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#41 DayWalker

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Posted 28 December 2016 - 10:13 AM

Dundalk beat Franklin two years ago in the state semis.

 

But lost to Damascus and thus didn't close the deal.  Dundalk I believe beat Franklin in the regular season but lost to Franklin in the playoff one season and again did not close the deal.  Dundalk should be more concerned about Franklin and other publics than a single "bragging rights" game against Calvert.....


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#42 DayWalker

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Posted 28 December 2016 - 10:22 AM

Anyway. Good matchup between CHC and Dundalk. Kids know each other, a few CHC kids live near Dundalk.

 

Table this for now MT.  I'd rather hear about the Illinois championship game that ended up in court for a judge to decide the winner.  Do tell and how we should be like your IL....



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Posted 28 December 2016 - 11:16 AM

Table this for now MT. I'd rather hear about the Illinois championship game that ended up in court for a judge to decide the winner. Do tell and how we should be like your IL....


It was the refs who messed up. Happens even in college. Call stands. You ok? Reading is really easy.

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Posted 28 December 2016 - 11:39 AM

It was the refs who messed up. Happens even in college. Call stands. You ok? Reading is really easy.

 

Of course refs mess up, even in college and the NFL.  But your Illinois high school game ended up in court did it not for a freakin' judge to say the call stands.  Does that happen everywhere coach and even here!  Reading is really easy for those who can and not for those who can't but prospective may not be so easy in your Illinois.  They seem to have an issue keeping things in proper perspective back home...  And you want MD to be like your IL.



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Posted 28 December 2016 - 01:11 PM

Schools and individuals go to court everyday for things people see as idiotic, that just got to the news. People with little background knowledge and broad experiences are hard to have conversations outside their scope of understanding. Teams playing each other early on in intriguing matchups is good for the sport. Warm weather, good games, bring people to the game. If I was mppsaa, I would set these games up as revenue getters.

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Posted 28 December 2016 - 01:48 PM

Exactly....the pros make money off their players... Colleges and Universities make money off the students....why not the high school organizations make money off high school kids???

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Posted 28 December 2016 - 01:50 PM

Oh well...

#48 Maroontiger419

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Posted 28 December 2016 - 02:12 PM

Exactly....the pros make money off their players... Colleges and Universities make money off the students....why not the high school organizations make money off high school kids???


More revenue benefits kids. Sports aren't free. Tv isn't free, marketing isn't free, an admin staff isn't free. Most states have very complex state orgs because it benefits the kids with great events and amenities

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Posted 28 December 2016 - 02:21 PM

More revenue benefits kids. Sports aren't free. Tv isn't free, marketing isn't free, an admin staff isn't free. Most states have very complex state orgs because it benefits the kids with great events and amenities


Yup!! That's what they said about the Maryland casinos....it will generate more funding for the public schools. Look at all the money the schools are getting....yeah....right...

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Posted 28 December 2016 - 02:21 PM

Schools and individuals go to court everyday for things people see as idiotic, that just got to the news. People with little background knowledge and broad experiences are hard to have conversations outside their scope of understanding. Teams playing each other early on in intriguing matchups is good for the sport. Warm weather, good games, bring people to the game. If I was mppsaa, I would set these games up as revenue getters.

 

Dog bites man doesn't make news.  Man bites dogs, now that's news worthy.  It wasn't just some slow news day in Illinois that caused that silly @zz issue to make the news but rather the silly @zz nature of the silly @zz Illinois high school football event that made it news worthy much like the Gilman blowup sex doll matter or the Terps featuring former DeMatha players pop a pellet, paint ball, or whatever matter made the news.

 

And yes MT, intriguing matchups are good.  But you seem to think it has to be between a public and private; that private on private games are all naturally competitive and intriguing followed by any of your private teams against the better publics.  I've seen your marquee games like DeMatha vs Gonzaga when Gonzaga whipped the Stags @zz at PG Sports and Learning with a national ESPN audience and your lot boasting of the 5,000 capacity attendance when a 1/4 of the stadium was empty.  And I've seen that venue at real overflow turn away capacity of 10,000 over two days to see PG public 2A/3A teams take on PG 4A teams with 2A DouglassPG and 4A Wise as the marquee games.  Sport, the MPSSAA does not own regular season games like the playoffs so they can't set up jack for revenue.  The schools own regular season games.

 

Like I illustrated to you and your lot once before, a game of the week vote between Friendly and Douglass, DeMatha and Good Counsel, and another game was done a couple years ago and the Douglass / Friendly contest beat out DeMatha and Good Counsel.  Pit DeMatha - SFA against Wise - Damascus today and I'd say you would come up short on the more appealing contest.


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Posted 28 December 2016 - 02:30 PM

More revenue benefits kids. Sports aren't free. Tv isn't free, marketing isn't free, an admin staff isn't free. Most states have very complex state orgs because it benefits the kids with great events and amenities

 

The #1 football team in Maryland, private DeMatha, has a great football venue amenity, a Maryland Public Park venue called the PG County Sports and Learning Center.  Fort Hill had a game cancelled on them against Curley because it rained too much for their stellar amenity and even if the game had proceeded, Fort Hill was told not to bring their band and other entities they routinely travel with because Curely couldn't accommodate them or their parking needs.


