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Who is the black private [detective] that's a sex machine to all the chicks?

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Shaft

you're damn right. 

:P

 

thought we could use a little levity and some good discussion regarding race in film in this country. i saw this movie for the first time the other night with my in-laws. a little cheesy by today's standards but by many accounts, a breakthrough film for blacks in lead roles. a barrier-breaker, if you like.  though the production was pretty much dominated by whites, it was still a portal for african americans to gain more prominence in hollywood.

 

and richard roundtree was a real sexy "cat". :P  

 

thoughts on how the industry and society has changed along with it since this 1971 film from those who were around at the time? 

 

 

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It had a helluva theme song, didn't it? :P

 

It's a good subject. And frankly, I do not know if my opinion is valid. There seem to be several films annually that I guess one would say are geared towards black audiences. To me, as a 56 YO white male, they seem to play upon stereotypical language and behavior. Is it stereotypical, or simply accurate?

 

I see an actor such as Morgan Freeman shine in supporting actor roles who should be starring in many films for all audiences, yet his starring roles are few. Why? The same can be said for Alfre Woodard. Whoopi Goodberg has "starred" in more films then both of these excellent people, and nothing against Whoopi, but I judge comedy and drama differently. Hell, I'd pay to hear Freeman read the dictionary.

 

Although young, I recall the blaxpotation films of the early 70's, like Superfly and Blacula. Hopefully we have progressed past that, but in some ways I think not.

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It had a helluva theme song, didn't it? :P

 

who's the cat that won't cop out when there's danger all about?

Shaft

right on 

 

:D

 

isaac hayes won an oscar for that song. 

 

 

It's a good subject. And frankly, I do not know if my opinion is valid. There seem to be several films annually that I guess one would say are geared towards black audiences. To me, as a 56 YO white male, they seem to play upon stereotypical language and behavior. Is it stereotypical, or simply accurate?

 

I see an actor such as Morgan Freeman shine in supporting actor roles who should be starring in many films for all audiences, yet his starring roles are few. Why? The same can be said for Alfre Woodard. Whoopi Goodberg has "starred" in more films then both of these excellent people, and nothing against Whoopi, but I judge comedy and drama differently. Hell, I'd pay to hear Freeman read the dictionary.

 

Although young, I recall the blaxpotation films of the early 70's, like Superfly and Blacula. Hopefully we have progressed past that, but in some ways I think not.

 

agree, i love morgan freeman. and i adore tyler perry and his movies. i think that there has been a lot of overall progress since shaft but some current movies still play on stereotypes, by design. i'm looking forward to watching the sequels and there was a short-lived tv series that i want to catch. my father-in-law is a big richard roundtree fan and he's still at it. 

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Fred Williamson and Jim Kelly had good runs playing similar roles.

 

Pam Grier did a slew of blaxploitation films as a female crime buster. Rotten Tomatoes has ranked her as the second greatest female action heroine in film history. Director Quentin Tarantino remarked that she may have been cinema's first female action star. Among other films:

  • Coffy, 1973
  • Foxy Brown, 1975
  • Sheba, Baby, 1975
  • Friday Foster, 1975
  • Jackie Brown, 1997

     
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I thought Shaft was a legit decent movie which is more than I can say for stuff like Superfly or Dolemite. Those are more in the 'so bad they're good' category.

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Have they got to be private deeks or can one bring Sidney Pointier into the thread? 'In The Heat Of The Night" takes a lot of beating, IMO.

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Have they got to be private deeks or can one bring Sidney Pointier into the thread? 'In The Heat Of The Night" takes a lot of beating, IMO.

Heat of the Night isn't a Blaxploitation movie.  These are 1970s movies primarily made on the cheap for drive ins or urban areas.  They are generally awful and while some are so bad they are good usually they are simply bad. Not sure how many got to Great Britain but here's a good example (you might have to go to youtube to actually watch it):

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=29H4C5_H3Uk

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Heat of the Night isn't a Blaxploitation movie. These are 1970s movies primarily made on the cheap for drive ins or urban areas. They are generally awful and while some are so bad they are good usually they are simply bad. Not sure how many got to Great Britain but here's a good example (you might have to go to youtube to actually watch it):

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=29H4C5_H3Uk

They all look alike to some folks .....

