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#1 pitbull

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Posted 11 April 2017 - 09:11 PM

Anyone still think this is a Major League rotation?

Big Dan should be embarassed. Honestly, he should quit.

No one can pitch more than five innings. The bullpen is taxed (thru 6 games). And Big Dan hasn't done anytbing to fix it.

Everyone knew the rotation was an issue and he did NOTHING!!! It's unbelievable.

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Posted 11 April 2017 - 09:46 PM

Anyone still think this is a Major League rotation?

Big Dan should be embarassed. Honestly, he should quit.

No one can pitch more than five innings. The bullpen is taxed (thru 6 games). And Big Dan hasn't done anytbing to fix it.

Everyone knew the rotation was an issue and he did NOTHING!!! It's unbelievable.

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#3 pitbull

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Posted 11 April 2017 - 09:58 PM

?????

So, you disagree? You are usually pretty open-minded. #rolleyes

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Posted 11 April 2017 - 10:43 PM

Bundy pitched into the seventh tonight. Last time I checked, that's more than five innings.



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Posted 11 April 2017 - 10:58 PM

Bundy pitched into the seventh tonight. Last time I checked, that's more than five innings.


And how about all of our other starters???

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Posted 11 April 2017 - 11:35 PM

And how about all of our other starters???

Not counting tonight, the Orioles were sixth in the American League in ERA. Guess who was bringing up the rear? Cleveland, Texas and Toronto, all of whom made the postseason last year. Somehow I don't think any of those teams are ready to throw in the towel.

 

Despite the Orioles getting fewer innings from their starters thus far than any AL team but the White Sox, Bundy pitched seven innings in his first outing and into the seventh tonight, and Gausman pitched into the sixth his first go-around. That's half the games with the starters going more than five innings thus far. It's not great, granted, but it's also not an unmitigated disaster. 



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Posted 11 April 2017 - 11:53 PM

?????

So, you disagree? You are usually pretty open-minded. #rolleyes

Its 6 games although i am concerned about the state of the bullpen early on
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Posted 12 April 2017 - 06:27 AM

They're going to need a healthy and effective Tillman, Gausman, and Bundy to anchor them this year... which remains to be seen... But it's also the first week. Sadly, the days of spring training actually prepping starting pitchers for real games starting opening day are long gone... especially with Buck's mindset. You have pitch counts to focus on and bullpens to lean on! ;)
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Posted 12 April 2017 - 06:34 AM

Not counting tonight, the Orioles were sixth in the American League in ERA. Guess who was bringing up the rear? Cleveland, Texas and Toronto, all of whom made the postseason last year. Somehow I don't think any of those teams are ready to throw in the towel.

 

Despite the Orioles getting fewer innings from their starters thus far than any AL team but the White Sox, Bundy pitched seven innings in his first outing and into the seventh tonight, and Gausman pitched into the sixth his first go-around. That's half the games with the starters going more than five innings thus far. It's not great, granted, but it's also not an unmitigated disaster. 

Wait, that can't be right. Bullspit says: "No one can pitch more than five innings."  Is this fake news?  ;) 

 

Despite his clear exaggeration, he's right. This overuse of the BP cannot be sustained. With UJ pitching tonight, I have only a very slim hope that we get 6 innings before the BP is needed.



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Posted 12 April 2017 - 06:46 AM

Wait, that can't be right. Bullspit says: "No one can pitch more than five innings."  Is this fake news?  ;) 

 

Despite his clear exaggeration, he's right. This overuse of the BP cannot be sustained. With UJ pitching tonight, I have only a very slim hope that we get 6 innings before the BP is needed.

 

Pretty ambitious with 6.  I'm just hoping for 5.



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Posted 12 April 2017 - 08:02 AM

Notwithstanding the hysterics on this thread, the linchpin of the O's season ultimately depends on the soundness of Tillman. As he goes, so goes the rotation, and so goes the team.
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Posted 12 April 2017 - 08:14 AM

I agree with the OP.

 

Once it was known Tillman was going to miss a chunk of the season, a viable replacement should have been signed. Instead DD acquired a bunch of AAAA fodder.

 

Even if Tillman was healthy, they should have looked to improve the rotation over Ubaldo/Miley who everyone knew probably wouldn't finish the season on the roster one way or another.

 

I get the expected improvement from Gausman and Bundy, and the consistency of Tillman. Entering the season that's a solid top 3. It's the bottom 2 that have the potential to nuke the season. Once Tillman went down, it should have been all hands on deck.


Edited by Pickle20, 12 April 2017 - 08:15 AM.


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Posted 12 April 2017 - 08:24 AM

Never fear... Ubaldo is here...


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Posted 12 April 2017 - 11:20 AM

I agree with the OP.

 

Once it was known Tillman was going to miss a chunk of the season, a viable replacement should have been signed. Instead DD acquired a bunch of AAAA fodder.

 

Even if Tillman was healthy, they should have looked to improve the rotation over Ubaldo/Miley who everyone knew probably wouldn't finish the season on the roster one way or another.

 

I get the expected improvement from Gausman and Bundy, and the consistency of Tillman. Entering the season that's a solid top 3. It's the bottom 2 that have the potential to nuke the season. Once Tillman went down, it should have been all hands on deck.

Well, I guess Tom Seaver would be available.



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Posted 12 April 2017 - 11:41 AM

I agree with the OP.

 

Once it was known Tillman was going to miss a chunk of the season, a viable replacement should have been signed. Instead DD acquired a bunch of AAAA fodder.

 

Even if Tillman was healthy, they should have looked to improve the rotation over Ubaldo/Miley who everyone knew probably wouldn't finish the season on the roster one way or another.

 

I get the expected improvement from Gausman and Bundy, and the consistency of Tillman. Entering the season that's a solid top 3. It's the bottom 2 that have the potential to nuke the season. Once Tillman went down, it should have been all hands on deck.

Agreed. Miley isn't much of a pitcher. But as the #5 guy, he can be tolerated. Especially if he's an innings eater. But even if Tillman never got hurt, a replacement for UJ should have been added.


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Posted 12 April 2017 - 11:46 AM

a replacement for UJ should have been added.


A replacement for King Ubaldo?? No way!!

Ustinko shouldn't have made it past year 2 of that 4 year deal. He is an atrocious pitcher. Somehow someway, the clown still has a starter spot.

Buck and Dan must spoke the good stuff!

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Posted 12 April 2017 - 12:53 PM

A replacement for King Ubaldo?? No way!!

Ustinko shouldn't have made it past year 2 of that 4 year deal. He is an atrocious pitcher. Somehow someway, the clown still has a starter spot.

Buck and Dan must spoke the good stuff!

Any word if there are any extension talks with Jimenez? :o


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Posted 12 April 2017 - 06:18 PM

Any word if there are any extension talks with Jimenez? :o


Clearly a priority. Manny can wait.

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Posted 12 April 2017 - 08:41 PM

Its 6 games although i am concerned about the state of the bullpen early on


We agree!!!

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Posted 12 April 2017 - 08:59 PM

We agree!!!

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