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Posted 28 December 2016 - 02:35 PM

Curley has since put in a turf field. That game could have never been played on the previous field, it was horrible

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Posted 28 December 2016 - 02:44 PM

Was parking added to accommodate Fort Hill's entourage or would they still be asked not to bring their band or other services...



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Posted 28 December 2016 - 02:45 PM

The #1 football team in Maryland, private DeMatha, has a great football venue amenity, a Maryland Public Park venue called the PG County Sports and Learning Center. Fort Hill had a game cancelled on them against Curley because it rained too much for their stellar amenity and even if the game had proceeded, Fort Hill was told not to bring their band and other entities they routinely travel with because Curely couldn't accommodate them or their parking needs.


I was referencing state associations. I've coached public and private ball. I played high school on both. Football is my ball and I would love to see regular public matchups of like North Point vs Howard, Old Mill v Suitland, HD Woodson vs Wise or Douglass.

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Posted 28 December 2016 - 03:27 PM

Was parking added to accommodate Fort Hill's entourage or would they still be asked not to bring their band or other services...


They usually park the buses at the top of the field, which is also grass. Also bc of the rain they would have had to move the game to 3pm bc of daylight. This is pretty much the same time school lets out. So with logistics of parents picking up students and the influx of oversized vehicles from FH, that is the reason they could not accomodate them at that time.

This was gone over at nauseum at the time, but its an easy dig on a private school, so of course you took the opportunity

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Posted 28 December 2016 - 03:29 PM

They usually park the buses at the top of the field, which is also grass. Also bc of the rain they would have had to move the game to 3pm bc of daylight. This is pretty much the same time school lets out. So with logistics of parents picking up students and the influx of oversized vehicles from FH, that is the reason they could not accomodate them at that time.

This was gone over at nauseum at the time, but its an easy dig on a private school, so of course you took the opportunity


Public schools have the same issues with facilities. I guess we assume private schools are ALL flush with cash and resources. To frame private schools as all the same or even public schools as all the same is foolish at minimum, ignorant as hell in all honesty. Nuance is easy to really get.

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Posted 28 December 2016 - 04:09 PM

They usually park the buses at the top of the field, which is also grass. Also bc of the rain they would have had to move the game to 3pm bc of daylight. This is pretty much the same time school lets out. So with logistics of parents picking up students and the influx of oversized vehicles from FH, that is the reason they could not accomodate them at that time.

This was gone over at nauseum at the time, but its an easy dig on a private school, so of course you took the opportunity

 

But the dialog is about all the great amenities afforded the privates with it's sports revenue generating ventures like it's across the board.  The same goes for the private play like it's DeMatha most or every where within the private ranks.  But that is NOT the case.  That's my dig so to speak as you call it and not so specifically about Curely although I do believe lil 1A Fort Hill was willing to host the game at Greenway where they have field turf and lights and I even understand Fort Hill was willing to supplement Curely's travel to Cumberland.  But it was a hard NO from Curely to Fort Hill who were willing to bend over backwards for the opportunity to kick off in Curely's @zz as The Sentinels typically do in such a nice accommodating manner.....  :P


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Posted 28 December 2016 - 04:21 PM

Public schools have the same issues with facilities. I guess we assume private schools are ALL flush with cash and resources. To frame private schools as all the same or even public schools as all the same is foolish at minimum, ignorant as hell in all honesty. Nuance is easy to really get.

 

Exactly and my prime argument!!!!!  The privates are NOT the same the across the board -- top to bottom, in team talent and amenities.  You have a couple top flights teams, some mediocre teams, and then the  Loyola / Arch Carroll doormats - bottom feeders.  We already know and accept this of the publics.  It just that your top teams are the usual suspects year in and year out.  But with the publics like I always quote Forest Gump, "...Life is Like a Box of Chocolates..." just the way The DayWalker likes it.



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Posted 29 December 2016 - 05:23 AM

I was referencing state associations. I've coached public and private ball. I played high school on both. Football is my ball and I would love to see regular public matchups of like North Point vs Howard, Old Mill v Suitland, HD Woodson vs Wise or Douglass.

 

North Point, Howard, Old Mill, Suitland. Woodson, Wise, and Douglass I believe all played at least 10 games last season.  Tell me MTiger and on your honor and word, how many games of these teams "in-person" did you attend last year?  For me, except for Woodson I have seen all the other teams at least once and one team twice.  You?????  :rolleyes:



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Posted 29 December 2016 - 07:28 AM

North Point, Howard, Old Mill, Suitland. Woodson, Wise, and Douglass I believe all played at least 10 games last season. Tell me MTiger and on your honor and word, how many games of these teams "in-person" did you attend last year? For me, except for Woodson I have seen all the other teams at least once and one team twice. You????? :rolleyes:


I've seen Wise, Oxon Hill, Roosevelt, Howard, Annapolis, Reg Lewis and at least a half dozen others play last year. My Friday nights are usually booked because I coach. What does that even matter? No one has to authenticate their interest in football to you. I know it's fun being the ante-whatever, but being oppositional for the sake of it seems like a odd way to waste energy.




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