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#1 mop

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Posted 01 December 2016 - 12:34 PM

Anything on the street as to who may be applying or what type of candidate the School is targeting? This Program has been too pedestrian for too long. Come on Dons.....



#2 jbmad

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Posted 01 December 2016 - 12:36 PM

Only heard 2names so far, Oline coach Zehyoue and jv Head Coach Price

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Posted 01 December 2016 - 01:57 PM

Zehyoue should be given the job. Very high football IQ, teacher at the school, kids love him, also runs the off season and pre season workouts incorporating many things from the college level. The OLine at LB is the only position that showed improvement the past two years. Coincidentally, Zehyoue was the Oline coach. Good character guy as well.



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Posted 01 December 2016 - 02:25 PM

I have to agree, Loyola Oline was solid the last two years.

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Posted 02 December 2016 - 01:40 PM

The ultimate coach of the program will not make a difference if the numbers at the school do not turn around. Eight years ago there were 120+boys playing football this year close to 70. Either ratchet the program down out of the A conference or make sure every body else in the A conference is running with the same restrictor plates. Nick Saban could not win with what is lining up on equipment day at Loyola now. 



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Posted 02 December 2016 - 02:08 PM

The ultimate coach of the program will not make a difference if the numbers at the school do not turn around. Eight years ago there were 120+boys playing football this year close to 70. Either ratchet the program down out of the A conference or make sure every body else in the A conference is running with the same restrictor plates. Nick Saban could not win with what is lining up on equipment day at Loyola now. 

Completely disagree, it's more about quality than quantity. You need to be out at the youth games discovering the hidden gems and generating visibility for your program. Look to recruit football families (parental buy in and hopefully multple boys) and give a couple of partial scholarships to "can't miss" D1 prospects per year. This is not rocket science but you need a good network of "scouts" and "friends" and an active sales effort to cover the northern half of the Baltimore metro area. Once you get them in the program, hold them to a high standard and develop the heck out of them. If you quality control check 8 recruits (they can be multi-sport athletes), and you estimate 2 per year don't pan out. That gives you a nucleus of 12 upperclassmen and 6 sophomores to be the core of your A Conference team. I believe 2-4 A Conference football players can be developed organically per class (not recruited) which would increase your nucleus to 24-28. To recruit organically the HC needs to identify great athletes from other sports and recruit them to play football. Its really that simple but it takes a ton of hard work over 2-3 years to rebuild the pipeline. To lead this rebuilding effort you need a charismatic hard working great football coach who hires a great staff and has experience leading or working a program rebuild. 


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Posted 02 December 2016 - 02:19 PM

Mop I agree the school just has to do a better job recruiting.

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Posted 02 December 2016 - 02:32 PM

If it were as easy as the head coach recruiting they would not be looking at their 6th (think) consequtive losing season. The coaches there, both Abbott and Hall, recruited, but there is a handoff after you identify a boy who is a good football player that needs to be supported by financial aid, and some acedemic, social, and cultural support at the school. Too often the boys brought into play football feel like the whole burden of a turnaround is on their shoulders. The pressure to succeed academically is hard enough, to be the torch bearer for a "turnaround" is too much for some, who may not be the same boy at 18 as they were at 14. 

 

The problem is not just football. Basketball suffers in the same way. One or two ringers obviously there for sports can not turn around the competitive balance issue the school is facing. And Loyola has always been shy about putting its wallet where it's sports ambitions are. A token amount of aid to say you offered something is not enough to entice blue collar, working class families to forgo free public or bigger spending (and usually cheaper) privates. 



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Posted 02 December 2016 - 03:38 PM

If it were as easy as the head coach recruiting they would not be looking at their 6th (think) consequtive losing season. The coaches there, both Abbott and Hall, recruited, but there is a handoff after you identify a boy who is a good football player that needs to be supported by financial aid, and some acedemic, social, and cultural support at the school. Too often the boys brought into play football feel like the whole burden of a turnaround is on their shoulders. The pressure to succeed academically is hard enough, to be the torch bearer for a "turnaround" is too much for some, who may not be the same boy at 18 as they were at 14. 

 

The problem is not just football. Basketball suffers in the same way. One or two ringers obviously there for sports can not turn around the competitive balance issue the school is facing. And Loyola has always been shy about putting its wallet where it's sports ambitions are. A token amount of aid to say you offered something is not enough to entice blue collar, working class families to forgo free public or bigger spending (and usually cheaper) privates. 

Regarding numbers its all about reaching critical mass and leadership. If you never reach critical mass or don't have inspirational leadership, you don't succeed and the entire Program fails. That's what has happened over the past five years at LB. I'm not sure you need a core of 22 because even Gilman and MCD have had 5-6 players go both ways. The critical ingredient is no glaring weaknesses. All it takes is one Achilles heel and the entire scheme crumbles. Players start compensating and not trusting each other and the team concept evaporates. 

 

You need 8 billeted slots per year. To get to that number you probably have to actively recruit 20-30 qualified candidates per class. Admissions and the leadership of the School have to be on board. You may need to stretch 2 full rides over those 8 players creatively. One or two academic stretches per year and only to high character kids and families because if you start accepting kids that don't meet the academic thresholds you will lose the faculty and administration. No bad apples character wise. Vet the heck out of the kids. Basketball is much easier because all you need is 3-4 top flight recruits partnered with some great home grown role players and you're very competitive. You need some bigs and a great backcourt and you're in business. 


