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Brian Roberts DFA'd by NY

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He hit 56 doubles in his last full season before becoming the MLB version of a permanent disability case. Unfortunately that was 2009 and Brian is 36. Anyone could see just watching him last year that he was nowhere close to the old Brian Roberts. Being 36 and playing 2B doesn't mix play well at the MLB level.

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He hit 56 doubles in his last full season before becoming the MLB version of a permanent disability case. Unfortunately that was 2009 and Brian is 36. Anyone could see just watching him last year that he was nowhere close to the old Brian Roberts. Being 36 and playing 2B doesn't mix play well at the MLB level.

That's odd...

 

He has been slumping but his average is still 50 points higher than Drew.

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And leaving defense aside he's also been doing better than Flahtery and Schoop.

 

He was a very good Oriole for a very long time.

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That's odd...

 

He has been slumping but his average is still 50 points higher than Drew.

 

He's had decent at-bats this season even when he was slumping. Drew is going to be paid more and doesn't seem like much of an upgrade. 

 

Some of the moves made by the Yanks this year make no sense...

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He's had decent at-bats this season even when he was slumping. Drew is going to be paid more and doesn't seem like much of an upgrade. 

 

Some of the moves made by the Yanks this year make no sense...

It seems like they have blown up the team mid season.

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That's odd...

 

He has been slumping but his average is still 50 points higher than Drew.

 

What's odd? A guy with 100-something AB's with no spring training is off to a poor start? Or that Roberts is washed up as an everyday 2B?

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I'd DFA Flaherty and sign Roberts.

You need someone who can fill in at 3rd or short. I'd consider sending Schoop down to triple A for a month and bringing roberts back.

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I heard Bobby Grich is available. Maybe we can trade a prospect or two for him. Nah, the Angels would never part with him and he wouldn't make it  through waivers. ;)

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I'd consider sending Schoop down to triple A for a month and bringing roberts back.

I don't see anything wrong with this idea. it won't hurt Schoop's development, and doesn't require a long term commitment to B-Rob. and Roberts' experience will help down the stretch.  

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I don't see anything wrong with this idea. it won't hurt Schoop's development, and doesn't require a long term commitment to B-Rob. and Roberts' experience will help down the stretch.  

Nor do I. We would lose a little defensively, but potentially gain a little offensively.

 

Schoop obviously is the 2B of the future, but he isn't helping enough offensively RIGHT NOW, and in light of the big moves Detroit and Oakland made, the O's had better do something to pick up the offense even just a little. 

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yikes

 

 

Okay, the second part, maybe not, but the first part, definitely.

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He's had decent at-bats this season even when he was slumping. Drew is going to be paid more and doesn't seem like much of an upgrade. 

 

Some of the moves made by the Yanks this year make no sense...

Maybe, but the other moves they made were good-to-great.

They gave up a bag of balls and got a bunch of good starter-level talent.

Drew, Prado, Capuano, Headley, McCarthy, and Francis are a nice haul.

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Maybe, but the other moves they made were good-to-great.

They gave up a bag of balls and got a bunch of good starter-level talent.

Drew, Prado, Capuano, Headley, McCarthy, and Francis are a nice haul.

I agree. Cashman is a wizard. I swear the guy uses the Jedi mind trick on other GMs. my fav. was when he convinced TX to pay for a significant portion of Pay-Roid's salary. wasn't it like $10M/yr the TX paid NYY?

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Maybe, but the other moves they made were good-to-great.

They gave up a bag of balls and got a bunch of good starter-level talent.

Drew, Prado, Capuano, Headley, McCarthy, and Francis are a nice haul.

I may be wrong but that does not strike me as a playoff bound team. Rather a bag of mediocrity.

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I don't see anything wrong with this idea. it won't hurt Schoop's development, and doesn't require a long term commitment to B-Rob. and Roberts' experience will help down the stretch.  

I agree on sending Schoop down.  I've seen enough for this year.  The guy has 305 ABs , .213 avg, 75Ks and 8 walks.  The guy is a train wreck for getting on base and putting the ball in play. Exactly what you don't want at the bottom of the order.  Forget about Roberts and bring back Lombardozzi to start at second..  He hit .290 when he was up and is at .290 at AAA.  And the guy is as good defensively as Schoop. He is a switch hitter and can fill in at third and left.   I've never seen a guy get buried like Lombo after performing well at either level.  And the guy is only 25.  He must of pouted or something when he was sent down.  Cause he is buried right now.

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I agree on sending Schoop down.  I've seen enough for this year.  The guy has 305 ABs , .213 avg, 75Ks and 8 walks.  The guy is a train wreck for getting on base and putting the ball in play. Exactly what you don't want at the bottom of the order.  Forget about Roberts and bring back Lombardozzi to start at second..  He hit .290 when he was up and is at .290 at AAA.  And the guy is as good defensively as Schoop. He is a switch hitter and can fill in at third and left.   I've never seen a guy get buried like Lombo after performing well at either level.  And the guy is only 25.  He must of pouted or something when he was sent down.  Cause he is buried right now.

I think one month at triple A would wonders for Schoop in terms of plate discipline. They did this with Gausman, brought him up, sent him down and said, this is what you need to work on.

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I agree on sending Schoop down.  I've seen enough for this year.  The guy has 305 ABs , .213 avg, 75Ks and 8 walks.  The guy is a train wreck for getting on base and putting the ball in play. Exactly what you don't want at the bottom of the order.  Forget about Roberts and bring back Lombardozzi to start at second..  He hit .290 when he was up and is at .290 at AAA.  And the guy is as good defensively as Schoop. He is a switch hitter and can fill in at third and left.   I've never seen a guy get buried like Lombo after performing well at either level.  And the guy is only 25.  He must of pouted or something when he was sent down.  Cause he is buried right now.

I like this idea too

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I like this idea too

One thing I don't like about Buck is his weird loyalties. At a certain level, I understand the philosophy of letting Schoop learn at the major league level. I even advocated for it earlier in the year but is his defense THAT much better than Lombardozi's? You could argue that Schoop cost us the game last night.

 

Another place I saw this pop up was the bizarre decision to take one of the team's hottest hitters, Delmon Young, out of the lineup for pinch hitter, Chris Davis. Davis of course is below the Mendoza line and coming off a flu. Then, of course, we lose the one pinch hitter we have.

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I would also like to see a swap of Lombardozzi for Schoop. Can't hurt, probably would help.

 

No to Roberts. Liked him a lot years ago. That was then, this is now.

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I would also like to see a swap of Lombardozzi for Schoop. Can't hurt, probably would help.

 

No to Roberts. Liked him a lot years ago. That was then, this is now.

This is where I can be a bit too sentimental but I actually think Roberts would contribute if he came 'home' to Camden Yards in the midst of a pennant race.

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I may be wrong but that does not strike me as a playoff bound team. Rather a bag of mediocrity.

Imo, some these are moves more for next year, to set themselves up for player retirements.

 

They know they don't really have a shot this year.

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