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O's sign Jair Jurrjens

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Last year... 6.89 ERA, fastball averaged 88.6 mph.

 

Beautiful. Just ****ing beautiful.

 

Who says the O's don't make big moves? :rolleyes:

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$1.5m is probably not too much to risk on a guy with a wonky knee (I wish someone would invest 1.5m on me and my wonky knee). I see one of two possibilities: He makes a full comeback and Dan D Looks like a genius, or Jair Jurrjens banks a cool mil and a half and spends the season hanging out with Brian Roberts.

 

Low risk, potential high reward.

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I like the signing as well, $1.5 mill is a small risk high reward signing for a guy who could come back huge.

 

However this being are only significant signing so far this offseason does not please me at all.

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does anyone remember this?

 

The Orioles expressed interest in Jurrjens last offseason, and he was mentioned as part of a possible trade involving Orioles center fielder Adam Jones, but nothing materialized.

 

http://www.baltimoresun.com/sports/orioles/blog/bal-report-orioles-sign-righthander-starter-jair-jurrjens-20130124,0,2144391.story

 

I don't remember any "Jones to Atl" rumors last winter. I'm glad that didn't materialize.

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does anyone remember this?

 

 

 

http://www.baltimoresun.com/sports/orioles/blog/bal-report-orioles-sign-righthander-starter-jair-jurrjens-20130124,0,2144391.story

 

I don't remember any "Jones to Atl" rumors last winter. I'm glad that didn't materialize.

 

I vaguely remember them, but they probably fell in to the same category as the Machado & Gausmann to Arizona stories this winter.....wishful thinking on the part of Atlanta writers.

 

 

http://atlanta.sbnation.com/atlanta-braves/2012/1/3/2679558/mlb-trade-rumors-atlanta-braves-baltimore-orioles-adam-jones-jair-jurrjens

 

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/994376-atlanta-braves-evaluating-the-latest-adam-jones-trade-proposal

 

(I like how the idiot in the second one says the Braves "freed up some cap space" :rolleyes:)

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I like it. A oft' injured SP that throw his fastball at 85-88. (88 MILES AN HOUR!!!!!!)

 

But it would be sweet if he returned to any bit of his old 2011 self(without the injuries)

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I vaguely remember them, but they probably fell in to the same category as the Machado & Gausmann to Arizona stories this winter.....wishful thinking on the part of Atlanta writers.

 

 

http://atlanta.sbnation.com/atlanta-braves/2012/1/3/2679558/mlb-trade-rumors-atlanta-braves-baltimore-orioles-adam-jones-jair-jurrjens

 

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/994376-atlanta-braves-evaluating-the-latest-adam-jones-trade-proposal

 

(I like how the idiot in the second one says the Braves "freed up some cap space" :rolleyes:)

 

"cap space" that's funny. BR is a rag. I guess it's actually a virtual rag since it's not physically printed.

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most likely a "worthless" move....

 

another Oriole off season with no substanial upgrades..

 

see last year

 

Last off season they added Ayala, Chen, Hammel, Lindstrom, and O'Day. Those guys all made solid contributions to the playoff run.

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As a Braves fan I'll tell you he got in managements dog house. Low risk high reward signing.

FYI- the Braves traded Hanson in the off season. They follow the Dodger motto of it is better to trade a guy a year early than a year later. That is why they tried to trade JJ LAST year.

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tell me that's not it

please

 

I don't think this is their "big" FA signing - but this is a great project pickup, and the perfect opportunity for Peterson and the O's coaching staff.

 

I'm waiting for that Saunders announcement...any day now...

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As a Braves fan I'll tell you he got in managements dog house. Low risk high reward signing.

FYI- the Braves traded Hanson in the off season. They follow the Dodger motto of it is better to trade a guy a year early than a year later. That is why they tried to trade JJ LAST year.

 

Which is why the Braves FO is one of the best.

The only thing I have a problem with them is that they tend to overhype their position players.

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Last off season they added Ayala, Chen, Hammel, Lindstrom, and O'Day. Those guys all made solid contributions to the playoff run.

 

 

should have clarified

 

position players

 

I have no problem with this move hopefully they can catch lightning in a bottle. I just don't see it though

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Living here and being a huge Rays fan we are accustom to these kinds of signings. The Orioles have used some of the Tampa Bay blueprint and guess what, it works. Who wanted Fernando Rodney last year? Some of these low risk chances pay off and if they don't..you haven't invested a jillion dollars in a player whose prime has past. Don't be so hard on the front office/ownership. It appears they are on the right track. Don't think so..look at the Red Sox.

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Which is why the Braves FO is one of the best.

The only thing I have a problem with them is that they tend to overhype their position players.

 

They over hype often to move a guy. If they could move Dan Uggla they would. When they move a guy it rarely bits them. Trading Adam Wainwright for JD Drew was the worst trade in the last 20 years they made. And I am still pi$$ed about trading for Nate McClouth. The only good thing was the players we gave up didn't bit us back.

Remember last year the Braves were offering Jair J (who was coming off a good year) and others to the O's for Adam Jones.

In the last 20 years they have traded for McGriff, Tim Hudson, Jair J., Denny Neagle and Marquis Grissom and gave up very little down the road.

And they let Javy Lopez, Smotlz, Andrew Jones, Gary Sheffield, Bret Boone, Steve Avery go before the bottom fell out on their careers.

 

And Frank Wren who Angelos fired was involved in many of those deals.

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They over hype often to move a guy. If they could move Dan Uggla they would. When they move a guy it rarely bits them. Trading Adam Wainwright for JD Drew was the worst trade in the last 20 years they made. And I am still pi$$ed about trading for Nate McClouth. The only good thing was the players we gave up didn't bit us back.

Remember last year the Braves were offering Jair J (who was coming off a good year) and others to the O's for Adam Jones.

In the last 20 years they have traded for McGriff, Tim Hudson, Jair J., Denny Neagle and Marquis Grissom and gave up very little down the road.

And they let Javy Lopez, Smotlz, Andrew Jones, Gary Sheffield, Bret Boone, Steve Avery go before the bottom fell out on their careers.

 

And Frank Wren who Angelos fired was involved in many of those deals.

 

 

precisely...and I have a problem with that. It also affects how they perform in award voting.

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I've been thinking about this signing, and I wonder if the O's shouldn't have offered 2 yrs/$2M. if he bounces back, and it's reasonable to think he will, given his age and the impact Rick Peterson has on rehab pitchers. I have no doubt he would have taken the extra $500K and 2nd year. and if he's a bust, it still only cost $2M. at the very least, I would have added an option for a 2nd year.

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I've been thinking about this signing, and I wonder if the O's shouldn't have offered 2 yrs/$2M. if he bounces back, and it's reasonable to think he will, given his age and the impact Rick Peterson has on rehab pitchers. I have no doubt he would have taken the extra $500K and 2nd year. and if he's a bust, it still only cost $2M. at the very least, I would have added an option for a 2nd year.

 

If I'm Jurrjens I don't want a multi year deal. Go out and prove yourself on a one year deal and cash in on free agency next year.

 

As long as his elbow is attached he'll be able to get minor league deals for the next 5 years because of what he once was. Look at Erik Bedard.

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