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#41 grggngll

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Posted 17 February 2017 - 07:53 AM

Depends on the metric(s).

The only "crash" that rivals what happened during the Great Recession during Obama Admin, was the Great Depression, from 1929-1939.

At the start of the Great Depression, the unemployment rate in the US was about 5%. It did not return to that level until about 1942, or 13 years after the start of the GD.

When Obama took office in 2009, the unemployment was nearly at 10% that year. When he left office 8 years latter, it was 4.8%.


That's one metric. Here are 12 other economic metrics used by economists:

https://www.bloomber...ecord-stacks-up

Summary -

"Obama comes in eighth out of the 12 other Presidents, but still records a positive score, indicating a roughly average performance. That is based on six full years of his record, from 2010 to 2016. (This analysis leaves two years to go, because I allowed one year for the effects from the previous administration to subside -- more on that later.)

That is not a stunning performance, but it is a major improvement over that of his predecessor, George W. Bush, whose economic score was significantly lower than even Jimmy Carter’s. Rest assured, in this analysis a president’s score takes into account what he inherited and what he left behind. That’s one reality that both benefited and hampered Ronald Reagan’s and Obama’s scores."

Bottom line for Obama: Not the worst President, and not the best.

 

Surely depends on the metrics, is that why you are cherry picking the unemployment number?  That number is already discredited.



#42 georjec2

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Posted 17 February 2017 - 07:58 AM

They already did minus the oath, because well we all know that leftists lie so there would not be a purpose to adding that in there.


Did Donald Trump lie at his press conference yesterday when he said he had record electoral college votes and when he was told Obama's votes were higher and Trump said "among republicans" was that a lie?
You didn't see or hear that part or is it just to inconvenient to recall?

Fake news articles are using the word "meltdown" to describe how your boy is doing so far.
How do you describe him?
Never mind.
:)

#43 grggngll

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Posted 17 February 2017 - 08:00 AM

My guy chickened out.



#44 georjec2

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Posted 17 February 2017 - 08:03 AM

Surely depends on the metrics, is that why you are cherry picking the unemployment number? That number is already discredited.


What are the "metrics" of 2 MILLION JOBS lost under George(where is he when you need him) Bush when Obama came into office.
Can you discuss that with us?
Did Mr.Trump inherit anything like that Or...is he just lying again.
'What mess'he inherited he failed to say.
Like you fail to say.

#45 georjec2

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Posted 17 February 2017 - 08:04 AM

My guy chickened out.

Your guy?

#46 Papi

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Posted 17 February 2017 - 08:21 AM

Wow.

Time to put the big-boy pants on Donny, and grow a pair.

http://www.cnn.com/2...tory/index.html

Nobody like a whiner.

Seems to me that early on in the Obama administration there were comments made from the White House about the mess he had inherited from Bush. 

 

But of couse, that's different.... that was not whining....

:lol: 



#47 soulflower

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Posted 17 February 2017 - 08:31 AM

Seems to me that early on in the Obama administration there were comments made from the White House about the mess he had inherited from Bush.

But of couse, that's different.... that was not whining....
:lol:


Obama inherited quite a mess from Bush there's no one who seriously disputes that

When Trump says he inherited a mess from Obama, no one really knows what specifically he's referring to
"...reality has a well-known liberal bias"

#48 Sprightly

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Posted 17 February 2017 - 08:35 AM

I don't want to hear any elected president whine about what he/she inherited.  That includes Obama. That includes Trump. They knew what they were getting.


To forgive is to set a prisoner free and discover the prisoner was you.

#49 gonzoliberal

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Posted 17 February 2017 - 08:37 AM

I don't want to hear any elected president whine about what he/she inherited.  That includes Obama. That includes Trump. They knew what they were getting.

 

Odd comment, considering the words above your avatar.



#50 ms maggie

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Posted 17 February 2017 - 08:37 AM

I don't want to hear any elected president whine about what he/she inherited. That includes Obama. That includes Trump. They knew what they were getting.


More false equivalency.

Obama did inherit a mess. Trump didn't. But he'll create one, no doubt.

#51 mrsmlh

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Posted 17 February 2017 - 08:38 AM

All Obama had to do was everything the Republicans wanted and it would have been a wonderful 8 years but Noooooo, he had to act like he was elected...twice!
What else could they do but hold the country hostage.
They had to swear an oath to stop him. It was for the good of the country.

 

Yep, you summed up the thoughts of the right wingers perfectly!  



#52 Sprightly

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Posted 17 February 2017 - 08:40 AM

Odd comment, considering the words above your avatar.

 

Really? You think I'm trying to quell their free speech? Don't act dumb.


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#53 gonzoliberal

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Posted 17 February 2017 - 08:42 AM

Really? You think I'm trying to quell their free speech? Don't act dumb.

 

Actually, it was your comment that you 'didn't want to hear' things that you didn't like.

 

Is my 'act' THAT good?



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Posted 17 February 2017 - 08:42 AM

More false equivalency.

Obama did inherit a mess. Trump didn't. But he'll create one, no doubt.

 

There was not "false equivalency."  I realize that everything was darn near perfect before Trump was elected, but I still don't want to hear him, Obama, Reagan, Clinton or any of them whine about what they may or may not have "inherited."


Edited by Sprightly, 17 February 2017 - 08:42 AM.

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Posted 17 February 2017 - 08:43 AM

I don't want to hear any elected president whine about what he/she inherited.  That includes Obama. That includes Trump. They knew what they were getting.

Exactly. Talking about it is not "whining" no matter who says it. Part of the reason for running is to address the perceived "mess" the other party has created in the prior administration, either via policy, legislation, or both. Whether one perceives the prior administration as having been a "mess" or not depends mainly on policy perspectives.

 

One might have a discussion about the degree of a "mess' that needs to be addressed, or in which areas of governance the "mess' exists, but when the party of the administrations change there is always going to be some degree of this. It is normal. 



#56 Sprightly

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Posted 17 February 2017 - 08:43 AM

Actually, it was your comment that you 'didn't want to hear' things that you didn't like.

 

Is my 'act' THAT good?

 

No, I don't want the POTUS to whine about his/her lot in life. When did I give up my right to say that I don't want to hear it?


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#57 gonzoliberal

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Posted 17 February 2017 - 08:44 AM

No, I don't want the POTUS to whine about his/her lot in life. When did I give up my right to say that I don't want to hear it?

 

 

Wasn't aware you did.



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Posted 17 February 2017 - 08:45 AM

Wasn't aware you did.

 

Then what in the heck are you talking about?


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#59 ms maggie

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Posted 17 February 2017 - 08:48 AM

There was not "false equivalency." I realize that everything was darn near perfect before Trump was elected, but I still don't want to hear him, Obama, Reagan, Clinton or any of them whine about what they may or may not have "inherited."


No. You can't comment negatively on Trump without making a reference to "similar" bad behavior from Obama or Clinton.

And things weren't perfect before Trump was elected. They were a damn sight better than when Obama took office.

And a damn sight better than now, in that we didn't have a complete fool in charge.

#60 gonzoliberal

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Posted 17 February 2017 - 08:48 AM

Then what in the heck are you talking about?

 

Merely the difference between what you say you respect above your avatar, and what you appear to respect in your post.

 

You make it sound (I don't want to hear...) like the Preznit has no right to opine.

 

...yet you defend your own right to do so.

 

Just a little ribbing with coffee...






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