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#1 CROUSEMAN

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Posted 18 February 2017 - 09:45 AM

More back spasms for the last couple weeks.  This is definitely his last year in Baltimore.  No way he gets those 600 PAs to get the 2018 option to kick in.  Perfect excuse now to rest him once or twice a week if he makes it back.

I do hope he makes it back for opening day.  We are a better team when he is healthy and playing.  What I don't want is what we saw in 2015 where he floundered around all year with an injury and was basically useless at the plate.



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Posted 18 February 2017 - 09:53 AM

More back spasms for the last couple weeks.  This is definitely his last year in Baltimore.  No way he gets those 600 PAs to get the 2018 option to kick in.  Perfect excuse now to rest him once or twice a week if he makes it back.
I do hope he makes it back for opening day.  We are a better team when he is healthy and playing.  What I don't want is what we saw in 2015 where he floundered around all year with an injury and was basically useless at the plate.

It is a catch 22. Having an unproductive Hardy getto 600 AB's hurts the team, but Buck's backup plan is Ryan Flaherty.

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Posted 18 February 2017 - 09:59 AM

It is a catch 22. Having an unproductive Hardy getto 600 AB's hurts the team, but Buck's backup plan is Ryan Flaherty.

 

Yeah I agree.  But now it makes sense why DD has signed 3 infielders the last couple weeks that have ML experience.  He knew Hardy's back was hosed.  If you have had spasms for a couple weeks, there is something definitely wrong.  Hello Flash and Chris Johnson platooning at third.  Tingles.

 

I wish Schoop could play a decent third base.  Gioveltella would be ok at second as a fill in.  Schoops bat and skill set project better at third than at second.  But I think he was a butcher at third when he played there before.



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Posted 18 February 2017 - 10:03 AM

.295 RISP
.278 RISP W2OUTS
.375 bases loaded

Thats some pretty good floundering
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Posted 18 February 2017 - 10:06 AM

.295 RISP
.278 RISP W2OUTS
.375 bases loaded

Thats some pretty good floundering

 

I'm talking 2015.  Didn't he hit a weak .215 that year with a dreadful OBP???? And zero power.



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Posted 18 February 2017 - 10:58 AM

I'm talking 2015. Didn't he hit a weak .215 that year with a dreadful OBP???? And zero power.

My bad i missed the 2015 part lol
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Posted 18 February 2017 - 11:20 AM

Yeah I agree.  But now it makes sense why DD has signed 3 infielders the last couple weeks that have ML experience.  He knew Hardy's back was hosed.  If you have had spasms for a couple weeks, there is something definitely wrong.  Hello Flash and Chris Johnson platooning at third.  Tingles.

 

I wish Schoop could play a decent third base.  Gioveltella would be ok at second as a fill in.  Schoops bat and skill set project better at third than at second.  But I think he was a butcher at third when he played there before.

Especially when you have back issues... in the off season. 



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Posted 19 February 2017 - 10:18 AM

.295 RISP
.278 RISP W2OUTS
.375 bases loaded

Thats some pretty good floundering

 

While this post was off base on what I said about 2015, its still a good one.  Because it shows how solid Hardy was with the bat last year.  Yeah his OBP still wasn't great,  but he had a good year at the plate.  And he is still very good with the glove.  Point being we need him to play 120-130 games at SS to compete this year. Having to play Flash and Johnson at third for a long stretch  while Manny shifts to SS won't get it done, IMO.



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Posted 19 February 2017 - 10:33 AM

Hardy with clean MRI.  Good news.



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Posted 19 February 2017 - 10:59 PM

Yeah I agree. But now it makes sense why DD has signed 3 infielders the last couple weeks that have ML experience. He knew Hardy's back was hosed.


Lol. ?????

You're giving Big Dan credit?

Hahaha, he had Gallardo, Jiminez and Miley on his "pitching staff" (easily the worst in MLB) & he failed to trade Wieters when he had any value. The guy is a joke and an embarassment.

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Posted 19 February 2017 - 11:34 PM

What value he is still out there
He's about as valuable as this post
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Posted 20 February 2017 - 09:49 AM

Lol. ?????

You're giving Big Dan credit?

Hahaha, he had Gallardo, Jiminez and Miley on his "pitching staff" (easily the worst in MLB) & he failed to trade Wieters when he had any value. The guy is a joke and an embarassment.

 

No credit given for signing three mediocre guys.  Just a statement on why he did it.  Seemed curious at time why sign all these older guys to hog up time at AAA.



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Posted 20 February 2017 - 09:53 AM

What value he is still out there
He's about as valuable as this post

 

We'll see if Hardy can actually play even with a clean MRI.  Last time the O's said he wasn't really hurt was spring of 2015.  And he missed 2 months or so and was worthless when he came back.  This situation is still wait and see.



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Posted 20 February 2017 - 10:16 AM

No credit given for signing three mediocre guys.  Just a statement on why he did it.  Seemed curious at time why sign all these older guys to hog up time at AAA.

 

 

Lol. ?????

You're giving Big Dan credit?

Hahaha, he had Gallardo, Jiminez and Miley on his "pitching staff" (easily the worst in MLB) & he failed to trade Wieters when he had any value. The guy is a joke and an embarassment.

 

 

No credit given for signing three mediocre guys.  Just a statement on why he did it.  Seemed curious at time why sign all these older guys to hog up time at AAA.

 

Actually DD should be criticized for not having any viable infield replacements in the system already.  I may be wrong, but AA/AAA seems barren of middle infield prospects that could step in and play.



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Posted 20 February 2017 - 01:36 PM

We'll see if Hardy can actually play even with a clean MRI. Last time the O's said he wasn't really hurt was spring of 2015. And he missed 2 months or so and was worthless when he came back. This situation is still wait and see.


I fear Flaherty will get the call at third with Machado at short.

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Posted 03 March 2017 - 11:23 AM

Why is Flaherty still on the team.



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Posted 03 March 2017 - 11:42 AM

looking at USA SPORTS WEEKLY  there are plenty of lead off hitters available that can steal bases in the minors.Some of these guys are blocked from coming to the majors.



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Posted 03 March 2017 - 11:49 AM

Why is Flaherty still on the team.

He's a super utility player, which is actually a rare thing. He's not much of a hitter, we all know that. And if he was, he wouldn't be a back up, he'd be a starter somewhere. I value RF for what he gives the team. But he isn't a long term replacement for anyone. 


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Posted 03 March 2017 - 11:52 AM

I never like putting an easy out in the line up.



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Posted 03 March 2017 - 11:53 AM

Why is Flaherty still on the team.

 

I used to be quite anti-Flaherty, but I've changed.

 

He can't hit well, but the guy has played seven positions (all but CF & C) off the bench in his career.  That's a good guy to have around. 

 

As long as he's not out there every day for extended periods, he is actually an asset.






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