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What Does It Mean to Have a 'Right' to Health Care?


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#141 WKDWZD

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Posted 22 March 2017 - 10:08 AM

Not quite. What I don't believe in is that I should be able to force you to do something about it. I, for myself, would.Voluntary action and coerced action are not the same thing. The reactionary left struggles with this due to a lack of ethics.


I would reserve the 'lack of ethics' label for the 'I'm alright Jack, pull up the ladder' crowd. ;)
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Posted 22 March 2017 - 10:11 AM

I would reserve the 'lack of ethics' label for the 'I'm alright Jack, pull up the ladder' crowd. ;)


A non sequitur.

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Posted 22 March 2017 - 10:20 AM

A non sequitur.


How so? You were applying the 'lack of ethics' label to lefties generally, I just re-assigned it to it's correct home of selfish sods in particular.
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Posted 22 March 2017 - 10:27 AM

How so? You were applying the 'lack of ethics' label to lefties generally, I just re-assigned it to it's correct home of selfish sods in particular.


Not forcing others to act does not exclude voluntarily acting and thus the non sequitur.

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Posted 22 March 2017 - 10:34 AM

Not forcing others to act does not exclude voluntarily acting and thus the non sequitur.


Oblocks! Don't fling around derogatory labels if you don't like them being re-assigned to their correct owners.
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Posted 22 March 2017 - 10:35 AM

Oblocks! Don't fling around derogatory labels if you don't like them being re-assigned to their correct owners.


You didn't assign it to the correct owners. You posted a fallacy.

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Posted 22 March 2017 - 10:40 AM

Not quite. What I don't believe in is that I should be able to force you to do something about it. I, for myself, would.

Voluntary action and coerced action are not the same thing. The reactionary left struggles with this due to a lack of ethics.

Ethics are ultimately voluntary things and unless buttressed by law are pretty useless as a legal concept. 


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Posted 22 March 2017 - 12:51 PM

You didn't assign it to the correct owners. You posted a fallacy.


Ok, as it was in response to your posted lie, let's call it even.
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Posted 22 March 2017 - 12:56 PM

Ok, as it was in response to your posted lie, let's call it even.


It wasn't a lie so no.

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Posted 22 March 2017 - 12:59 PM

It wasn't a lie so no.

It damn sure was a lie


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Posted 22 March 2017 - 01:00 PM

It wasn't a lie so no.


It was a lie, so there.

Who ya gonna call ...
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Posted 22 March 2017 - 01:01 PM

It was a lie, so there.

Who ya gonna call ...


Obviously not you. Sorry the truth hurts so much but you've got nothing.

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Posted 22 March 2017 - 01:04 PM

Obviously not you. Sorry the truth hurts so much but you've got nothing.


Seems that you have nothing, but lies, so let the people decide.
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Posted 22 March 2017 - 01:11 PM

Seems that you have nothing, but lies, so let the people decide.


Popular opinion won't change reality.

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Posted 22 March 2017 - 01:27 PM

Popular opinion won't change reality.


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Posted 22 March 2017 - 01:46 PM

The OP's argument is flawed. The right to medical care and the labor to provide medical care are not one in the same. The government is not making anyone provide medical care for free. The government is looking for system to to pay for those services so that everyobe can have access when needed. IMO medical is a right.






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