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#1 ziptop

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Posted 08 January 2014 - 11:32 AM

And Castillo in particular.

 

Even though in his words, "We didn't get the results we wanted".

 

This is worse than politics and just as unpleasant. It's supposed to be a game isn't it? About as fun as politics.



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Posted 08 January 2014 - 11:54 AM

What was he supposed to say "Castillo sucks, I hate that guy?"
 


Edited by bmore_ken, 08 January 2014 - 11:54 AM.

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Posted 08 January 2014 - 12:03 PM

Just go down to the "Castillo a Great Coach" thread and read it to gauge the board member's feelings on this.



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Posted 08 January 2014 - 12:04 PM

What was he supposed to say "Castillo sucks, I hate that guy?"
 

 

I swear people on this board want the Ravens to be ran like Al Davis ran the Raiders during his last 5 or so years.



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Posted 08 January 2014 - 12:12 PM

Oh I see, the coaches are just wonderful and the entire dismal performance by the offense this year clearly falls on the players. Well folks, all I can say is get ready for the same next year but IMO worse than this year. The coaching staff on this team are so dysfunctional it's laughable.


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Posted 08 January 2014 - 12:12 PM

A dog and pony show worthy of Carl Rove or any other foul political operative. They tell me how smart Bisciotti is, how smart Ozzie is. They told me how smart Clinton was. What does a stupid person look like?

 

So Bernard Pierce needs surgery, shocker. Wasn't everybody injured? But if these guys were injured where were the backups? There were no backups? You're kidding right? We dumped backup Bobby Rainey? And we had no backup running backs? Our offensive line has been kicked around all year, but were any backups put in? You've got to wonder what Bobby Rainey would have done here this year.



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Posted 08 January 2014 - 12:21 PM

A dog and pony show worthy of Carl Rove or any other foul political operative. They tell me how smart Bisciotti is, how smart Ozzie is. They told me how smart Clinton was. What does a stupid person look like?

 

So Bernard Pierce needs surgery, shocker. Wasn't everybody injured? But if these guys were injured where were the backups? There were no backups? You're kidding right? We dumped backup Bobby Rainey? And we had no backup running backs? Our offensive line has been kicked around all year, but were any backups put in? You've got to wonder what Bobby Rainey would have done here this year.

The funny thing is...when Scott FINALLY got some touches with Rice on the sideline there was at least a GLIMMER of hope. Of course, that was shot down in the second half. And then we have Harbaugh not even knowing if Rice was or wasn't in the game; we have Harbaugh first saying it wasn't injury-related AFTER Rice said he was injured; then we have Harbaugh saying Rice SHOULD have been in the game and he has no idea why he wasn't.

 

Look folks...THIS is your John Harbaugh-led/Steve Bisciotti sanctioned Ravens team. It's all smoke and mirrors. Harbaugh will no sooner win another Super Bowl than Billick did. And this is how it's going to be. So the apologists will keep ranting about the "FIVE STRAIGHT PLAYOFF APPEARANCES AND ONLY ONE 8-8 SEASON; the critics will keep pointing out the ridiculous shortcomings; and that's how it's going to be.


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Posted 08 January 2014 - 12:24 PM

A dog and pony show worthy of Carl Rove or any other foul political operative. They tell me how smart Bisciotti is, how smart Ozzie is. They told me how smart Clinton was. What does a stupid person look like?

 

So Bernard Pierce needs surgery, shocker. Wasn't everybody injured? But if these guys were injured where were the backups? There were no backups? You're kidding right? We dumped backup Bobby Rainey? And we had no backup running backs? Our offensive line has been kicked around all year, but were any backups put in? You've got to wonder what Bobby Rainey would have done here this year.

Who carries 5 RBs on their roster?


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Posted 08 January 2014 - 12:56 PM

5 RB's, excuse me? You mean who caries a backup running back? Or do you mean who throws away a good running back when you have none?

 

A funny thing about this Castillo saga and one I haven't heard in a long time is thatwhen it first came to light and players had a meeting with the staf voicing their complaints and then McKinnie spoke out...we were told then that Castillo was as much as gone, that he had been "demoted" and his influence and position diminished. Do you remember this? That's what the word was. Now all of a sudden, we're told that he hasn't been diminished at all, but praised and retained. Hello?

 

Definitely hello to the Harbaugh- Bisciotti, Ozzie Newsome dog and pony show. The question is...is Ozzie going to get even worse? I wonder how many good players he will get rid of this year to pay for new players he brings in, pays and then dumps in a few weeks.

 

Was Boldin really the MVP of the Niners this year? And he was dumped so that Hauf, Spears, and Canty could be paid and brought. How many people in any business could pull a stunt like that and still have their jobs?



