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#1 afan

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Posted 03 November 2013 - 10:20 PM

Looking back at all the loses when we see the press conference after the game. The same answers are coming out. Right now we are not good enough is one answer I hate to hear. Time for someone to step up and ask are we really this bad.......http://www.baltimore...06-c7faf3f6f1e0



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Posted 03 November 2013 - 10:58 PM

Looking back at all the loses when we see the press conference after the game. The same answers are coming out. Right now we are not good enough is one answer I hate to hear. Time for someone to step up and ask are we really this bad.......http://www.baltimore...06-c7faf3f6f1e0

 

Actually they are being honest.  As much as the fans don't want to hear it, the simple fact is that this team is not that good.  They are not a bottom team, but they are not a real playoff contender either.  Despite everyone here who seemed to think this team would somehow be better, the truth lies in the results.  They have a terrible OL, and a below average secondary.   The personell on the field is simply not good enough to win the games they are losing.  Pittsburgh is a team that is not very good at all.  Gave up 55 points today, and yet the Ravens could only get 16 against them, struggled to even get a TD, and couldn't stop them when the game was tied.  Simply adds up to a team that is just not all that good. 


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Posted 04 November 2013 - 07:54 AM

Actually they are being honest.  As much as the fans don't want to hear it, the simple fact is that this team is not that good.  They are not a bottom team, but they are not a real playoff contender either.  Despite everyone here who seemed to think this team would somehow be better, the truth lies in the results.  They have a terrible OL, and a below average secondary.   The personell on the field is simply not good enough to win the games they are losing.  Pittsburgh is a team that is not very good at all.  Gave up 55 points today, and yet the Ravens could only get 16 against them, struggled to even get a TD, and couldn't stop them when the game was tied.  Simply adds up to a team that is just not all that good. 

But the question is: WHY they aren't very good? And the answer is: This coaching staff just isn't very good. Games are being lost because of poor coaching decisions up and down the line. So why isn't Harbaugh standing up in front of the press saying that? Because he's the biggest part of the problem. He couldn't handle strong locker room personalities. His great friend, Juan Castillo, the person Harbaugh calls one of the greatest teachers he's ever seen, continues week after week to destroy the O-line. And to a similar but lesser degree, Rosburg, Caldwell, and Pees all continue to chip away at the rest of the team. So to just get up and say: "We need to look at the film and fix what needs to be fixed" is so totally unacceptable there aren't even words to describe it.



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Posted 04 November 2013 - 08:18 AM

What would you like to hear them say?  You want them to say something insulting to the players?  To the coaches?  To themselves?  Do we think it would help anything if Flacco slammed his O-line?  Or somebody slammed the play-calling?  Or questioned a specific player's efforts / abilities?  You do realize that whenever a player calls out a coach, or a coach insults a player, the next logical step are the stories about "losing the locker room".  So when they do exactly what some want them to, to quench some strange pointless desire, it's then turned around anyway...

 

How would that help the team perform better?

 

Do you really think they go back in to the practice facility and say, "Well, we just need to do better" and that's it?  Do we really think that only what is said in front of a microphone captures EVERYTHING going on in the organization?

 

When Harbaugh talks about his players, it's ALWAYS in positive terms.  He does the same re: his coaches.  It's not just coaches.  It's not just coaches he's worked with before.  It's not just players.  It's the whole organization.  In front of the microphone.  That's a philosophy he follows and it will never change.  Because he thinks there's absolutely zero value in saying things to the media that are critical of those he needs to have succeed.

 

Think back to the Chris McAlister era when John took over in '08.  John HATED McAlister and everything about how he carried himself.  He jaked it in practices, he was one of the largest pot-heads ever to wear the uniform (Bam Morris couldn't keep up with him).  :)  And his legs had stripped him of most of his cover ability.  When John basically fired him in Miami that year... he never said anything derogatory about him to the media.  He stuck to his "Chris is a good player that we think can help us" message.  All the meanwhile... behind the scenes... Harbaugh was booking McAlister's travel arrangements to get him out of town.


Edited by Ravens2006, 04 November 2013 - 08:27 AM.

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Posted 04 November 2013 - 08:22 AM

But the question is: WHY they aren't very good? And the answer is: This coaching staff just isn't very good.

That is PART of the answer. The other part is because the players aren't very good. The center is terrible, Shipley isn't very good, and the rest of the Oline is worse than last year. Even Yanda. Rice has lost a step and he is too small to overcome that loss. The secondary has been pretty bad and the wide receiver position is undermanned. Flacco has been inconsistent. Do we even need to mention Dickson? Not all of that is on the coaches. Some is on the FO and much is on the players too.


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Posted 04 November 2013 - 09:14 AM

That is PART of the answer. The other part is because the players aren't very good. The center is terrible, Shipley isn't very good, and the rest of the Oline is worse than last year. Even Yanda. Rice has lost a step and he is too small to overcome that loss. The secondary has been pretty bad and the wide receiver position is undermanned. Flacco has been inconsistent. Do we even need to mention Dickson? Not all of that is on the coaches. Some is on the FO and much is on the players too.

