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Since July 1st -- AL East

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Update:

 

Since July 1st:

 

Tampa Bay (30-17)

Boston (28-21)

NY Yankees (27-23)

Baltimore (23-24)

Toronto (18-33)

Hope I am wrong but looks like O's will probably end up in 4th place as the Yankees have most of their offensive weapons back.

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Why since July 1st? O's are 11-11 in August while BoSox are only 13-11 after winning three straight. Rays are down too. The only hot team lately has been the Yankees.

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Why since July 1st? O's are 11-11 in August while BoSox are only 13-11 after winning three straight. Rays are down too 10-12 after losing three straight. The only hot team lately has been the Yankees. None of the wild card contenders are setting the world on fire either. I guess after many years of losses, a culture of pessimism now infects the fan base. Yes, it has been frustrating but we have seen a lot of great baseball and it is almost Septemebr and we are still in it.

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Yes, it has been frustrating but we have seen a lot of great baseball and it is almost Septemebr and we are still in it.

 

Couldn't have said it better myself

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Why since July 1st? O's are 11-11 in August while BoSox are only 13-11 after winning three straight. Rays are down too 10-12 after losing three straight. The only hot team lately has been the Yankees. None of the wild card contenders are setting the world on fire either. I guess after many years of losses, a culture of pessimism now infects the fan base. Yes, it has been frustrating but we have seen a lot of great baseball and it is almost Septemebr and we are still in it.

 

We can only hope so.

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While we have to recognize they have not looked like a team of destiny like they did last year at this time, it is absolutely not too late for them to get hot. The turnaround in their one-run-game record compared to 2012 is dramatic and has been well documented, but it wouldn't require too many unexpected clutch performances and/or lucky bounces to reverse that trend. And I agree with the above opinion; it is fun to still be playing meaningful games right now. They're a pretty darn good team, and I think they still have a chance at the playoffs.

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Tampa Bay (23-12)

Boston (22-15)

NY Yankees (19-18)

BALTIMORE (18-19)

Toronto (14-24)

 

What is the O's record since the black cloud Brian Roberts came back?

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Why since July 1st? O's are 11-11 in August while BoSox are only 13-11 after winning three straight. Rays are down too. The only hot team lately has been the Yankees.

 

I don't see much of a difference between 11-11 and 23-24. Either way, very tough to gain ground playing .500.

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The Orioles are currently 10 over. They first went 10 over on June 14. They peaked at 14 over on July 22. They have been no worse than 7 over during that span. It sure is better than 1998-2011.

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While we have to recognize they have not looked like a team of destiny like they did last year at this time, it is absolutely not too late for them to get hot. The turnaround in their one-run-game record compared to 2012 is dramatic and has been well documented, but it wouldn't require too many unexpected clutch performances and/or lucky bounces to reverse that trend. And I agree with the above opinion; it is fun to still be playing meaningful games right now. They're a pretty darn good team, and I think they still have a chance at the playoffs.

 

all true, but it's a long shot at best now. sure. any team can suddenly rattle off 10 straight wins. Shoot...the Astros almost did that this year. but the likelihood of the season is, they aren't going to do that.

 

I'll watch, and root for them like I always do, but my expectation of a playoff game in Baltimore just died tonight.

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The only thing that has changed since the O's were in contention is the presence of Brian Roberts in the lineup. Has he ever played for a winning team? No matter how you slice it, he may be a Jonice and time to rid one of a bad thing.

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The only thing that has changed since the O's were in contention is the presence of Brian Roberts in the lineup. Has he ever played for a winning team? No matter how you slice it, he may be a Jonice and time to rid one of a bad thing.
They probably would have been worse without BRob in the line up. The main problem is the pitching, not BRob.

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BTW, The Orioles and A's were in the Wild Card lead by 3 games on July 1st. Here are the records of the rest of the AL since July 1st:

 

Detroit (42-24)

Boston (41-25)

Oakland (39-26)

Kansas City (39-29)

Tampa Bay (37-27)

NY Yankees (36-31)

Cleveland (35-30)

Texas (33-32)

BALTIMORE (31-34)

LA Angels (31-34)

Seattle (30-35)

Toronto (27-39)

Minnesota (27-40)

Chicago WS (26-42)

Houston (21-43)

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While we have to recognize they have not looked like a team of destiny like they did last year at this time, it is absolutely not too late for them to get hot. The turnaround in their one-run-game record compared to 2012 is dramatic and has been well documented, but it wouldn't require too many unexpected clutch performances and/or lucky bounces to reverse that trend. And I agree with the above opinion; it is fun to still be playing meaningful games right now. They're a pretty darn good team, and I think they still have a chance at the playoffs.

 

46-46 since June 1 does little to instill any confidence in the ballclub getting the chance to play a 163rd game. Chance ? How 'bout a complete reversal of fortune by saying that with 1 more game in Canada, then 3 in Beantown followed by 4 at the Trop, the team suddenly re-discovers its magic. by closing out the season going 12-2 to maybe, just maybe, makeWC2 at 90-72. Steve, you give them way too much credit.

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I'm just hoping they don't finish 6-8. If they finish with 84 wins, we'll never hear the end of it. They can finish 5-9 or worse or 7-7 or better, but please, please, please, not 6-8.

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I'm just hoping they don't finish 6-8. If they finish with 84 wins, we'll never hear the end of it. They can finish 5-9 or worse or 7-7 or better, but please, please, please, not 6-8.

 

I had that thought the other day. Please win 85! (Although that may be close enough to awaken him.)

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But you wouldn't. Right?

 

Never even crossed my mind.

 

BTW - did you see that a certain borderline possible Hall of Famer finally decided to officially retire? And I'm not talking about Todd Helton.

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