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#1 tinkb

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Posted 12 March 2011 - 10:34 AM

When it comes to the scope of the AAU/Club season DMV chapter it's really not about what team you play on whose sponsoring them or what tournaments they play in. *Being that there are only about 25 relevant area players, in the big picture of club level basketball the juice is with those 25 and what they are doing in a collective form. *

Most of the area programs are looking to or have acquired players from that list of 25 and for the in most cases economics is and has always been a key factor in that acquisition. *However some fans believe name recognition is most important, some say the that tournament participation drives players and still others shoe company affiliation is what's up. *

Here are a few things to think about in the next few weeks pertaining to spring/summer AAU/Club basketball.

1) If at least three of the 25 are on your team it doesn't really matter who you play for.

2) One of the 25 alone is not enough to fill your court with coaches or get you in the main court.

3) If you are committed to a college you are not one of the 25 and have little value to tournament/club directors, and only comparative value to scouting services.

4) Just because your team gets a pair of free shoes doesn't mean you are a sponsored team.

5) Playing on a top team means absolutely nothing if you aren't playing and little if you are playing out of position.

6) Playing in the losers bracket in front of 60 college coaches is not actually losing even if your team loses by 20 as long as your doing something meaningful.

7) Playing in a big time tournament in an auxiliary gym in front of no coaches is whack and happens to 90% of teams that either (a) don't have at least two of the 25 *on their roster (B) don't have a history of producing quality players © don't have a relationship with the tournament director

8) If you have at least three of the 25 there is no need to travel the world for attention you can play in Joe Blows tourney and still attract some coaches if you have communications skills.

9) If you have zero of the 25 there is no need to travel the world for attention, save your money.

10) If you are trying to figure out if you or your player is one of the 25, then they probably aren't.

11) There are about 15 players that are not in the 25 that should be and 4 that are simply better than 10 of the 25 but need to get on the right stage with the right people to show it to the relevant people.

12) Spending money on unofficial visits or going to college camps of schools that aren't recruiting you is whack and a waste of time and money.

13) Non certified events in July is whack and a waste of time and money.

14) Club, AAU and H.S. coaches that don't let you know what schools have made contact or are recruiting you are whack.

15) Getting a letter from a school doesn't mean they are recruiting you, contacting each school that has sent you a letter and giving them your spring/summer schedule is a very good ideal.

16) (a) If your team pays full price to enter tournaments you are not as elite as you think you are (B) if your player pays full price to play on said team, she is not as elite as you thought she was.

17) Keep your personal business off of Twitter, Facebook and message boards.

18) Playing on your high school team during the spring/summer club season may help your h.s. team get better but can be recruiting suicide if your h.s. team (a) isn't showcasing you in your college position (B) doesn't have 2-3 of the 25 to back it's roster.

19) If you aren't in the group of 25 or your team doesn't carry the elite status you can still be recruited many local tournaments have coaches that are looking for players that can play that don't have there heads so blown up that they will look at all available options. Save some gas.

20) Paying a service to do something that you can do yourself is silly unless they can do it 10 times better.*

***Bonus: It's better to ask how you can get down than to hate on those that actually are down.*

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Posted 14 March 2011 - 01:37 AM

they are good athletes

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Posted 14 March 2011 - 01:24 PM

Awesome Post Tinkb ... Words for players, parents and coaches to live by.

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Posted 14 March 2011 - 01:57 PM

Good Job Tink. Rumors of mergers and team hopping dominated the RAC over the weekend. Sounds like some players and parents should read your rules. Should be an interesting summer as usual.

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Posted 14 March 2011 - 04:11 PM

Tink...I applaude you! You are exactly right! Hey, you forgot those who have offers and are waiting for the "bigger school"...

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Posted 14 March 2011 - 04:34 PM

Tink...I applaude you! You are exactly right! Hey, you forgot those who have offers and are waiting for the "bigger school"...


Oh yes, speak on that. My pet peeve. We have some kids looking crazy right now with no offers, after passing on several mid majors.

