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Loyola Blakefield Head Coaching Vacancy

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Anything on the street as to who may be applying or what type of candidate the School is targeting? This Program has been too pedestrian for too long. Come on Dons.....

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Only heard 2names so far, Oline coach Zehyoue and jv Head Coach Price

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Zehyoue should be given the job. Very high football IQ, teacher at the school, kids love him, also runs the off season and pre season workouts incorporating many things from the college level. The OLine at LB is the only position that showed improvement the past two years. Coincidentally, Zehyoue was the Oline coach. Good character guy as well.

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The ultimate coach of the program will not make a difference if the numbers at the school do not turn around. Eight years ago there were 120+boys playing football this year close to 70. Either ratchet the program down out of the A conference or make sure every body else in the A conference is running with the same restrictor plates. Nick Saban could not win with what is lining up on equipment day at Loyola now. 

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The ultimate coach of the program will not make a difference if the numbers at the school do not turn around. Eight years ago there were 120+boys playing football this year close to 70. Either ratchet the program down out of the A conference or make sure every body else in the A conference is running with the same restrictor plates. Nick Saban could not win with what is lining up on equipment day at Loyola now. 

Completely disagree, it's more about quality than quantity. You need to be out at the youth games discovering the hidden gems and generating visibility for your program. Look to recruit football families (parental buy in and hopefully multple boys) and give a couple of partial scholarships to "can't miss" D1 prospects per year. This is not rocket science but you need a good network of "scouts" and "friends" and an active sales effort to cover the northern half of the Baltimore metro area. Once you get them in the program, hold them to a high standard and develop the heck out of them. If you quality control check 8 recruits (they can be multi-sport athletes), and you estimate 2 per year don't pan out. That gives you a nucleus of 12 upperclassmen and 6 sophomores to be the core of your A Conference team. I believe 2-4 A Conference football players can be developed organically per class (not recruited) which would increase your nucleus to 24-28. To recruit organically the HC needs to identify great athletes from other sports and recruit them to play football. Its really that simple but it takes a ton of hard work over 2-3 years to rebuild the pipeline. To lead this rebuilding effort you need a charismatic hard working great football coach who hires a great staff and has experience leading or working a program rebuild. 

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If it were as easy as the head coach recruiting they would not be looking at their 6th (think) consequtive losing season. The coaches there, both Abbott and Hall, recruited, but there is a handoff after you identify a boy who is a good football player that needs to be supported by financial aid, and some acedemic, social, and cultural support at the school. Too often the boys brought into play football feel like the whole burden of a turnaround is on their shoulders. The pressure to succeed academically is hard enough, to be the torch bearer for a "turnaround" is too much for some, who may not be the same boy at 18 as they were at 14. 

 

The problem is not just football. Basketball suffers in the same way. One or two ringers obviously there for sports can not turn around the competitive balance issue the school is facing. And Loyola has always been shy about putting its wallet where it's sports ambitions are. A token amount of aid to say you offered something is not enough to entice blue collar, working class families to forgo free public or bigger spending (and usually cheaper) privates. 

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If it were as easy as the head coach recruiting they would not be looking at their 6th (think) consequtive losing season. The coaches there, both Abbott and Hall, recruited, but there is a handoff after you identify a boy who is a good football player that needs to be supported by financial aid, and some acedemic, social, and cultural support at the school. Too often the boys brought into play football feel like the whole burden of a turnaround is on their shoulders. The pressure to succeed academically is hard enough, to be the torch bearer for a "turnaround" is too much for some, who may not be the same boy at 18 as they were at 14. 

 

The problem is not just football. Basketball suffers in the same way. One or two ringers obviously there for sports can not turn around the competitive balance issue the school is facing. And Loyola has always been shy about putting its wallet where it's sports ambitions are. A token amount of aid to say you offered something is not enough to entice blue collar, working class families to forgo free public or bigger spending (and usually cheaper) privates. 

