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Joe did undergo MRI & it revealed a mild sprain of his MCL

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When you think about the staggering amount of hits Flacco has taken in his career and has never missed a game, it's truly amazing.  His durability is unsurpassed by NFL standards.  Hopefully, with the realization that the Ravens could lose him with another hit in that area, his sorry OL will respond and give him better protection.  They weren't too bad in the Lions game but it will have to get even better from this point on. 

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When you think about the staggering amount of hits Flacco has taken in his career and has never missed a game, it's truly amazing.  His durability is unsurpassed by NFL standards.  Hopefully, with the realization that the Ravens could lose him with another hit in that area, his sorry OL will respond and give him better protection.  They weren't too bad in the Lions game but it will have to get even better from this point on. 

Detroit might have been their best game, I'm not sure they can play better.  Hopefully, they'll build off of it and, fortunately, there aren't many front 4 as good as the Lions.

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I'm assuming the guy who hit him will be fined, right?  I mean, there isn't a snowball's chance in hell that if the same thing happens to Brady or Manning, that the ref 1) doesn't throw a flag, and 2) the league doesn't levy a fine.  None.  Zip.  Zero.

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I'm assuming the guy who hit him will be fined, right?  I mean, there isn't a snowball's chance in hell that if the same thing happens to Brady or Manning, that the ref 1) doesn't throw a flag, and 2) the league doesn't levy a fine.  None.  Zip.  Zero.

 

If it was Brady, he would have got up and started crying for a flag.  And the refs would be tripping over each other to throw their flags.

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I'm assuming the guy who hit him will be fined, right?  I mean, there isn't a snowball's chance in hell that if the same thing happens to Brady or Manning, that the ref 1) doesn't throw a flag, and 2) the league doesn't levy a fine.  None.  Zip.  Zero.

There was comment during the telecast that the defender was tripped and/or pushed into Joe's leg. I know if it was Tom Brady that would not have mattered, but I wonder if that is why there has been no foul or fine?

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If they are going to have that rule then there should be no room for interpretation/ judgement about it being accidental.  Seems to me it should be just like the  hit to the head penalty.  If a pass rusher is swiping to block the ball as the QB throws and his pinky grazes the helmet a flag is thrown.  So any impact below the knee should be a flag. Period. No need to wonder "hmm, how did that happen?"  Especially if the QB is clearly injured by it.

 

There was another play in the game where the lineman came through offsides, unabated.  The wistle blew.  The guy took another step after the whistle, then proceeded to swat the ball out of Joe's hands.  How is that not a penalty?  You can even hear Flacco in the audio saying to the ref "Hey, he can't hit me like that!"  What if he swats at the ball and bruises his throwing hand or jams a finger.  Just pathetic.  Lions D line = dirty players.

 

What about the Chicago game.  Third and long.  McCown throws his pass, I think it was Dumervil, but he's within a half step, maybe a step, shoves McCown to the turf.  Doesn't smash him, fall on him, or otherwise do anything malicious.  Instant flag and 15 yards and a huge first down in the fourth qtr of a game we eventually lost by 1 point.

 

As long as we get more in our favor than not I'll deal with it but this officiating blows this year.  I'ts like watching the replacement refs from the first few weeks last season.

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If they are going to have that rule then there should be no room for interpretation/ judgement about it being accidental.  Seems to me it should be just like the  hit to the head penalty.  If a pass rusher is swiping to block the ball as the QB throws and his pinky grazes the helmet a flag is thrown.  So any impact below the knee should be a flag. Period. No need to wonder "hmm, how did that happen?"  Especially if the QB is clearly injured by it.

 

But not if the QB is Joe or Big Ben (among others).

 

There was another play in the game where the lineman came through offsides, unabated.  The wistle blew.  The guy took another step after the whistle, then proceeded to swat the ball out of Joe's hands.  How is that not a penalty?  You can even hear Flacco in the audio saying to the ref "Hey, he can't hit me like that!"  What if he swats at the ball and bruises his throwing hand or jams a finger.  Just pathetic.  Lions D line = dirty players.

 

I was wondering about that one too. At least delay of game needed to be called.

 

 

As long as we get more in our favor than not I'll deal with it but this officiating blows this year.  I'ts like watching the replacement refs from the first few weeks last season.

 

In my view, we've actually had (for a change) more big calls in our favor this year than against. In years past, there were games after which we could point to one blown call as a major contributor to a Ravens' loss.  I cannot recall that happening this season.