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Posted 02 December 2016 - 03:40 PM

But don't hold them to a standard to high or they will transfer
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Posted 02 December 2016 - 03:47 PM

But don't hold them to a standard to high or they will transfer

If the median matches the lower third of their class, you'll be fine. Every football class should have some academic superstars and every kid in the Program should be a "saint" in the classroom. What I mean is perfect attendance, homework and tutoring sessions. Its more about attitude and effort than academic aptitude. Remember, most football players want to start and star. A good coaching staff uses that carrott to incent the right type of behavior. All it takes is for one superstar to get benched for grades, behavior or attitude and the message will be received (if delivered diplomatically and fairly) and disseminated.  


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Posted 02 December 2016 - 03:49 PM

If the median matches the lower third of their class, you'll be fine. Every football class should have some academic superstars and every kid in the Program should be a "saint" in the classroom. What I mean is perfect attendance, homework and tutoring sessions. Its more about attitude and effort than academic aptitude.

Which is funny because if that same mentality applied then kids would stay at the schools they start at instead of hoping for easier I mean greener pastures

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Posted 02 December 2016 - 04:04 PM

But don't hold them to a standard to high or they will transfer



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Posted 02 December 2016 - 04:04 PM

What do you think is to high of a standard?

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Posted 02 December 2016 - 04:07 PM

Which is funny because if that same mentality applied then kids would stay at the schools they start at instead of hoping for easier I mean greener pastures

In a great program you hate balance not all of something

That would assume all schools were equal academically and athletically (coaches, facilities, exposure), etc. They're not. For example in the MIAA, Biff bought himself a great football program by partnering with a great academic high school and giving $$ to top recruits however usually in either middle school or in 9th grade. MCD has a more diversified approach: More indigenous kids, transfers (10th grade is a common entry grade) coupled with the normal multi sport 9th great recruits. Clearly they have the resources, academic and athletic reputation and resources to compete for any recruit.

 

Spalding, who was the second best team in the League this year, is a better role model for LB. Hire a dynamic and charismatic head coach and work really hard at recruiting tough football players. If you look at their line, they didn't have three or four star recruits but what I saw were 4-5 very solid strong high school linemen that drove every defense in the Conference off of the ball. They had a tough fast former wrestler as their QB (they've done well cherry picking the wrestling program) and have some fast tough (some undersized) kids in the secondary and backfield. Great coaching plus enough tough kids who love football and you win.Its that simple folks. Great coaches with enough administrative support turn programs around!



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Posted 02 December 2016 - 04:09 PM

What do you think is to high of a standard?

Just making an observation as some critique programs about what shoul/shouldn't be done
Some of those that are being critical ran from program A to program B because they couldn't meet the standards that initially they committed to
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Posted 02 December 2016 - 04:17 PM

Mop
The equation you listed does not=wins
Some of the programs have those things and still fail
Hell look at MCD my preseason fav
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Posted 02 December 2016 - 05:01 PM

That would assume all schools were equal academically and athletically (coaches, facilities, exposure), etc. They're not. For example in the MIAA, Biff bought himself a great football program by partnering with a great academic high school and giving $$ to top recruits however usually in either middle school or in 9th grade. MCD has a more diversified approach: More indigenous kids, transfers (10th grade is a common entry grade) coupled with the normal multi sport 9th great recruits. Clearly they have the resources, academic and athletic reputation and resources to compete for any recruit.

Spalding, who was the second best team in the League this year, is a better role model for LB. Hire a dynamic and charismatic head coach and work really hard at recruiting tough football players. If you look at their line, they didn't have three or four star recruits but what I saw were 4-5 very solid strong high school linemen that drove every defense in the Conference off of the ball. They had a tough fast former wrestler as their QB (they've done well cherry picking the wrestling program) and have some fast tough (some undersized) kids in the secondary and backfield. Great coaching plus enough tough kids who love football and you win.Its that simple folks. Great coaches with enough administrative support turn programs around!


Spalding is 5k cheaper and is the only shop in town really in Arundel coupled with the type of kids that naturally funnel into the school (thick stacked, hard working families)

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Posted 02 December 2016 - 05:03 PM

Mop
The equation you listed does not=wins
Some of the programs have those things and still fail
Hell look at MCD my preseason fav

Haha, we're talking about making LB competitive, not winning the League. Baby steps my man. 

 

MCD had some "holes" this past year that they corrected by year end. More schematic in my opinion but sometimes schemes are dictated by your view of personnel. There is nothing wrong with MCD's approach. They have a great system and it works extremely well. 


Edited by mop, 02 December 2016 - 05:06 PM.


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Posted 02 December 2016 - 05:06 PM

Spalding is 5k cheaper and is the only shop in town really in Arundel coupled with the type of kids that naturally funnel into the school (thick stacked, hard working families)

Those type of kids used to attend LB. Seriously. The School may have priced themselves out (more by remaining small and not spreading fixed costs over a larger student population) of the working class' pocketbook. I keep coming back to management and leadership. It starts at the top (Board, President). When you lose your free labor (the Jesuits), you needed to change your model. IMHO, this is a failure of basic brand management and budgeting. 


Edited by mop, 02 December 2016 - 05:13 PM.





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