Regarding numbers its all about reaching critical mass and leadership. If you never reach critical mass or don't have inspirational leadership, you don't succeed and the entire Program fails. That's what has happened over the past five years at LB. I'm not sure you need a core of 22 because even Gilman and MCD have had 5-6 players go both ways. The critical ingredient is no glaring weaknesses. All it takes is one Achilles heel and the entire scheme crumbles. Players start compensating and not trusting each other and the team concept evaporates. 

 

You need 8 billeted slots per year. To get to that number you probably have to actively recruit 20-30 qualified candidates per class. Admissions and the leadership of the School have to be on board. You may need to stretch 2 full rides over those 8 players creatively. One or two academic stretches per year and only to high character kids and families because if you start accepting kids that don't meet the academic thresholds you will lose the faculty and administration. No bad apples character wise. Vet the heck out of the kids. Basketball is much easier because all you need is 3-4 top flight recruits partnered with some great home grown role players and you're very competitive. You need some bigs and a great backcourt and you're in business. 

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But don't hold them to a standard to high or they will transfer

If the median matches the lower third of their class, you'll be fine. Every football class should have some academic superstars and every kid in the Program should be a "saint" in the classroom. What I mean is perfect attendance, homework and tutoring sessions. Its more about attitude and effort than academic aptitude. Remember, most football players want to start and star. A good coaching staff uses that carrott to incent the right type of behavior. All it takes is for one superstar to get benched for grades, behavior or attitude and the message will be received (if delivered diplomatically and fairly) and disseminated.  

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If the median matches the lower third of their class, you'll be fine. Every football class should have some academic superstars and every kid in the Program should be a "saint" in the classroom. What I mean is perfect attendance, homework and tutoring sessions. Its more about attitude and effort than academic aptitude.

Which is funny because if that same mentality applied then kids would stay at the schools they start at instead of hoping for easier I mean greener pastures

 

In a great program you hate balance not all of something

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But don't hold them to a standard to high or they will transfer

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Which is funny because if that same mentality applied then kids would stay at the schools they start at instead of hoping for easier I mean greener pastures

 

In a great program you hate balance not all of something

That would assume all schools were equal academically and athletically (coaches, facilities, exposure), etc. They're not. For example in the MIAA, Biff bought himself a great football program by partnering with a great academic high school and giving $$ to top recruits however usually in either middle school or in 9th grade. MCD has a more diversified approach: More indigenous kids, transfers (10th grade is a common entry grade) coupled with the normal multi sport 9th great recruits. Clearly they have the resources, academic and athletic reputation and resources to compete for any recruit.

 

Spalding, who was the second best team in the League this year, is a better role model for LB. Hire a dynamic and charismatic head coach and work really hard at recruiting tough football players. If you look at their line, they didn't have three or four star recruits but what I saw were 4-5 very solid strong high school linemen that drove every defense in the Conference off of the ball. They had a tough fast former wrestler as their QB (they've done well cherry picking the wrestling program) and have some fast tough (some undersized) kids in the secondary and backfield. Great coaching plus enough tough kids who love football and you win.Its that simple folks. Great coaches with enough administrative support turn programs around!

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What do you think is to high of a standard?

Just making an observation as some critique programs about what shoul/shouldn't be done

Some of those that are being critical ran from program A to program B because they couldn't meet the standards that initially they committed to

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The equation you listed does not=wins

Some of the programs have those things and still fail

Hell look at MCD my preseason fav

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That would assume all schools were equal academically and athletically (coaches, facilities, exposure), etc. They're not. For example in the MIAA, Biff bought himself a great football program by partnering with a great academic high school and giving $$ to top recruits however usually in either middle school or in 9th grade. MCD has a more diversified approach: More indigenous kids, transfers (10th grade is a common entry grade) coupled with the normal multi sport 9th great recruits. Clearly they have the resources, academic and athletic reputation and resources to compete for any recruit.