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Posted 14 March 2011 - 05:34 PM

What's most ESSENTIAL is making sure your daughter is playing with an organization that has a real resume; a proven track record of girls getting better; playing their proper college positions; plying in the appropriate events; in the relevent camps all-star, college, and otherwise; has the needed connections with college coaches, scouts, pundits, and event operators--and most importantly is there an ongoing history of helping girls go to college for free?

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Posted 15 March 2011 - 06:17 AM

When it comes to the scope of the AAU/Club season DMV chapter it's really not about what team you play on whose sponsoring them or what tournaments they play in. *Being that there are only about 25 relevant area players, in the big picture of club level basketball the juice is with those 25 and what they are doing in a collective form. *

Most of the area programs are looking to or have acquired players from that list of 25 and for the in most cases economics is and has always been a key factor in that acquisition. *However some fans believe name recognition is most important, some say the that tournament participation drives players and still others shoe company affiliation is what's up. *

Here are a few things to think about in the next few weeks pertaining to spring/summer AAU/Club basketball.

1) If at least three of the 25 are on your team it doesn't really matter who you play for.

2) One of the 25 alone is not enough to fill your court with coaches or get you in the main court.

3) If you are committed to a college you are not one of the 25 and have little value to tournament/club directors, and only comparative value to scouting services.

4) Just because your team gets a pair of free shoes doesn't mean you are a sponsored team.

5) Playing on a top team means absolutely nothing if you aren't playing and little if you are playing out of position.

6) Playing in the losers bracket in front of 60 college coaches is not actually losing even if your team loses by 20 as long as your doing something meaningful.

7) Playing in a big time tournament in an auxiliary gym in front of no coaches is whack and happens to 90% of teams that either (a) don't have at least two of the 25 *on their roster (B) don't have a history of producing quality players © don't have a relationship with the tournament director

8) If you have at least three of the 25 there is no need to travel the world for attention you can play in Joe Blows tourney and still attract some coaches if you have communications skills.

9) If you have zero of the 25 there is no need to travel the world for attention, save your money.

10) If you are trying to figure out if you or your player is one of the 25, then they probably aren't.

11) There are about 15 players that are not in the 25 that should be and 4 that are simply better than 10 of the 25 but need to get on the right stage with the right people to show it to the relevant people.

12) Spending money on unofficial visits or going to college camps of schools that aren't recruiting you is whack and a waste of time and money.

13) Non certified events in July is whack and a waste of time and money.

14) Club, AAU and H.S. coaches that don't let you know what schools have made contact or are recruiting you are whack.

15) Getting a letter from a school doesn't mean they are recruiting you, contacting each school that has sent you a letter and giving them your spring/summer schedule is a very good ideal.

16) (a) If your team pays full price to enter tournaments you are not as elite as you think you are (B) if your player pays full price to play on said team, she is not as elite as you thought she was.

17) Keep your personal business off of Twitter, Facebook and message boards.

18) Playing on your high school team during the spring/summer club season may help your h.s. team get better but can be recruiting suicide if your h.s. team (a) isn't showcasing you in your college position (B) doesn't have 2-3 of the 25 to back it's roster.

19) If you aren't in the group of 25 or your team doesn't carry the elite status you can still be recruited many local tournaments have coaches that are looking for players that can play that don't have there heads so blown up that they will look at all available options. Save some gas.

20) Paying a service to do something that you can do yourself is silly unless they can do it 10 times better.*

***Bonus: It's better to ask how you can get down than to hate on those that actually are down.*


Great Post. The problem is some players, parents, & coaches don't think this applies to them. 85% of the kids I have seen this season need not travel and just need to save money. Work on fundamentals for an in house league. Average price this summer per kid $550.00 dollars to register and travel.

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Posted 15 March 2011 - 06:45 AM

I just heard that Strickland left South Carolina and has not made a decision if she is coming back or not. I also checked the stats and she did not play in the last 3-4 games. Once again parents. A few years back she was the best player in this area. So much potential. Keep saying it will not be your child. For the coaches, you should send TINKB's "blurb" to all of your parents.

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Posted 15 March 2011 - 09:23 AM

I just heard that Strickland left South Carolina and has not made a decision if she is coming back or not. I also checked the stats and she did not play in the last 3-4 games. Once again parents. A few years back she was the best player in this area. So much potential. Keep saying it will not be your child. For the coaches, you should send TINKB's "blurb" to all of your parents.


