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#1 Ravens2006

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Posted 10 September 2013 - 02:09 PM

So in last year's BAL @ DEN playoff game, Moore took all the heat for letting Jacoby Jones get behind him. Ravens safety play Thursday night was just as hideous overall.

Thursday night, on the Thomas 70+ yard TD that pretty much ended any remote hope of a historic comeback... :) the Ravens had 3 safeties on the field. Elam started on the line, Huff was off a (very) little bit playing coverage, and Ihedigbo was just a little farther back on the other side. Within a couple seconds of the snap, there were THREE Broncos behind ALL THREE Ravens safeties. One of the three Broncos who quickly got behind the secondary, along with Thomas and some other receiver, was an offensive lineman.

The Ravens secondary was frequently caught with their safeties completely out of the equation Thursday night. They weren't playing deep enough against Peyton. And there was ZERO press coverage at the line. The second half became a 7-on-7 drill for Manning. Watch Jimmy Smith on some of the Broncos big plays too... indecisive and slow in recovering.

Cary Williams I thought got way too much heat here. There were times he got abused, but there were a lot of times where he played quality, tight, physical coverage too. Should Pees care to direct a better showing against top tier QBs the rest of the season, they're going to need to revert to a lot of contact at the line and not allowing receivers to run like it's a no contact passing camp. CBs and LBs need to jam more. Safeties need to be just that, safeties. Ed Reed built a HoF career more from playing 20 yards off the line, influencing routes, and taking advantage of mistakes. Even when he COULD hit, it wasn't his support in the box that built his legacy.

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Posted 10 September 2013 - 06:57 PM

So in last year's BAL @ DEN playoff game, Moore took all the heat for letting Jacoby Jones get behind him. Ravens safety play Thursday night was just as hideous overall.

Thursday night, on the Thomas 70+ yard TD that pretty much ended any remote hope of a historic comeback... :) the Ravens had 3 safeties on the field. Elam started on the line, Huff was off a (very) little bit playing coverage, and Ihedigbo was just a little farther back on the other side. Within a couple seconds of the snap, there were THREE Broncos behind ALL THREE Ravens safeties. One of the three Broncos who quickly got behind the secondary, along with Thomas and some other receiver, was an offensive lineman.

The Ravens secondary was frequently caught with their safeties completely out of the equation Thursday night. They weren't playing deep enough against Peyton. And there was ZERO press coverage at the line. The second half became a 7-on-7 drill for Manning. Watch Jimmy Smith on some of the Broncos big plays too... indecisive and slow in recovering.

Cary Williams I thought got way too much heat here. There were times he got abused, but there were a lot of times where he played quality, tight, physical coverage too. Should Pees care to direct a better showing against top tier QBs the rest of the season, they're going to need to revert to a lot of contact at the line and not allowing receivers to run like it's a no contact passing camp. CBs and LBs need to jam more. Safeties need to be just that, safeties. Ed Reed built a HoF career more from playing 20 yards off the line, influencing routes, and taking advantage of mistakes. Even when he COULD hit, it wasn't his support in the box that built his legacy.


You can count me as one who believes the Ravens secondary is not as good as people believe. I think the way they are going to have to deal with that is to disguise coverages and devise schemes that bring pressure from unexpected areas. Much the same way **** Lebeau has covered up a Steelers secondary that has not been all that good for years. On Thursday, they did none of that. Peyton Manning knew what he was getting as soon as he got to the line of scrimmage. In the past, Ray Lewis and Ed Reed might have changed that during the game. Now, it is up to Pees to recognize and fix the problem.

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Posted 10 September 2013 - 07:01 PM

You can count me as one who believes the Ravens secondary is not as good as people believe. I think the way they are going to have to deal with that is to disguise coverages and devise schemes that bring pressure from unexpected areas. Much the same way **** Lebeau has covered up a Steelers secondary that has not been all that good for years. On Thursday, they did none of that. Peyton Manning knew what he was getting as soon as he got to the line of scrimmage. In the past, Ray Lewis and Ed Reed might have changed that during the game. Now, it is up to Pees to recognize and fix the problem.

Ray Lewis himself already confirmed this. He said the D needed to disguise and change things up but didn't. Checkers vs Chess is how he phrased it. (Ravens = checkers; Broncos = chess). The Ravens were clearly out played and out coached in the second half. The Broncos made the necessary adjustments; the Ravens did not. And frankly, that's not a new problem. In fact, it's something that's plagued the Ravens during the Harbaugh era. They've rarely played 4 full quarters of football. Several times they've played a great first half, only to then come out and get out coached. That clearly happened against Denver.

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Posted 11 September 2013 - 04:04 PM

Big difference is the Bronco's lost because of their safety in a playoff game.




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