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Maddux...only 70 percent say 1st ballot HoF

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It's an internet poll. What do you expect?

 

I'm sure Maddux will get in this year. Clemens should get in this year too...

 

I hope not - Clemens, based on his drug use, should not be a 1st ballot.

 

Yes, Clemens' numbers and resume are HoF, but you can't ignore the connections.

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I hope not - Clemens, based on his drug use, should not be a 1st ballot.

 

Yes, Clemens' numbers and resume are HoF, but you can't ignore the connections.

 

Clemens was on the ballot last year. This year would be his second chance. 

 

It would be insane for guys like Bonds and Clemens to not get voted in eventually. 

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Clemens was on the ballot last year. This year would be his second chance. 

 

It would be insane for guys like Bonds and Clemens to not get voted in eventually. 

 

Never underestimate the bitter, delusional HOF voters.  They need to protect the golden era of baseball (amphetamines, segregation, racism) from steroids.

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Never underestimate the bitter, delusional HOF voters.  They need to protect the golden era of baseball (amphetamines, segregation, racism) from steroids.

 

Different vices for different eras...

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Clemens was on the ballot last year. This year would be his second chance.

 

It would be insane for guys like Bonds and Clemens to not get voted in eventually.

Agree on Clemens, do not agree on Bonds.

Bonds was a pock mark on the game. His career, numbers-wise, was one of the best ever...but there is a clear demarcation from pre-steroid and post-steroid production.

 

Clemens, otoh, had a larger block of his career that doesn't seem attributable to PED usage, so there is a better chance that he will be in 3-5 years into his eligibility.

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The poll shows a lack of knowledge by internet geeks who live in mama's basement, eating mayonaise sandwichs and listening to John Couger Mellencamp records. Also show that most baseball fans have no understanding of the art of pitching.

Madduz was an artist on the mound. First ballot easy. Glavine's union activities may keep out for a year.

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Hey now, John Mellencamp has some good songs.

It is a Chris Rock joke. I left out a line. google it.

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Agree on Clemens, do not agree on Bonds.

Bonds was a pock mark on the game. His career, numbers-wise, was one of the best ever...but there is a clear demarcation from pre-steroid and post-steroid production.

 

Clemens, otoh, had a larger block of his career that doesn't seem attributable to PED usage, so there is a better chance that he will be in 3-5 years into his eligibility.

 

It's impossible to know exactly which players used PED's, when they used them, or precisely how much their stats were helped by the use of PEDs. 

 

There are players in the HOF who've admitted they used amphetamines and possibly some who used steroids since it's alleged that steroid use in baseball began as early as the 70's. 

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It's impossible to know exactly which players used PED's, when they used them, or precisely how much their stats were helped by the use of PEDs. 

 

There are players in the HOF who've admitted they used amphetamines and possibly some who used steroids since it's alleged that steroid use in baseball began as early as the 70's. 

Not with these two.

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Not with these two.

 

Then tell us exactly what Roger Clemens' career numbers would be if he didn't use PEDs

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