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Come on Duquette.... we need pitching help NOW


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#1 Rob

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Posted 09 June 2013 - 08:54 AM

The Orioles are struggling. Especially the pitching. You can't expect these hitters to keep carrying the team. Since May 11, the O's are 12-14. But the scary part is, the runs they are allowing:

The scores in the last 14 losses (since May 11):

8-5
3-2
8-4
12-10
10-6
3-1
6-4
12-6
6-5
9-3
10-3
11-7
2-1
8-0


9 of those 14 losses, they allowed 8 runs or more, including 5 games in which they allowed 10 runs or more. :eek:

6 of those losses, the offense scored 5 runs or more. :(

#2 Buford

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Posted 09 June 2013 - 09:34 AM

Good pitching beats good hitting every time..Tampa Bay has it, the O's don't.

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Posted 09 June 2013 - 09:48 AM

Outscored 108-57 in those losses. Yikes. :eek: :(

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Posted 09 June 2013 - 09:52 AM

[b]
Starters



Player      GS   W-L    ERA

---------------------------

Hammel      13   7-4   5.18

Tillman     12   5-2   3.97

Gonzalez    10   3-2   4.05

Chen         8   3-3   3.04

Garcia       7   2-3   4.70

Arrieta      4   1-1   6.63

Gausman      4   0-3   8.84

Jurrjens     1   0-0   7.20

Stinson      1   0-0   7.94

Britton      1   0-1   9.00

Johnson      1   0-1  13.50

---------------------------

Totals      62  21-20  4.92[/b]


#5 Far from home

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Posted 09 June 2013 - 10:30 AM

Who is he going to trade for?
Who do the O's have?

#6 jamesdean

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Posted 09 June 2013 - 10:37 AM

[b]

Starters

Player      GS   W-L    ERA
---------------------------
Hammel      13   7-4   5.18
Tillman     12   5-2   3.97
Gonzalez    10   3-2   4.05
Chen         8   3-3   3.04
Garcia       7   2-3   4.70
Arrieta      4   1-1   6.63
Gausman      4   0-3   8.84
Jurrjens     1   0-0   7.20
Stinson      1   0-0   7.94
Britton      1   0-1   9.00
Johnson      1   0-1  13.50
---------------------------
Totals      62  21-20  4.92[/b]


Getting Chen back should help but other than that, there's not much you can do at this point. Hammel's been a major disappointment and the bullpen hasn't been lights out like last year. Another problem the Orioles never seem to figure out is getting pitchers on this team that get hitters to hit ground balls. Playing in the softball dimensions of Camden Yards, it's death to fly ball pitchers and the Orioles always seem to have plenty of them. They give up a ton of homeruns and this year is no different. Having the best defense in the American League proves nothing if the balls are winding up in the cheap seats. Too many pitches, too many homeruns. It's been a killer for several years.

#7 larsanderson

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Posted 09 June 2013 - 11:00 AM

What's different since DD looked at the roster 6 months ago and decided not to make significant adjustments to last years 90+ win team?
Shouldn't Matusz and Hobgood have developed into top of the rotation starters by now?

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Posted 09 June 2013 - 01:09 PM

Who is he going to trade for?
Who do the O's have?


This is where I'm at. Everyone knows they need pitching help. Are the teams looking to deal really going to deal now or will they wait until the deadline nears and hope they can bid the price up?

#9 johnpolitics

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Posted 09 June 2013 - 09:30 PM

Frankly Dan Uggula would help more. Plus you have to have something to trade? Want to give up Bundy? I remember last year people wanted to trade Manny M. for pitching help.

#10 Morgan208

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Posted 09 June 2013 - 09:49 PM

garza's contract is up, it wouldn't take a bundy to get him from the cubbie's.

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Posted 09 June 2013 - 09:59 PM

Who is he going to trade for?
Who do the O's have?


Hobgood

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Posted 10 June 2013 - 05:47 AM

Good pitching beats good hitting every time..Tampa Bay has it, the O's don't.


Your avatar was better last year.

#13 weird-O

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Posted 10 June 2013 - 09:39 AM

Hobgood


you yankee fans repeatedly bring him up. I don't think it's going to work out for him. you guys may need to just accept that he isn't going to be an impact pitcher and move on.

I know O's fans have.

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Posted 10 June 2013 - 09:43 AM

Who is he going to trade for?
Who do the O's have?


I doubt any team at this point is giving up an impact pitcher for anything we have. Even Gausman may not be in demand anymore with how he's performed

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Posted 10 June 2013 - 09:46 AM

garza's contract is up, it wouldn't take a bundy to get him from the cubbie's.


Who do you want to trade for him that The Cubs will take?

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Posted 10 June 2013 - 09:48 AM

I doubt any team at this point is giving up an impact pitcher for anything we have. Even Gausman may not be in demand anymore with how he's performed


excluding Bundy, I don't know of any O's prospects who are in demend.

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Posted 10 June 2013 - 11:54 AM

Garcia pitching over Jurrjens is stupid. I don't care about MiLB numbers too much. Garcia is washed up, he's old and physically has a hard time doing it anymore. Jurrjens was one pitch away from turning in a completely acceptable start. Plus he's 27, injury problem aside.

Britton has been doing OK this year in the minors, and heck I wouldn't mind seeing Matusz get two starts just to see where he's at.

Anything is better than wasting starts on an old guy that has no future with the team.

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Posted 10 June 2013 - 12:35 PM

Garcia pitching over Jurrjens is stupid. I don't care about MiLB numbers too much. Garcia is washed up, he's old and physically has a hard time doing it anymore. Jurrjens was one pitch away from turning in a completely acceptable start. Plus he's 27, injury problem aside.

Britton has been doing OK this year in the minors, and heck I wouldn't mind seeing Matusz get two starts just to see where he's at.

Anything is better than wasting starts on an old guy that has no future with the team.


I agree with you about Jurrgens over Garcia. looking at both pitchers today, rather than career accomplishments, Jurrgens seem more likely to give the team a better performance, more often.

I wouldn't give Matusz a start. he hasn't proven he can routinely go 1 inning without getting roughed up. he is a 1-2 batter, specialty pitcher. nothing more.

the guy couldn't shut down the bottom of the TB batting order. and they weren't even the regular 7-8-9 guys, they were light hitting defensive replacements. he's not a starting pitcher.

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Posted 10 June 2013 - 01:08 PM

It's ironic that this thread exists when the whole offseason I read so many posts here about how wonderful our pitching depth was :(

#20 Rob

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Posted 10 June 2013 - 01:22 PM

I hear ya ken. Dempsey said this Oriole team had the best bullpen he's ever seen. LOL




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