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Never said I was a coach and nobody calling out a kid. Just giving an opinion like everyone else on this forum. You have right to disagree. I know football and don't see him as high caliber player. Never seen the kid at a single football combine and I'm at a lot. I wonder why. Could be good opportunity for the kid to show his athleticism. Like I said initially king d is good athlete and I have no bad will towards him. I'm sure he's a great kid. But coaches and parents on here taunting him like the ultimate athlete and a reclass is at that is comical. Sounds like heck if a lax player but we'll c next year how good he is on the football field if he even plays.

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Never said I was a coach and nobody calling out a kid. Just giving an opinion like everyone else on this forum. You have right to disagree. I know football and don't see him as high caliber player. Never seen the kid at a single football combine and I'm at a lot. I wonder why. Could be good opportunity for the kid to show his athleticism. Like I said initially king d is good athlete and I have no bad will towards him. I'm sure he's a great kid. But coaches and parents on here taunting him like the ultimate athlete and a reclass is at that is comical. Sounds like heck if a lax player but we'll c next year how good he is on the football field if he even plays.

First, I'm not sure you know this game. I've had to square up against this kid multiple times in youth. Not fun. So you can't be good if you don't combine....don't kids combine in their junior year? Or are you talking about the money making deals I see around here like the gyfl? You said you scouted for McDonogh. I know a guy on staff there and he says the staff is tight. I don't think Dom would be letting a random guy make his scouting reports for him!

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50you need to direct your calling out of people to Tiger. All of this started with him calling out people and he is a coach

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Sorry, DLow your quote, "Watched CHC play several times scouting and kid didn't play much but when he did I say average." led me to believe you were a coach associated with the program.  By "scout" you meant watch the game with an emphasis in watching one kid on the field?

You also used the term "we" which implied, to me, that you had a real affiliation and just weren't a parent in the stands, which is what it sounds like now.

 

My bad

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Calvert Hall's game vs the Hill Academy (Canada) was cancelled today due to a frozen fiield. The Cardinals face Malvern Prep (PA) on 3/21/17.

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Thanks Guru.  I really wanted to see how the Hill did against the Cards.  I follow The Hill Academy on social media and they have an outstanding athletic program.

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Supposed to play Loyola on Saturday

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i should say it's rare that it happens in middle school for athletic reasons. Many parents do it for boys at a younger age, I doubt anyone is predicting future athletic ability at that point.

I think this comment is somewhat naive. LAX rivals (might be worse) AAU basketball  in that we have kids doing pre-kindergarten (the privates way of getting them older) and then repeating 6th grade. We also have parents home schooling kids and then reclassifying them when they enroll in HS. I have had children play sports at 2 MIAA schools (an A and a B School) and I can name player after player that has re classed (and that covers many sports). When one of my sons was interviewing with an MIAA school, I asked about their opinion on this practice and the head of admittance indicated (and I quote) "we all want to win". When the schools have that thought process, you have an uphill battle to create a fair playing field for the students. Pmore, I would leave you with this question...why do you think LAX and AAU Hoops both went to "grade" levels of play instead of age group levels. It was a strategic effort to deal with the re classing.    

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AAU incorporates both age and grade in their rules. See below:

 

http://www.aauboysbasketball.org/Rules-Articles/ArtMID/3766/ArticleID/42964/AAU-Boys-Basketball-Eligibility

 

US Lacrosse does the same thing:

 

"Age is the best indicator for determining how to group children due to physical and cognitive development. It is also the most easily verified method to segment players. The new US Lacrosse age verification system will assist leagues and events in ensuring that players are segmented properly. However, the age groupings were designed to align as closely as possible with students’ grade level in school so that they can participate with their classmates."

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AAU incorporates both age and grade in their rules. See below:

 

http://www.aauboysbasketball.org/Rules-Articles/ArtMID/3766/ArticleID/42964/AAU-Boys-Basketball-Eligibility

 

US Lacrosse does the same thing:

 

"Age is the best indicator for determining how to group children due to physical and cognitive development. It is also the most easily verified method to segment players. The new US Lacrosse age verification system will assist leagues and events in ensuring that players are segmented properly. However, the age groupings were designed to align as closely as possible with students’ grade level in school so that they can participate with their classmates." under the below 

LOL - I looked at the link and just read the below notes, How many 12 th graders do you know that are 20 years old, or 8th graders that are 15 for god's sake (both ages are eligible in those stated grades per your AAU and LAX systems.  I can understand pre-first for children on the younger side of the age cut-off or kids that need time in educational/emotional or physical development. But most of the time this is just for sports and the parents are very open on it (I do admit the privates have sold it to the parents (pre-first) and for them it's just an added income stream)..  

 

GRADE BASED COMPETITION RULES

5TH GRADE – An athlete must be in the 5th grade or below as of October 1, 2016 and can be no older than 12 on August 31, 2017.

6TH GRADE – An athlete must be in the 6th grade or below as of October 1, 2016 and can be no older than 13 on August 31, 2017.

