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Barack Obama Ranked 12th Best U.S. President Ever in Major Survey of Historians


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#1 naive

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Posted 17 February 2017 - 01:06 PM

Barack Obama has been whisked to a very good table at the club of former presidents, according to a C-SPAN survey of 91 presidential historians published on Friday. Obama’s 12th-place ranking only a month after leaving office is the best for any president since Ronald Reagan, who ranks ninth in the new survey. The list updates previous C-SPAN surveys compiled in 2009 and 2000.

Historians gave Obama high marks for pursuing equality, managing the economy, public persuasion and “moral authority.” On the other hand, he was judged to have been below-average in handling international relations. Overall, he placed ahead of such generally well-regarded chief executives as James Monroe and James Polk.

 

https://www.yahoo.co...-144659600.html

 

I would imagine he will only go up from here, but 12th is not a bad place to start.

 

complete list:

 

https://www.c-span.o...7/?page=overall

 

Side note: George Bush moved up 3 spots from 36 to 33!

 

Poppa Bush dropped 2 from 18 to 20.


Edited by naive, 17 February 2017 - 01:07 PM.


#2 FourTwenty

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Posted 17 February 2017 - 01:07 PM

He's gonna look even better once history recognizes him to be sandwiched between two of the worst Presidents ever.



#3 SmarterThanYou

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Posted 17 February 2017 - 01:07 PM

Oh, boy are you gonna anger some righty's with this one.

This is way counter to what those fake news sources like Breitbart are saying...

Edited by SmarterThanYou, 17 February 2017 - 01:09 PM.


#4 Marshan Man

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Posted 17 February 2017 - 01:08 PM

Good point. 4:20.


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#5 ivanbalt

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Posted 17 February 2017 - 01:09 PM

The Van Buren Boys aren't going to like these rankings.



#6 michiganjoe

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Posted 17 February 2017 - 01:10 PM

A little premature for any judgment. Republicans are still working to destroy the legacy of FDR and they'll work diligently to do the same with Obama.



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Posted 17 February 2017 - 01:12 PM

How bad were Tyler, Harding, Pierce, Johnson and Buchanan that they rank behind the guy that was president for 41 days, and had pneumonia the whole time?

 

And, did something happen in the last 17 years that made Wilson drop five spots?  Or Ike move up four?


Edited by Thirteen, 17 February 2017 - 01:14 PM.


#8 bmorepunk

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Posted 17 February 2017 - 01:42 PM

How bad were Tyler, Harding, Pierce, Johnson and Buchanan that they rank behind the guy that was president for 41 days, and had pneumonia the whole time?

And, did something happen in the last 17 years that made Wilson drop five spots? Or Ike move up four?


Those guys were amazingly bad. A few months ago I would have said it was hard to see someone in modern times with that level of bad, but it seems like the current President may be trying to get himself into that company.

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Posted 17 February 2017 - 02:11 PM

Trump bump. No doubt the Bush's are drinking champagne.


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Posted 17 February 2017 - 04:02 PM

God Bless President Donald Trump and all his upcoming SCOTUS appointments. 

 

May they uphold the country's conservative values for the next 30+ years and rid us of the scourge of contemptible liberalism.



#11 Gertrude

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Posted 17 February 2017 - 06:10 PM

God Bless President Donald Trump and all his upcoming SCOTUS appointments.

May they uphold the country's conservative values for the next 30+ years and rid us of the scourge of contemptible liberalism.

What a digusting thing to say. Democrats will likely control the Senate in two years so the courts might not get destroyed.

#12 Heisenberg

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Posted 17 February 2017 - 06:41 PM

What a digusting thing to say. Democrats will likely control the Senate in two years so the courts might not get destroyed.

No they won't.

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Posted 17 February 2017 - 06:49 PM

He's gonna look even better once history recognizes him to be sandwiched between two of the worst Presidents ever.

No, that will only create the illusion of him being better than he was.

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Posted 18 February 2017 - 09:22 PM

First off Trump only has one appointment. Second I suspect he is more liberal than some think particularly on social issues. Finally Ike probably moved up becuase of the increased value of the interstates and his tax policy which kept money here. Wilson drops every time someone realizes his bigotry.
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Posted 18 February 2017 - 09:48 PM

First off Trump only has one appointment. Second I suspect he is more liberal than some think particularly on social issues. Finally Ike probably moved up becuase of the increased value of the interstates and his tax policy which kept money here. Wilson drops every time someone realizes his bigotry.

Trump is not the nominee, but his pick is top notch, so it doesn't matter where "Donny" stands.


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#16 SmarterThanYou

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Posted 18 February 2017 - 10:03 PM

Trump is not the nominee, but his pick is top notch, so it doesn't matter where "Donny" stands.


"Top notch" is relative.

I find it kind of interesting that legal decisions, which one would think should be straight forward based on the law, cut and dry, usually fall along political/social ideology. More than not SC decisions are rarely unanimous.

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Posted 18 February 2017 - 10:46 PM

Trump is not the nominee, but his pick is top notch, so it doesn't matter where "Donny" stands.

Garland was top-notched and should have been given proper advice and consent but the GOP Senators refused to honor their roles in the Constitution.



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Posted 18 February 2017 - 11:35 PM

Which is amusing, especially considering we have right wingers on another thread sniveling that he had no business even being in the race.  :cool:


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Posted 19 February 2017 - 12:22 AM

Oh, boy are you gonna anger some righty's with this one.

This is way counter to what those fake news sources like Breitbart are saying...

I don't understand how they rated them, but it doesn't seem as partisan as you would expect from professors of the humanities.  I would have expected Jackson near the bottom for his Trail of Tears.  Lincoln arguably violated the Constitution.  And they seem fair to Reagan.  


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Posted 19 February 2017 - 06:09 AM

What a digusting thing to say. Democrats will likely control the Senate in two years so the courts might not get destroyed.

 

Delusional.  Dems will lose Senate seats in 2018, and may even give the Republicans a 60-vote filibuster majority.






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