I hope its not true. She been traveling everywhere and still dont have a home. Remmber everyone the old saying" GRASS IS NOT ALWAYS GREENER ON THE OTHER SIDE OR SIDES:rolleyes:

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Posted 15 March 2011 - 10:38 AM

Great Post. The problem is some players, parents, & coaches don't think this applies to them. 85% of the kids I have seen this season need not travel and just need to save money. Work on fundamentals for an in house league. Average price this summer per kid $550.00 dollars to register and travel.


Do you ever think that some kids can get better by playing better competition? I can say I have seen kids work harder because they want to be on a bigger stage.

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Posted 15 March 2011 - 11:16 AM

Just who would those 25 or so players be?

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Posted 16 March 2011 - 01:38 PM

Boo Williams Summer League - MD Girls Basketball
TRYOUTS - BOO WILLIAMS SUMMER LEAGUE - MARYLAND

14U, 15U, and 16U


Saturday, March 19th from 1:00 PM - 3:00 PM

Crusader Field House
1133 Largo Road
Upper Marlboro, Maryland 20744



http://www.eteamz.co...slgirlsbballmd/

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Posted 16 March 2011 - 02:14 PM

When it comes to the scope of the AAU/Club season DMV chapter it's really not about what team you play on whose sponsoring them or what tournaments they play in. *Being that there are only about 25 relevant area players, in the big picture of club level basketball the juice is with those 25 and what they are doing in a collective form. *

Most of the area programs are looking to or have acquired players from that list of 25 and for the in most cases economics is and has always been a key factor in that acquisition. *However some fans believe name recognition is most important, some say the that tournament participation drives players and still others shoe company affiliation is what's up. *

Here are a few things to think about in the next few weeks pertaining to spring/summer AAU/Club basketball.

1) If at least three of the 25 are on your team it doesn't really matter who you play for.

2) One of the 25 alone is not enough to fill your court with coaches or get you in the main court.

3) If you are committed to a college you are not one of the 25 and have little value to tournament/club directors, and only comparative value to scouting services.

4) Just because your team gets a pair of free shoes doesn't mean you are a sponsored team.

5) Playing on a top team means absolutely nothing if you aren't playing and little if you are playing out of position.

6) Playing in the losers bracket in front of 60 college coaches is not actually losing even if your team loses by 20 as long as your doing something meaningful.

7) Playing in a big time tournament in an auxiliary gym in front of no coaches is whack and happens to 90% of teams that either (a) don't have at least two of the 25 *on their roster (B) don't have a history of producing quality players © don't have a relationship with the tournament director

8) If you have at least three of the 25 there is no need to travel the world for attention you can play in Joe Blows tourney and still attract some coaches if you have communications skills.

9) If you have zero of the 25 there is no need to travel the world for attention, save your money.

10) If you are trying to figure out if you or your player is one of the 25, then they probably aren't.

11) There are about 15 players that are not in the 25 that should be and 4 that are simply better than 10 of the 25 but need to get on the right stage with the right people to show it to the relevant people.

12) Spending money on unofficial visits or going to college camps of schools that aren't recruiting you is whack and a waste of time and money.

13) Non certified events in July is whack and a waste of time and money.

14) Club, AAU and H.S. coaches that don't let you know what schools have made contact or are recruiting you are whack.

15) Getting a letter from a school doesn't mean they are recruiting you, contacting each school that has sent you a letter and giving them your spring/summer schedule is a very good ideal.

16) (a) If your team pays full price to enter tournaments you are not as elite as you think you are (B) if your player pays full price to play on said team, she is not as elite as you thought she was.

17) Keep your personal business off of Twitter, Facebook and message boards.

18) Playing on your high school team during the spring/summer club season may help your h.s. team get better but can be recruiting suicide if your h.s. team (a) isn't showcasing you in your college position (B) doesn't have 2-3 of the 25 to back it's roster.