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Posted 08 January 2014 - 01:03 PM

5 RB's, excuse me? You mean who caries a backup running back? Or do you mean who throws away a good running back when you have none?

 

A funny thing about this Castillo saga and one I haven't heard in a long time is thatwhen it first came to light and players had a meeting with the staf voicing their complaints and then McKinnie spoke out...we were told then that Castillo was as much as gone, that he had been "demoted" and his influence and position diminished. Do you remember this? That's what the word was. Now all of a sudden, we're told that he hasn't been diminished at all, but praised and retained. Hello?

 

Definitely hello to the Harbaugh- Bisciotti, Ozzie Newsome dog and pony show. The question is...is Ozzie going to get even worse? I wonder how many good players he will get rid of this year to pay for new players he brings in, pays and then dumps in a few weeks.

 

Was Boldin really the MVP of the Niners this year? And he was dumped so that Hauf, Spears, and Canty could be paid and brought. How many people in any business could pull a stunt like that and still have their jobs?

 

Ozzie has two rings as a GM.  How many do you have since you're now an expert general manager?

 

And you do realize that Pierce was the backup right?  :rolleyes:


Edited by ivanbalt, 08 January 2014 - 01:05 PM.


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Posted 08 January 2014 - 01:13 PM

5 RB's, excuse me? You mean who caries a backup running back? Or do you mean who throws away a good running back when you have none?

 

We had a back up RB his name was Bernard Pierce. The Ravens opened the season with  2 HBs and 2 FBs. Rainey isn't here because Ozzie wasn't carrying 5RBs. There are only 53 roster spots


Edited by bmore_ken, 08 January 2014 - 01:14 PM.

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Posted 08 January 2014 - 01:24 PM

It's amazing how much consistent winning turns a fan base into an incessantly whiny, entitled group of "experts."

20-25 franchises in the NFL would trade their coaching staff, ownership, and FOs for Baltimore's without taking time to blink, and almost all the rest would at least consider it. Meanwhile we sit here talking about everyone needing to be fired, all hope being lost ONE YEAR after a Super Bowl, and second guessing a consensus top 3 GM in the sport. You know things are getting silly when fans are insistent that the head coach should publicly blast his coaches (which no classy individual does, especially in a profession based on reputation).

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Posted 08 January 2014 - 01:27 PM

 

Was Boldin really the MVP of the Niners this year? And he was dumped so that Hauf, Spears, and Canty could be paid and brought. How many people in any business could pull a stunt like that and still have their jobs?

 

No he wasn't. It was essentially a Boldin for Dumerville and Canty trade. I can see why they did it building depth on the DL and adding a passrusher which a lot of them do not exist, but of course 20/20 vision we shouldn't of done it. I was on board with the move in the beginning of the season as the Suggs and Dumerville pass rush was outstanding. Looking back at it, it was a bad move especially because Dumerville was not a full-time player.

 

 

I am not sure why we kept Castillo, but he does have a very good reputation around the NFL. I think the amount of money we are paying him, Ravens simply could not fire him.


Edited by Dub, 08 January 2014 - 01:29 PM.


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Posted 08 January 2014 - 01:41 PM

Harbaugh's comments at the press conference. Sound familiar?

 

“Going forward, our plan now is to improve and get better,” Harbaugh said. “There are a lot of things we didn’t do well as a coaching staff, and that’s why we look at ourselves first. We have to do a better job of putting our players in position to make plays – offense, defense and special teams.”

 

And this from Garrett Downing, staff writer:

 

Juan Castillo will remain in Baltimore next season, but will have a different nameplate outside his office.

After serving as the run game coordinator last year, Castillo will have a new title next season.   

“Juan’s title is going to be the offensive line coach. That’s the way he worked last year,” Head Coach John Harbaugh announced during Wednesday’s season-review press conference.

Castillo was the team’s primary offensive line coach last season, although his title focused on the running game. Castillo took over for Andy Moeller as the lead offensive line coach, but Moeller remained on staff as an assistant. Todd Washington was also an assistant offensive line coach.

 “The rest of it is a little bit in flux right now,” Harbaugh said.

 

Oh they're in a flux alright. Worst O-Liine in the history of the team; worst run game in the history of the team; Flacco had a bulls eye on him all season. So, Castillo, who was the team's primary offensive line coach (but didn't have the title) will now be officially the OL coach. Can't wait. Should be an exciting season next year.


