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#41 bmore_ken

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Posted 01 July 2016 - 07:50 AM

Maybe the Beatles should have just stuck to instrumental music and let other people record it and not bothered with their lyrics. Much of what I have heard sounds rather childish to dimwitted or drug~influenced.


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Posted 01 July 2016 - 10:14 AM

No.  I like the jazz version presented above for what it sounds like.  The two songs by the Beatles I posted sound rather simple~minded whether they were on drugs or not when they wrote them and recorded them for release.

 

And if they were not on drugs at the time ~ maybe they should have been.  I do not see the "genius" aspect of them that a lot of people see.  Admittedly ~ they were well before my time ~ but those songs sound silly.  Even the songs they do that I do like sound like nothing special and actually very derivative in nature.



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Posted 01 July 2016 - 10:19 AM

Probably the only thing you and I will ever agree on. :D

I doubt that. We have agreed before ~ just this past week in fact ~ and will likely agree again.

I simply do not "get" the notion that the Beatles were all that great. And especially when there were many other people writing classic songs at the time that people like without the cult of personality that surrounds the Beatles.

I love old Motown and soul music and that too was long before my time. I think that many of those writers have withstood the test of time far better than Beatle stuff.

Edited by 0ctoburn, 01 July 2016 - 10:20 AM.


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Posted 01 July 2016 - 02:25 PM

Derivative of what? I'm sure you two are right and all the musicians the credit them as inspiration were wrong

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Posted 01 July 2016 - 03:52 PM

Derivative of what? I'm sure you two are right and all the musicians the credit them as inspiration were wrong


There is no right or wrong. Some people like them and some do not. Not one person here has explained why Justin Bieber's version of a Beatles song is so bad when even Carlos Santana obviously disagrees. I understand why people like to listen to old music they liked when they were younger. I love The Smiths and Oasis even though other people do not like them.

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Posted 01 July 2016 - 03:58 PM

I think you have to look at the culture of the time in which they started out, in which pop music was largely a product turned out by the music publishing business. They'd hire somebody to write a song, book a studio, hire some musicians to record it (some of whom were groups or became groups) and that was the product. The Beatles were really the main ones to change that to artists who wrote and performed their own songs. Were "Love Me Do" and "I Wanna Hold Your Hand" great literature? Of course not, but for the time it was what the pop biz was about. It took people like Bob Dylan to actual start making a living singing songs worth thinking about, and quite a bit of the Beatles later output was quite significant. You can like it or not as is your taste and your prerogative, but it cannot be denied that they were on the leading edge of a cultural change that perhaps today is taken for granted.  


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Posted 01 July 2016 - 06:42 PM

Basically the era you were born in has the best music for those people.Its the soundtrack of their lives.

Edited by mcorioles, 01 July 2016 - 06:42 PM.


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Posted 01 July 2016 - 06:43 PM

There is no right or wrong. Some people like them and some do not. Not one person here has explained why Justin Bieber's version of a Beatles song is so bad when even Carlos Santana obviously disagrees. I understand why people like to listen to old music they liked when they were younger. I love The Smiths and Oasis even though other people do not like them.


I love both of those groups even though The Oasis bros are Aholes.

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Posted 01 July 2016 - 07:35 PM

Derivative of what? I'm sure you two are right and all the musicians the credit them as inspiration were wrong

Musical taste is subjective. I simply posted my opinion or rather agreed with octo's. 


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Posted 02 July 2016 - 11:45 AM

So you like Jazz versions because jazz has no history of drug use?

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Posted 02 July 2016 - 05:18 PM


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Posted 02 July 2016 - 10:15 PM

Definitely not a boys band. The Beatles were real musicians with real talent. I like the raw stuff the best. 



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Posted 03 July 2016 - 07:39 AM

The "genius and songwriting" of the Beatles on display. :D :P


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Posted 03 July 2016 - 07:47 AM

The "genius and songwriting" of the Beatles on display. :D :P


A lot of the song songs you posted look dumb on their own but seemed to fit in well on album .......

That's another major difference in music today, folks buy songs or more accurately, hits on iTunes, etc ......

Back in the day musicians sold albums and there were themes to the albums and the songs fit together.......
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Posted 03 July 2016 - 07:55 AM

I am just enjoying how much octo listened to The Beatles this month.

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Posted 03 July 2016 - 08:30 AM

The "genius and songwriting" of the Beatles on display. :D :P

That you dont see the genius of the song writing shows us you really are out of your league when critiquing music.



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Posted 04 July 2016 - 07:13 AM

Music is like cuisine. Some like spicy Thai, some like a nice boiled New England dinner, some like sushi. What's great for some is yuck to others.

It's all good. Or bad! :P
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Posted 12 July 2016 - 09:53 PM

That's probably why Octoburn made the original remark in the title, thinking the Beatles and Monkees were the same thing when the Monkees were a cheap tv-made imitations of the Beatles. The Beatles changed the music industry. The Monkees had a few cute songs. Oasis, Weezer and Collective Soul will be long forgotten as the Beatles continue on.


As much as I love the Beatles you may be wrong. I think the younger generation could care less about the Beatles or they never heard of them. My girlfriends daughter asked me who Paul McCartney was. I couldn't believe it that she didn't know.

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Posted 12 July 2016 - 10:05 PM

As much as I love the Beatles you may be wrong. I think the younger generation could care less about the Beatles or they never heard of them. My girlfriends daughter asked me who Paul McCartney was. I couldn't believe it that she didn't know.

The majority of kids and teens know the Beatles or will discover them.  


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Posted 12 July 2016 - 10:09 PM

The majority of kids and teens know the Beatles or will discover them.


I agree,essential listening but overrated musicians.




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