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It started last year. The Ravens started getting the kind of calls the Steelers, Brady, and Manning always got. And, for the most part, has continued this year. (Except when it comes to Joe. He gets hit out of bounds; no call. He gets a helmet to the knee; no call. He gets the ball knocked out of his hands on an off side; no call.)

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It started last year. The Ravens started getting the kind of calls the Steelers, Brady, and Manning always got. And, for the most part, has continued this year. (Except when it comes to Joe. He gets hit out of bounds; no call. He gets a helmet to the knee; no call. He gets the ball knocked out of his hands on an off side; no call.)

 

So if all else remains equal AND we start getting some of THOSE calls (the ones for Joe)... Think of the possibilites.

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So if all else remains equal AND we start getting some of THOSE calls (the ones for Joe)... Think of the possibilites.

I think the Ravens can hang with anyone other than the Broncos and the Seahawks.

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I think the Ravens can hang with anyone other than the Broncos and the Seahawks.

 

I agree they can hang with them.  But hanging with equals close games and a powerball pick at the end.  The odds of 5 touchdowns in 2 min. or a 61 yard FG to win are going to hedge against us eventually.  Or maybe those things are the evening out of things like playing in mud bowl and having the snap get stuck in the mud on a game winning touchdown try.

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Personally, I'm glad it was not called. I don't want to see anybody (Brady, Manning, etc included) get hurt, but I think the NFL is becoming nearly unwatchable with all of these calls. The PI calls alone are disgusting. Entire teams offenses (The Ravens included) are being built around throwing deep 7 or 8 times a game and collecting 1/2 of those throws in PI yardage. The Ravens have benefited from the calls going their way the last two games. I don't think it's favoritism, just as I never thought the Ravens were being singled out on calls going the other way. But quite honestly the only PI call I thought was legit on Monday was the one not called on Webb when he obviously held the Detroit receivers arm. You can no longer size up a game based on teams strenghts and weaknesses. The whim of the officials and what they see, what they think they see and what they don't see dictate more of how a game is going to go then the teams themselves. Roger Goodell is ruining the game with all of these rules. The NFL needs to take a step back and let the players play a little more. The NFL is starting to look like the NBA with all of it's hand check fouls.

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Personally, I'm glad it was not called. I don't want to see anybody (Brady, Manning, etc included) get hurt, but I think the NFL is becoming nearly unwatchable with all of these calls. The PI calls alone are disgusting. Entire teams offenses (The Ravens included) are being built around throwing deep 7 or 8 times a game and collecting 1/2 of those throws in PI yardage. The Ravens have benefited from the calls going their way the last two games. I don't think it's favoritism, just as I never thought the Ravens were being singled out on calls going the other way. But quite honestly the only PI call I thought was legit on Monday was the one not called on Webb when he obviously held the Detroit receivers arm. You can no longer size up a game based on teams strenghts and weaknesses. The whim of the officials and what they see, what they think they see and what they don't see dictate more of how a game is going to go then the teams themselves. Roger Goodell is ruining the game with all of these rules. The NFL needs to take a step back and let the players play a little more. The NFL is starting to look like the NBA with all of it's hand check fouls.

Anyone who is older than 40 and is a NFL purist at heart, can't be too happy with the way the game is played today but there's no secret that Goodell & Co. want to see a lot of yardage and scoring.  But just like the steroid era in baseball, at some point, relatively speaking,  it becomes absurd and tarnishes records that were set when the game was much different.  I've always thought the biggest joke is when they try to compare Johnny Unitas to quarterbacks today.   The problem with all of this is that you lose balance and it starts to border on the ridiculous.  The numbers Denver's putting up offensively is almost comical.  It's hard for me to even take it seriously sometimes.  I just wish the Ravens would finally figure out how to jump aboard the points scoring frenzy train and join in the fun.

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You can't tackle here, you can't tackle there. In reality, most can't tackle anyway because of the CBA and the ridiculous training camp and practice rules. You can see the difference on the field in a real game situation. And, I agree, the PI calls are almost laughable. And of course we have taunting. I can just imagine the look on Artie's face if they had that back in his day when real men played real football. The NFL in years to come will be bogged down in lawsuits over concussions and ultimately the fans will pay for it. The game is on its way out IMO.

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It started last year. The Ravens started getting the kind of calls the Steelers, Brady, and Manning always got. And, for the most part, has continued this year. (Except when it comes to Joe. He gets hit out of bounds; no call. He gets a helmet to the knee; no call. He gets the ball knocked out of his hands on an off side; no call.)

I try to keep an even perspective on the ravens, but this is incontrovertible. when Joe was hit after he went out of bounds, and no flag was thrown, I just couldn't help but think maybe there's some validity to the theory that the league hates our team. 

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