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Posted 08 January 2014 - 01:51 PM

 

Oh they're in a flux alright. Worst O-Liine in the history of the team; worst run game in the history of the team; Flacco had a bulls eye on him all season. So, Castillo, who was the team's primary offensive line coach (but didn't have the title) will now be officially the OL coach. Can't wait. Should be an exciting season next year.

Not that I'm defending Castillo, but is it his fault that KO got injured, Yanda played injured, McKinney reverted to form(worthless), Rice got injured and Harbaugh decided Gradkowski had starter talent at C? I'm not saying he doesn't deserve some blame but some of it was out of his control from the way I see it


Edited by bmore_ken, 08 January 2014 - 01:52 PM.

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Posted 08 January 2014 - 02:21 PM

We had a back up RB his name was Bernard Pierce. The Ravens opened the season with  2 HBs and 2 FBs. Rainey isn't here because Ozzie wasn't carrying 5RBs. There are only 53 roster spots

Uhm...by definition...doesn't a "running back" need to, uhm...run? You count K-Juice but he isn't an effin running back, he's a special teams player. So once again you pick on some ridiculous obtuse unrelated irrelevant issue to try to make your obtuse unrelated irrelevant point. So effin typical man. Why do you even bother? You're just not very good at this.



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Posted 08 January 2014 - 02:23 PM

Not that I'm defending Castillo, but is it his fault that KO got injured, Yanda played injured, McKinney reverted to form(worthless), Rice got injured and Harbaugh decided Gradkowski had starter talent at C? I'm not saying he doesn't deserve some blame but some of it was out of his control from the way I see it

I love when people start out saying: "Not that I'm defending x y z", then go on to defend x y z. He is the one who got the O-line more out of control than it's ever been. ALL teams have injuries along the O-line. ALL teams. Only the Ravens, under the great Juan Castillo, ended up in the crapper for an ENTIRE SEASON. Get a clue.



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Posted 08 January 2014 - 02:23 PM

Uhm...by definition...doesn't a "running back" need to, uhm...run? You count K-Juice but he isn't an effin running back, he's a special teams player. So once again you pick on some ridiculous obtuse unrelated irrelevant issue to try to make your obtuse unrelated irrelevant point. So effin typical man. Why do you even bother? You're just not very good at this.

Regardless you can count or not count  him as whatever you want but on the depth chart it says  FB next to his name not ST and Oz wasn't carrying 5 RBs. No GM in the NFL would


Edited by bmore_ken, 08 January 2014 - 02:25 PM.

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Posted 08 January 2014 - 02:24 PM

It's amazing how much consistent winning turns a fan base into an incessantly whiny, entitled group of "experts."

20-25 franchises in the NFL would trade their coaching staff, ownership, and FOs for Baltimore's without taking time to blink, and almost all the rest would at least consider it. Meanwhile we sit here talking about everyone needing to be fired, all hope being lost ONE YEAR after a Super Bowl, and second guessing a consensus top 3 GM in the sport. You know things are getting silly when fans are insistent that the head coach should publicly blast his coaches (which no classy individual does, especially in a profession based on reputation).

At least I'm entertained.

I agree. I especially agree with the bolded comment. I guess those who want to see public floggings are the same people who wish Rex Ryan would have been given the HC job instead of Harbs. Because Rex loves to throw everyone under the bus, while never taking any responsibility for a franchise that is an embarrassment to professional sports.


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Posted 08 January 2014 - 02:24 PM

Harbaugh's comments at the press conference. Sound familiar?

 

“Going forward, our plan now is to improve and get better,” Harbaugh said. “There are a lot of things we didn’t do well as a coaching staff, and that’s why we look at ourselves first. We have to do a better job of putting our players in position to make plays – offense, defense and special teams.”

 

And this from Garrett Downing, staff writer:

 

Juan Castillo will remain in Baltimore next season, but will have a different nameplate outside his office.

After serving as the run game coordinator last year, Castillo will have a new title next season.   

“Juan’s title is going to be the offensive line coach. That’s the way he worked last year,” Head Coach John Harbaugh announced during Wednesday’s season-review press conference.

Castillo was the team’s primary offensive line coach last season, although his title focused on the running game. Castillo took over for Andy Moeller as the lead offensive line coach, but Moeller remained on staff as an assistant. Todd Washington was also an assistant offensive line coach.

 “The rest of it is a little bit in flux right now,” Harbaugh said.

 

Oh they're in a flux alright. Worst O-Liine in the history of the team; worst run game in the history of the team; Flacco had a bulls eye on him all season. So, Castillo, who was the team's primary offensive line coach (but didn't have the title) will now be officially the OL coach. Can't wait. Should be an exciting season next year.

As I said...it's going to be the same old crap as long as Harbaugh is in charge.






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