7TH GRADE – An athlete must be in the 7th grade or below as of October 1, 2016 and can be no older than 14 on August 31, 2017.

8TH GRADE – An athlete must be in the 8th grade or below as of October 1, 2016 and can be no older than 15 on August 31, 2017.

 

 

HIGH SCHOOL COMPETITION RULES

15U/9TH GRADE – An athlete can be no older than 15 on August 31, 2017. Grade Exception: An athlete who is in the 9th Grade as of October 1, 2016 and who is no older than 16 on August 31, 2017

16U/10TH GRADE – An athlete can be no older than 16 on August 31, 2017. Grade Exception: An athlete who is in the 10th Grade as of October 1, 2016 and who is no older than 17 on August 31, 2017

17U/11TH GRADE – An athlete can be no older than 17 on August 31, 2017. Grade Exception: An athlete who is in the 11th Grade as of October 1, 2016 and who is no older than 18 on August 31, 2017

19U/12TH GRADE – An athlete can be no older than 19 on August 31, 2017. Grade Exception: An athlete who is in the 12th Grade as of October 1, 2016 and who is no older than 20 on August 31, 2017

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Malvern Prep (PA) beat Calvert Hall 13-7 earlier today. CHC is now 2-1. Next up for the Cardinals is Conastoga (PA) on Friday (away).

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CHC is struggling on the defensive end. They really miss the starting goalie from last year.

 

The entire starting attack unit is back from last year for CHC, but the coach has started his freshman son over the junior committee to Maryland. His other son is a starter on the attack too.

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Jacob Kelly being mentioned in a post concerning politics is curious. He is a very good player in his own right and probably should be starting. He was a freshman during my son's senior year and I don't remember his starting right off the bat. As far as the freshman Kelly is concerned, I don't know if he's better than the JRs that MIAASportsfan mentioned. If he is better than the JRs then that is the antithesis to "politics" at CHC.

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Saw Glenelg play Hebron yesterday.  The Glads are very athletic and have an excellent goalie.  

Edited by 50defense

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Jacob Kelly being mentioned in a post concerning politics is curious. He is a very good player in his own right and probably should be starting. He was a freshman during my son's senior year and I don't remember his starting right off the bat. As far as the freshman Kelly is concerned, I don't know if he's better than the JRs that MIAASportsfan mentioned. If he is better than the JRs then that is the antithesis to "politics" at CHC.

 

Jacob has started every single game of his high school career at CHC.  Not sure how he did as a Freshman, but he's certainly worthy of starting this season as a Junior.  Having seen a couple of the CHC games so far, the Freshman, BK's other son, should NOT be starting over #22 (junior committed to MD).  And this is no knock on the younger Kelly, he's a freshman in high school.  I'm certain that he'll end up being a phenomenal hs lax player, but he's a typical 14/15 year old kid, needs time to grow, get faster, tougher, etc.  I think it hurts these kids to throw them to the fire at such a young age.  In every sport, it takes a really rare talent to being able to start and play well as a freshman in high school.  He has 6 freshman on the varsity this season.  I gotta think some of those kids could benefit from starting and doing well on the JV for a year.

 

Guess I'm just an old school kinda guy...

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Old school is right, although Coach Kelley would not be the first coach to keep that many (if any in the real old days) freshman on the varsity in a competitive program in order to keep them from transferring without losing a year of eligibility. 

 

It is not like there aren't freshman and JV programs. . . .

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Calvert Hall fought back from a 3-goal deficit, late in the 4th Q to tie Conestoga at 12-12 and send the game into OT.

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CHC loses to Conestoga 13-12 in OT. Cardinals played tough on the road but come up short to a good team.

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Once again, CHC is overrated pre-season only to underperform. Smallish kids who can't beat a zone defense. The book is out on the cards. They play a cupcake OOC schedule when everyone else in the MIAA is challenging themselves. CHC is bottom half of the league for sure. As long as BK keeps shoehorning his family members into the lineup, things won't change.

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EagleArrogancePride, IF Calvert Hall wanted to play a cupcake schedule, like you suggest, maybe they should have scheduled Curley (like Severn did), Fallston (like BL did), and Arundel (like MSJ did).  Not sure scheduling Conestoga, Malvern Prep, and Hill Academy (postponed by weather) is exactly cupcake-like.  

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Then there is Lambert and Greensboro Day????? Look at their OOC schedule for the past several years. Cupcake city. BK likes to pad the W-L total rather than prepare for MIAA-A play. Small kids with no offense is not how you win in the MIAA A.

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I don't think I'd call CHC's OOC schedule weak.  Malvern and Hill are 2 of the top 5 teams in the country, and Stoga is no slouch.  So they had 2 soft teams - that doesn't mean the entire OOC schedule is weak.

 

Also, the CHC Junior going to MD is listed in the pressbox article as a middie - are you saying Kelly made him switch to start his FR son?

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