts like this that will keep most here from taking you seriously. You actually type it like you really believe it.

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Posted 27 February 2011 - 12:48 PM

It is interesting to note those on the left spend more time worrying about the Koch brothers.

I've never heard of them. But Soros is a sideshow in comparison to the effect Goldman Sachs has had on the average American.
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Posted 27 February 2011 - 12:50 PM

Keep your filth to yourself. Soros is a billionaire who cares about the middle class. The Coke brothers are billionaires who care about the ruling class. Hence the union busting, and tax breaks for the rich.

So when will Soro be handing out his billions to the middle class until be become one of us, that is, if he "CARED SO MUCH".




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