 

Spalding, who was the second best team in the League this year, is a better role model for LB. Hire a dynamic and charismatic head coach and work really hard at recruiting tough football players. If you look at their line, they didn't have three or four star recruits but what I saw were 4-5 very solid strong high school linemen that drove every defense in the Conference off of the ball. They had a tough fast former wrestler as their QB (they've done well cherry picking the wrestling program) and have some fast tough (some undersized) kids in the secondary and backfield. Great coaching plus enough tough kids who love football and you win.Its that simple folks. Great coaches with enough administrative support turn programs around!

Spalding is 5k cheaper and is the only shop in town really in Arundel coupled with the type of kids that naturally funnel into the school (thick stacked, hard working families)

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Mop

The equation you listed does not=wins

Some of the programs have those things and still fail

Hell look at MCD my preseason fav

Haha, we're talking about making LB competitive, not winning the League. Baby steps my man. 

 

MCD had some "holes" this past year that they corrected by year end. More schematic in my opinion but sometimes schemes are dictated by your view of personnel. There is nothing wrong with MCD's approach. They have a great system and it works extremely well. 

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Spalding is 5k cheaper and is the only shop in town really in Arundel coupled with the type of kids that naturally funnel into the school (thick stacked, hard working families)

Those type of kids used to attend LB. Seriously. The School may have priced themselves out (more by remaining small and not spreading fixed costs over a larger student population) of the working class' pocketbook. I keep coming back to management and leadership. It starts at the top (Board, President). When you lose your free labor (the Jesuits), you needed to change your model. IMHO, this is a failure of basic brand management and budgeting. 

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I dont really think the top dogs at LB really care if if the football, baseball, basketball programs have winning records. I have seen this over the past four years. First it was getting rid of the freshman football and baseball teams, quite a few kids quit the football program after this because they figured they would get little opportunity for playing time

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I dont really think the top dogs at LB really care if if the football, baseball, basketball programs have winning records. I have seen this over the past four years. First it was getting rid of the freshman football and baseball teams, quite a few kids quit the football program after this because they figured they would get little opportunity for playing time

I would agree that some don't care but several Board members do in that they understand it impacts admissions overall. This is failure of management plain and simple. When you see Spalding thriving despite having a less storied (shorter history) alumni base and a smaller endowment, you know it can be done. It takes good executive management and vision, a great coaching staff and enough scale (numbers of students and players) to turn it around. Strategic vision has been lacking at LB. Loyola will never be what is once was because the cost of teachers exploded when the Jesuits retired and the School didn't adjust accordingly. They have a campus (athletic facilities and infrastructure) that can handle 1,100 to 1,200 students but chose instead to try a progressive taxation scheme (tuition hikes ad nauseum). By doing this, they priced out one of their most important and core constituencies. the working class Catholic family. They turned into SP or Georgetown Prep while CHC and Gonzaga adopted more nimbly and held onto their core audience. By losing their working class constituency, they lost their best source of solid tough football players.   

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Gonzaga Tuition is about the same as LB

Yes but the per capita income in DC is significantly higher. A widow's mite......

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Gonzaga Tuition is about the same as LB

Rank County State Median Household Income 1 Loudoun County Virginia $117,876 2 Fairfax County Virginia $112,436 3 Howard County Maryland $108,844 4 Hunterdon County New Jersey $105,186 5 Arlington County Virginia $100,474 6 Stafford County Virginia $97,606 7 Putnam County New York $96,223 8 Somerset County New Jersey $95,825 9 Douglas County Colorado $95,324 10 Morris County New Jersey $95,294 11 Montgomery County Maryland $94,965 12 Prince William County Virginia $93,744 13 Nassau County New York $93,214 14 Santa Clara County California $91,425 15 Charles County Maryland $90,880 16 Williamson County Tennessee $90,759 17 Marin County California $90,535 18 Anne Arundel County Maryland $89,179 19 Calvert County Maryland $87,449 20 Sussex County New Jersey $86,625 21 St. Mary's County Maryland $86,358 22 Suffolk County New York $86,334 23 Fort Bend County Texas $86,256 24 Oakland County Michigan $86,567 25 Forsyth County Georgia $85,494 [show]2011 2010 Census[edit]

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