But that doesn't really get to the heart of the matter. The Ravens HAVE other alternatives! They HAVE Furst on the PS. Why is Dickson EVEN ON THE TEAM? It's a COACHING decision. The same with Juice. The same with WHY the O-line is SO BAD. It's the damn ZBS that HARBAUGH insists should be used. The Ravens have lost CLOSE GAMES because of STUPID COACHING decisions. The BIGGER issue is the coaching, NOT the personnel. (Except maybe for center; that was a huge mistake heading into the season. But there were points along the way to replace Gradkowski. But the Ravens passed. Coaching/FO decision there.)


Edited by OriginalColtsFan, 04 November 2013 - 09:15 AM.


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Posted 04 November 2013 - 09:21 AM

Yes, you do have to put some accountability on the players for sure.  But it's the coaches responsibility to change things in order to minimize those weaknesses.  Why?  Because we're 8 games into the season and wholesale changes are NOT coming any time soon.  So, do you just look at the roster and say, "oh well, it is what it is.  We'll figure things out next off season?"  Because, to me, that's exactly what I'm hearing every week in the usual Harbaugh, veiled responses.  I hold them completely responsible for allowing players to be put in a position to fail and not succeed.  There is zero creativity going on with this offense...NONE!  Right now, they're a defense's wet dream.  Cincinnati is probably foaming at the mouth waiting to get on the field this Sunday.  And then get their chance soon enough.



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Posted 04 November 2013 - 09:26 AM

What do you suggest the coaches do? The players have to execute and they don't appear to be doing so or just don't have the talent to do so. Although I have to send this little message to Caldwell, FLACCO IS NOT PEYTON


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Posted 04 November 2013 - 09:42 AM

What do you suggest the coaches do? The players have to execute and they don't appear to be doing so or just don't have the talent to do so. Although I have to send this little message to Caldwell, FLACCO IS NOT PEYTON

What they're trying to execute is not playing to their strengths, if they have any.  They obviously are abysmal in zone blocking and can't hold their blocks for any great length of time for Flacco to set up, scan the field, and throw deeper patterns.  So, you ask yourself, "if that's the problem, what can I do to deviate from that and move the ball?"  I'm hardly an expert in offensive play calling but it seems pretty obvious to me what the solution is and it sure as hell isn't what we're looking at every Sunday.



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Posted 04 November 2013 - 09:47 AM

What do you suggest the coaches do? The players have to execute and they don't appear to be doing so or just don't have the talent to do so. Although I have to send this little message to Caldwell, FLACCO IS NOT PEYTON

LOL. Do you even watch any football games? Do you NOT see other teams running picks/rubs to increase natural separation for their receivers, along with QUICK developing plays that get D's on their heels to help compensate for weaknesses that all teams have? Do you NOT watch the Ravens insanely running on first down OVER AND OVER AND OVER again to the tune of 17 carries for 28 yards?!! Do you NOT see how the ZBS is killing this team, yet the coaching staff insists on running it ANYWAY? Do you NOT see other teams taking better advantage of their rookie personnel compared to the Ravens and Harbaugh and his "rookie-phobia/no rookie is going to come in here and get handed a job without proving first he deserves it" mentality? Do you just like to post silly little comments over and over again that display an almost total lack of knowledge of what's happening on a football field?


Edited by OriginalColtsFan, 04 November 2013 - 09:50 AM.


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Posted 05 November 2013 - 04:42 AM

What do you suggest the coaches do? The players have to execute and they don't appear to be doing so or just don't have the talent to do so. Although I have to send this little message to Caldwell, FLACCO IS NOT PEYTON

"The players have to execute and they don't appear to be doing so or just don't have the talent to do so." (1) every player has the talent to execute or they wouldn't be in the NFL. (2) if they consistently don't appear to be doing so, it's because of flawed leadership/coaching. your sending a little message to caldwell proves it.


Edited by gordon89, 05 November 2013 - 04:43 AM.


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Posted 05 November 2013 - 06:13 PM

Actually they are being honest.  As much as the fans don't want to hear it, the simple fact is that this team is not that good.  They are not a bottom team, but they are not a real playoff contender either.  Despite everyone here who seemed to think this team would somehow be better, the truth lies in the results.  They have a terrible OL, and a below average secondary.   The personell on the field is simply not good enough to win the games they are losing.  Pittsburgh is a team that is not very good at all.  Gave up 55 points today, and yet the Ravens could only get 16 against them, struggled to even get a TD, and couldn't stop them when the game was tied.  Simply adds up to a team that is just not all that good.


Well, can't say they didn't tell you so. They said they didn't want to make the same mistake as after the last Super Bowl...they didn't
want to make the playoff and they didn't want to win a playoff game. Why is anyone surprised?

Funny thing is they said they didn't want to do it and wind up in cap hell...look down the pike...w flaco, gnats, well and yanda's contract....they are already in cap hell.

If biscotti would just let Ozzie do his job........

The zone blocking sceme is a complete disaster....watch Gradkowski...he doesn't even make contact with the other team on half the plays. It's unreal. It unbelievable they are sticking with it. They get absolutely nobody on the line to the second level. Can't blame rice...pierce is as ineffective.




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