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  1. 1. Who wins in the Ravens@Steelers game?


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I say the Ravens win. But only because the Steelers, at this point in time, appear to be worse than the Ravens. And I think the Ravens will be (or at least should be) highly motivated.

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I say the Ravens win. But only because the Steelers, at this point in time, appear to be worse than the Ravens. And I think the Ravens will be (or at least should be) highly motivated.

 

I don't know that the Steelers are that much worse than the Ravens.  Statistically, the Steelers are better than the Ravens in a lot of categories.  When I look at the teams I see the Steelers as a team with a terrible offensive line, but the Ravens O-line is no better.  I see two QB's capable of making big plays, but both have been very inconsistent this year.  The Steelers have struggled to run the ball, but the Ravens are dead last in the league in rushing.  The Steelers have a slight edge in receivers.  On defense the Ravens pressure is clearly better than the Steelers, but in the secondary they are both about as equally bad.  I think the Ravens special teams are better on whole than the Steelers, but the Raven's punting game has been somewhat miserable so far.  Both offensive coordinators are liabilities.  As for motivation, this game is effectively the Steeler's season.  With Cincy playing in Detroit, they could very well lose.  Cleveland will likely lose in Green Bay.  If the Steelers beat the Ravens, they are right there in the division despite a disasterous 0-4 start.  A loss pretty much buries them.  I picked the Ravens in the office pool only because during the Harbuagh era they rarely follow up a loss with a bad game, but I don't have a lot of confidence in that pick.  Pittsburgh is at home, and if they have any hope of salvaging their season they need to win.  A loss pretty much leaves them playing for next year as the North is probably only going to be represented by the division winner this year. 

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IIRC, the Steelers went out and got one of the worst LTs in the league. They then had to put him on IR. The Ravens went out and got Monroe. And the Steelers lost Pouncey at the start of the year, so their O-line might possibly be worse than the Ravens. So that right there equates to advantage Ravens IMO. Also, I think the Ravens secondary is better, and the front 7 of the D is better, owing in part to the acquisitions made in the offseason, the year Suggs is having, and the injuries to the Steelers. Also, the Steelers lost a lot of speed with Wallace going to the 'Fins, and the Ravens are getting players back who can definitely burn the Steelers secondary.

 

When it's all said and done, I imagine it's going to be a typical ugly, anyone can win it type of proposition. I just think the Steelers are in really bad shape this year. But it could definitely go either way. The Ravens might be able to turn this around if/when Harbaugh gets on Castillo and straightens out the O-line as much as it can be straightened out with Gradkowski.

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I want to say Ravens, because the Steelers are bad this year. But the Ravens haven't impressed me this year. Rothy is mobile enough to beat our defense. Oh and the Steelers are at home in that crazy stadium that makes the kicking game difficult

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IIRC, the Steelers went out and got one of the worst LTs in the league. They then had to put him on IR. The Ravens went out and got Monroe. And the Steelers lost Pouncey at the start of the year, so their O-line might possibly be worse than the Ravens. So that right there equates to advantage Ravens IMO. Also, I think the Ravens secondary is better, and the front 7 of the D is better, owing in part to the acquisitions made in the offseason, the year Suggs is having, and the injuries to the Steelers. Also, the Steelers lost a lot of speed with Wallace going to the 'Fins, and the Ravens are getting players back who can definitely burn the Steelers secondary.

 

When it's all said and done, I imagine it's going to be a typical ugly, anyone can win it type of proposition. I just think the Steelers are in really bad shape this year. But it could definitely go either way. The Ravens might be able to turn this around if/when Harbaugh gets on Castillo and straightens out the O-line as much as it can be straightened out with Gradkowski.

 

I tend to agree with you on the defensive front seven, not so much about the secondary.  I see guys wide open in the Ravens secondary every week.  They made  Buffalo's EJ Manuel look like a veteran QB.  They almost let Ryan Tannehill pass the Dolphins to a come from behind win.  If it wasn't for the pressure in the Miami game, that game might also have been a loss.  Webb has been inconsistent and the rest have just been flat out bad. The secondary lost any chance the Ravens had of beating Green Bay last week.  Pittsburgh is giving up an average of 196 yards per game while Baltimore averages 254.  The Ravens have 22 sacks to Pittsburgh's 7.  Given the lack of pressure Pittsburgh is able to generate, I think their secondary has done a better job than the Ravens.  Not that I think Pittsburgh has a secondary you can call good, just that I think the Raven's secondary is that bad.  If the pressure isn't there, somebody will be open. 

 

But I do agree that it will likely be another typical Ravens/Steelers game.  The Ravens have struggled on the road, and Pittsburgh has struggled to look good at all.  Personally, I think the key to the game is whether or not the Ravens can run the ball.  Pittsburgh's defense hasn't been the same tough D against the run that they have been in the past.  If the Raven's can run they can win.  If they run the ball the way they have so far this year, I think Pittsburgh will make just enough plays against the Baltimore secondary to squeak out a win. 

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I tend to agree with you on the defensive front seven, not so much about the secondary.  I see guys wide open in the Ravens secondary every week.  They made  Buffalo's EJ Manuel look like a veteran QB.  They almost let Ryan Tannehill pass the Dolphins to a come from behind win.  If it wasn't for the pressure in the Miami game, that game might also have been a loss.  Webb has been inconsistent and the rest have just been flat out bad. The secondary lost any chance the Ravens had of beating Green Bay last week.  Pittsburgh is giving up an average of 196 yards per game while Baltimore averages 254.  The Ravens have 22 sacks to Pittsburgh's 7.  Given the lack of pressure Pittsburgh is able to generate, I think their secondary has done a better job than the Ravens.  Not that I think Pittsburgh has a secondary you can call good, just that I think the Raven's secondary is that bad.  If the pressure isn't there, somebody will be open. 

 

But I do agree that it will likely be another typical Ravens/Steelers game.  The Ravens have struggled on the road, and Pittsburgh has struggled to look good at all.  Personally, I think the key to the game is whether or not the Ravens can run the ball.  Pittsburgh's defense hasn't been the same tough D against the run that they have been in the past.  If the Raven's can run they can win.  If they run the ball the way they have so far this year, I think Pittsburgh will make just enough plays against the Baltimore secondary to squeak out a win. 

You make good points, as usual. However, I don't think Webbie has been all that inconsistent. What I think is that the usual "we're having communication problems" (the stock answer, along with "we'll have to look at the tape before we can comment any further") is once again raising its ugly head this year. And maybe, because of the personnel turnover, it's raising its ugly head more often and uglier than in the past. But I've seen things progress from game to game, and I think it will, or at least should, be evident against the Steelers. But with this team, as it was last year, things are always such a crap shoot it's impossible to really predict how they'll play. I do know that they tend to get up for Pittsburgh, and they know that team's tendencies probably better than any other team. So here's hoping for the best for the Ravens and their fans.

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Depends on the pass defense.  The Steelers are rated 30th in running and the Ravens are rated 31st.   Unless there is a drastic change it will be up to the quarterbacks.

 

Both can put together big games.

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I said at the start of the season that by the bye week the Ravens would most likely be 3-4 or 4-3. Right on track as far as that goes.

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I want to say Ravens, because the Steelers are bad this year. But the Ravens haven't impressed me this year. Rothy is mobile enough to beat our defense. Oh and the Steelers are at home in that crazy stadium that makes the kicking game difficult

I had a feeling :(

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