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#41 GREYHOUND ALUM

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Posted 04 April 2017 - 12:54 PM

This is hot off the press idk how true it is but I'm hearing that the schools in the MIAA will forfeit the SF games this year due to the abusing of the league rules and the league doing nothing about it


What does this actually mean? The MIAA is the league. So they're ruling against themselves? And what after that? Does it mean they hand the Championship to Spalding?

#42 jbmad

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Posted 04 April 2017 - 01:44 PM

What it means is, the transfers coming in and players already there will miss out on playing six games. The head of the MIAA is a coward and will not enforce the rules of the league for fear of picking on SFA. The ones who get hurt in this whole fiasco are the kids who started out at SFA and are being pushed out or to the bench.

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Posted 04 April 2017 - 01:46 PM

So basically, SFA is being kicked out of the MIAA?

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Posted 04 April 2017 - 01:48 PM

So basically, SFA is being kicked out of the MIAA?

Sounds like he's saying the opposite. Teams are just refusing to play them?

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Posted 04 April 2017 - 01:51 PM

Exactly

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Posted 04 April 2017 - 02:19 PM

This is hot off the press idk how true it is but I'm hearing that the schools in the MIAA will forfeit the SF games this year due to the abusing of the league rules and the league doing nothing about it

 

May I ask what rules are being abused?



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Posted 04 April 2017 - 02:20 PM

Sounds like he's saying the opposite. Teams are just refusing to play them?

Well point being, if teams don't play them, then they are for all intent and purposes, kicked out of the league.

This could also be where the Plank rumors are coming from. Poggi has big money, but he doesn't have IMG money. That's the sort of money you need to have a truly successful all National schedule year in, year out.

SFA will not survive if they go this route, without some big moneyed partners. I'm just not sure that Plank would be that guy. For all the money he has, he also doesn't have WME money.

Edited by GREYHOUND ALUM, 04 April 2017 - 02:21 PM.


#48 gillytech

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Posted 04 April 2017 - 02:26 PM

Why couldn't they play a free agent schedule locally and 3-4 national type games?  That wouldn't be more national type games and the locals would just change from the MIAA-A foes (who don't really have any history/rivalry with SFA beyond 2-3 years) to random teams like Avalon/Riverdale/FCA/Etc



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Posted 04 April 2017 - 02:27 PM

I was told that DD and Don D'amico led the fight last season but CHC didn't follow through because they thought they could beat SFA at Morgan State. The rest of the league's teams folded after that.

 

 

Davis started the dialogue about not playing SF in May with others jumping on board in June.  In August all the head coaches and one AD were on board and were going to discuss it with SF at the MIAA meeting but as usual they didn't show.  At that meeting a vote took place and all coaches voted not to play SF.  Coaches were told to take the vote to their AD's and only one sided with the coaches, and it wasn't CHC.  So with that all the AD's made the coach’s play. That's exactly how it went down.   



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Posted 04 April 2017 - 02:43 PM

Ok so this was all about last season ? Business as usual this upcoming season ?

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Posted 04 April 2017 - 02:47 PM

I think it's coming up again this year with the upswing in transfers from last year

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Posted 04 April 2017 - 02:49 PM

Why couldn't they play a free agent schedule locally and 3-4 national type games?  That wouldn't be more national type games and the locals would just change from the MIAA-A foes (who don't really have any history/rivalry with SFA beyond 2-3 years) to random teams like Avalon/Riverdale/FCA/Etc


I think playing 8-9 games Nationally without a field also isn't long term feasible. That's very very expensive. And let's just say that it's something they could wing, what happens when their record is .500 or below every year. Will the kids keep coming without at least a league title to look forward to?

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Posted 04 April 2017 - 03:04 PM

Ok so this was all about last season ? Business as usual this upcoming season ?

 

Things are still going on in the MIAA but the bigger issue is the public side.  That could lead to big problems for the MIAA if they go after SFA and pull the leagues accreditation.



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Posted 04 April 2017 - 03:07 PM

So that means the rest of the schools couldn't play the publics

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Posted 04 April 2017 - 03:50 PM

Quick correction, Shane Lee isn't going to SFA. Big for SJC to keep him.

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Posted 04 April 2017 - 04:20 PM

Quick correction, Shane Lee isn't going to SFA. Big for SJC to keep him.

That sucks

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Posted 04 April 2017 - 07:24 PM

So when you say you confirmed, does that mean they are going to SFA

i was able to confirm that they are indeed looking into transferring, Idk if it will happen or not

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Posted 04 April 2017 - 07:40 PM

Ok thanx

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Posted 04 April 2017 - 11:44 PM

So that means the rest of the schools couldn't play the publics

 

Much more serious than that. The only real power the MPSSAA holds over the privates is the "approved non-members list." If you're not on this list, any school that's a member of their states NFHS-affiliated membership (every school in the US but MD/DC/VA/TX privates) would risk having their entire season forfeited by playing a non-sanctioned school. 

 

This is the hurdle ECA ran into their first season when they could only get a couple games because the MPSSAA refused to sanction them as an approved non-member.

 

The MIAA schools have received a blanket waiver in the past. They may pull that and make schools file individually every year because allowing SFA to go rouge means the conference would lose its "enforcement authority and thus would no longer meet this criteria for inclusion: © High schools that are members of an athletic conference that formally adopts these Standards of Competition as part of its Constitution and Bylaws and has enforcement authority.

 

SFA would be ineligible to be granted approved non-member status if they broke any of the criteria, with these being the most likely violations: 4. The high school team does not permit students, who have reached the age of 19 years old or older as of August 31, to practice or play. AND/OR 9. High school team members may participate in interscholastic athletic contests in a maximum of four seasons in one sport within the 9th through 12th grades.

 

Link to the form you file with the MPSSAA: http://www.mpssaa.or...tition_Form.pdf

 

I don't see why the other schools would lose their waiver if SFA did, but it would be a blow to the prestige of the MIAA and would be more paperwork for the rest of the schools.


Edited by eaglesinsider, 04 April 2017 - 11:48 PM.


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Posted 07 April 2017 - 11:35 AM

I thought the other thread was funny, this one takes the cake. Who needs facts when you can can trump it with just being whacky?




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