19) If you aren't in the group of 25 or your team doesn't carry the elite status you can still be recruited many local tournaments have coaches that are looking for players that can play that don't have there heads so blown up that they will look at all available options. Save some gas.

20) Paying a service to do something that you can do yourself is silly unless they can do it 10 times better.*

***Bonus: It's better to ask how you can get down than to hate on those that actually are down.*


Excellent post! My biggest thing with girls aau is it is starting to look like the boys side. It is no longer about the girls but about club ego. Take out the time to develop these young ladies. Too many times girls leave a program that developed them and don't get any better. Average players need to go to the best programs to get looks. Great players get the coaches to come to them. I can't keep up with who plays for who and did this organization change names and is this organization joining with this organization. It sounds like wrestling or rap instead of girls basketball. Anyway I'm done venting. Good luck this summer coaches and players!

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Posted 16 March 2011 - 02:16 PM

The 25 are easy I want to know the 15 that should be in the 25 but are not.

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Posted 16 March 2011 - 06:30 PM

Boo Williams Summer League - MD Girls Basketball
TRYOUTS - BOO WILLIAMS SUMMER LEAGUE - MARYLAND

14U, 15U, and 16U


Saturday, March 19th from 1:00 PM - 3:00 PM

Crusader Field House
1133 Largo Road
Upper Marlboro, Maryland 20744



http://www.eteamz.co...slgirlsbballmd/


This is part of the problem. If you're going to come set up shop here in MD I want to see these programs starting from 9U all the way up. Do some work, develop some talent. There are a few programs in the area who are consistently doing that but then some other programs come in recruiting hard when they're in the 11th grade and then taking credit for all the players they have gotten into college and throwing around their fake sponsorships.

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Posted 16 March 2011 - 11:49 PM

This is part of the problem. If you're going to come set up shop here in MD I want to see these programs starting from 9U all the way up. Do some work, develop some talent. There are a few programs in the area who are consistently doing that but then some other programs come in recruiting hard when they're in the 11th grade and then taking credit for all the players they have gotten into college and throwing around their fake sponsorships.


Your statement is simply put and very well respected. The things you have expressed will occur within the coming year. Logistically it can't happen this year but certainly will take shape next year to include recruiting coaches with the same mentality as you stated...develop talent, hard work, and especially interested in community efforts for cultivating the attributes of youth who can't afford the costs of development at the 9U to 13U level where seasoned clubs pick up the cost.

Appreciate your input.

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Posted 17 March 2011 - 08:10 AM

90 percent of these organizations--this thread included--are doing nothing more than collecting players who already have a little something going on. Very little, if any development; fake political pedigree; meaningless school-season accolades; and somewhat imaginary college prospects.
Nothing much more than a whole lot of general manager chatter, with fake resumes! Few of thes people have actually done anything!

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Posted 17 March 2011 - 08:30 AM

Your statement is simply put and very well respected. The things you have expressed will occur within the coming year. Logistically it can't happen this year but certainly will take shape next year to include recruiting coaches with the same mentality as you stated...develop talent, hard work, and especially interested in community efforts for cultivating the attributes of youth who can't afford the costs of development at the 9U to 13U level where seasoned clubs pick up the cost.

Appreciate your input.


Question: do you buy talent first, or do you develop talent first; or can you do both at the same time assuming you are running a REAL club organization.

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Posted 17 March 2011 - 08:52 AM

Question: do you buy talent first, or do you develop talent first; or can you do both at the same time assuming you are running a REAL club organization.


Ideally you should be able to do both, develop the young talent and build a strong pipeline, while maintaining the flexibility to add older players who are interested in your program. From the outside looking in, I think the FFx Stars have done maybe the best job of this locally, followed by the Shooting Stars. I'm talking historical track record, not relative newbies. Commenters, fill me in on other programs that I've overlooked.

Some other clubs, Team Sol coming immediately to mind, do an excellent job developing younger players, but are just starting to make inroads at the "elite" levels. Other clubs focus more on the older age groups. Not that there's necessarily anything wrong with that. You have to make a business decision as to how you're going to spend limited resources.

The key to any successful organization is strong leadership, direction and general management at the top. I've seen good teams fall apart because of lack of these qualities.




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