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What's wrong with Tillman?


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#1 Softbank Orioles

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Posted 03 May 2012 - 07:41 PM

http://www.baseball-...id=tillma001chr

Progressively worse over the last 4 years and just awful this season.

What happened?

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Posted 03 May 2012 - 08:14 PM

Looked great in the Spring. Velocity was way up. My guess is he can't get his curve over or locate his fastball.
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Posted 04 May 2012 - 04:44 AM

I always liked Tillman's talent but he is so all-over-the-place that I am realizing the main issues appear to be between his ears. I would be willing to bet that if he saw a shrink like John Smoltz did he could turn his career completely around.

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Posted 04 May 2012 - 05:41 AM

He sucks. I've only been saying it the last three years
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Posted 04 May 2012 - 06:29 AM

Look like one of the calvary :rolleyes: fell off the wagon. Guessing Bergie is about to lose his grip any minute now too (if he hasn't already).

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Posted 04 May 2012 - 06:38 AM

Look like one of the calvary :rolleyes: fell off the wagon. Guessing Bergie is about to lose his grip any minute now too (if he hasn't already).


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Posted 04 May 2012 - 07:00 AM

He sucks. I've only been saying it the last three years


Stop being so vague with your opinions - tell us what you really think about Tillman.

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Posted 05 May 2012 - 08:53 AM

Look like one of the calvary :rolleyes: fell off the wagon. Guessing Bergie is about to lose his grip any minute now too (if he hasn't already).


No worries. The O's have several serviceable arms in the middle ranks of the minors who need space cleared for them. Thanks for your post. Everytime I read one of yours it has a natural laxative effect! Like morning coffee.

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Posted 05 May 2012 - 09:30 AM

No worries. The O's have several serviceable arms in the middle ranks of the minors who need space cleared for them. Thanks for your post. Everytime I read one of yours it has a natural laxative effect! Like morning coffee.


Your laxative comment deserves a response. I was talking to my doctor a few weeks ago and she told me that two causes of constipation are coffee and yogurt. I'd always heard the opposite before the doctor let the truth leak out. Anyway, prune juice works best if anyone out there is carrying around too much poop.

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Posted 05 May 2012 - 10:58 AM

The problem with Tillman is that he's not Latino.
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Posted 05 May 2012 - 11:31 AM

The problem with Tillman is that he's not Latino.


Accident of birth - can't hold that against him. However now that you bring ethnicity into the discussion, there's no doubt that Tillman would have been given far fewer opportunities if he were Latino. It seems obvious that future Hall of Famers who happen to be Latino are given far less respect than folks from other ethnicities.

How long would a Latino be kept around if he posted the same stats as Nick J or Mark R?

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Posted 05 May 2012 - 11:38 AM

Accident of birth - can't hold that against him. However now that you bring ethnicity into the discussion, there's no doubt that Tillman would have been given far fewer opportunities if he were Latino. It seems obvious that future Hall of Famers who happen to be Latino are given far less respect than folks from other ethnicities.

How long would a Latino be kept around if he posted the same stats as Nick J or Mark R?


I think you're championing the wrong cause. What about Inuit players? They're given so little respect that there aren't even any in the big leagues.
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Posted 05 May 2012 - 11:58 AM

Look like one of the calvary :rolleyes: fell off the wagon. Guessing Bergie is about to lose his grip any minute now too (if he hasn't already).


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Posted 05 May 2012 - 12:10 PM

I think you're championing the wrong cause. What about Inuit players? They're given so little respect that there aren't even any in the big leagues.


You're right of course but I'm operating under the theory that baseball executives need to be taught to walk before they run. After the anti-Latino bias is eliminated, I might follow your suggestion and start pushing for more eskimos in MLB.

I think I'm making good progress in fighting the anti-Latino bias - why don't you start pushing the eskimo cause and I'll join you later?

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Posted 05 May 2012 - 12:19 PM

http://www.baseball-...id=tillma001chr

Progressively worse over the last 4 years and just awful this season.

What happened?


Some pitchers pan out others dont.....is this a question?

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Posted 05 May 2012 - 12:24 PM

Your laxative comment deserves a response. I was talking to my doctor a few weeks ago and she told me that two causes of constipation are coffee and yogurt. I'd always heard the opposite before the doctor let the truth leak out. Anyway, prune juice works best if anyone out there is carrying around too much poop.


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Posted 05 May 2012 - 12:30 PM

Your laxative comment deserves a response. I was talking to my doctor a few weeks ago and she told me that two causes of constipation are coffee and yogurt. I'd always heard the opposite before the doctor let the truth leak out. Anyway, prune juice works best if anyone out there is carrying around too much poop.


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Posted 05 May 2012 - 01:52 PM

I let a foot long out every day and remark good morning Hector


I'm truly touched by your emotional attachment but unfortunately (for you) I'm taken.

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Posted 05 May 2012 - 01:55 PM

This is why I can't bring myself to put you on ignore...roflao


I'm here to help my fellow posters on matters related to baseball or anything else. If Weenie thinks coffee is a laxative, I need to instruct him otherwise.

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Posted 05 May 2012 - 01:59 PM

I'm truly touched by your emotional attachment but unfortunately (for you) I'm taken.


You do realize what i was comparing you to right Hector?

BTW I dont swing that way fella (unfortunately for you)




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