 

Heat of the night is a classic, one of my favorites .....

 

Interaction between portier and stieger and how the relationship changed to where he carried his bags at the end .....

 

Good stuff .....

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They all look alike to some folks .....

 

Heat of the night is a classic, one of my favorites .....

 

Interaction between portier and stieger and how the relationship changed to where he carried his bags at the end .....

 

Good stuff .....

 

Sidney Poitier was a great actor who starred in some great movies.

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Sidney Poitier was a great actor who starred in some great movies.

Is a great actor.

He's still with us ;)

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Is a great actor.

He's still with us ;)

 

Yep I realized that after I posted

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Sidney Poitier was a great actor who starred in some great movies.

'To Sir, With Love' is one that I can identify with as I was in a similar school, a mere 6 years before that film.

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'To Sir, With Love' is one that I can identify with as I was in a similar school, a mere 6 years before that film.

 

That was one of my favorites

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That was one of my favorites

Mine too.  Poitier also starred with Richard Widmark in a thriller about a destroyer captain (Widmark) obsessed with forcing a Soviet sub to the surface.  Poitier is a journalist horrified at the captain's actions.  In the end, the sub fires a nuclear-tipped torpedo (which would have been suicide for the sub but it was a dramatic ending.)

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That was "The Bedford Incident", a good Cold War thriller also with Martin Balsam, Wally Cox, James MacArthur and a small role for then young Donald Sutherland. I cant recall the name of the German actor offhand who played the ex-Uboat captain but he's a familiar actor as well. Go ahead, just name any War Movie, betcha I have it. The ending was the destroyer launching an ASROC in error and the Russkie sub responding with a spread of four fish with nuclear warheads, of course only One was necessary.

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Denzel is the black Tom Hanks.

 

Consistantly high quality over a long period.

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Denzel is the black Tom Hanks.

 

Consistantly high quality over a long period.

Betcha you Forgot about "Flight", I was expecting something out of that one but it Bombed! Wasn't all that impressed with the Remake of Pelham 123 either. Every actor has a Stinker in there somewhere.

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Betcha you Forgot about "Flight", I was expecting something out of that one but it Bombed! Wasn't all that impressed with the Remake of Pelham 123 either. Every actor has a Stinker in there somewhere.

"Flight" was off my RADAR. :) I might catch it some day...

 

Someone likes it:

 

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1907668/?ref_=fn_al_tt_1

 

 

Speaking of stinkers (a forgivable, early movie career stinker), "Turner and Hooch" was on the boob toob over the weekend. :)

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"Flight" was off my RADAR. :) I might catch it some day...

 

Someone likes it:

 

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1907668/?ref_=fn_al_tt_1

 

 

Speaking of stinkers (a forgivable, early movie career stinker), "Turner and Hooch" was on the boob toob over the weekend. :)

 

First part of the movie dealing with his flight and crash was OK  Though I don't think Rolling an airliner 360 degrees is anything but a Suicide move in Reality it pretty much saved the day and many people in the movie. Just a special effect someone thought was a good idea. But from then on it was just all about him being an Alcoholic. So...

 

I've got Turner & Hooch on one of my hard drives, a keeper, not Great but not that Bad either, I like Dogs so...

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When I'm walking through the casino and the song Shaft comes on the radio I'll break out into my "Shaft" strut!... :D  :lol:

 

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No videos please Shades!

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The website Department of Afro-American Research and Culture is a literal encyclopedia of the Race Film Era (Black independent films of the 1920s to mid 1950s), Civil Rights Era, Blaxploitation Era (336 films posted), New Jack/Hip-Hop Era, and Modern Black Cinema. I've been following them for over 8 years. They have also documented Blaxploitation Soundtracks. A very thorough information source.

Their YouTube channel has high-definition sample clips available for viewing.

 

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No videos please Shades!

 

C'mon Norman, please? I can even throw in my Staying Alive walk from Saturday Night Fever.

 

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Denzel's "Flight", the Suicide Move now with Video Goodness! I don't think this is possible without the wings coming off. Airliners aren't stressed for Negative G's.

 

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