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3 hours ago, OldBallCoach said:

That I don't agree talk to coaches around the state Arundel is seen as a very good program. Also, I do agree the 2nd tier privates are about equal to or better then the top 1/3 of publics. Both WCAC and MIAA A conferences hands down better then the publics.

Look at Arundel's record over the last decade including the years of Cosh and they have NOT gone beyond the second round of the playoffs but once.  Yes Arundel is a descent program but the results on the field is not in sync with a very good program.  Very good would be like 7-11 Wise when they were 7-11 as in 7 titles in the 11 years of it's existence.  But I guess 8 of 12 just doesn't sound so snappy.  Very good program would be Dasmacus.  Can you tell us OldTimer how many states Damascus has won, please?  You really think Arch Carroll, Ryken, Loyola, CHC of the WCAC/MIAA-A are so significantly better in athletes, play, and their programs than Wise, Damascus, Quince Orchard, Northwest, Old Mill, et al.  I'll ignore for the moment that you want to compare but a very few select privates of mercenaries against 100 publics of neighborhoodies....  Until some of your 2nd tier can at least win ONE game against DeMatha, I really just don't care to hear anymore about how great you privates are or your level of play, cause right now over some years of late, DeM is 19-0 against SJC, 15-0 against BMc, 13-0 against Arch Carroll, and on and on.  It's seems that the only team to compete against DeM has been Gilman.

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5 hours ago, ShoNuff07 said:

Wow Slick...for a min there I thought you was the late Robin Harris rising from the dead looking for the man that called the piccolo player a MF   :D....

 

LMAO! That was a good one!!!

Didn't want to drop the names of the dudes because of his connections to local coaches and programs. Didn't want it to seem as if he plays any favorites. But his resume is heavy!

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5 hours ago, DayWalker said:

Look at Arundel's record over the last decade including the years of Cosh and they have NOT gone beyond the second round of the playoffs but once.  Yes Arundel is a descent program but the results on the field is not in sync with a very good program.  Very good would be like 7-11 Wise when they were 7-11 as in 7 titles in the 11 years of it's existence.  But I guess 8 of 12 just doesn't sound so snappy.  Very good program would be Dasmacus.  Can you tell us OldTimer how many states Damascus has won, please?  You really think Arch Carroll, Ryken, Loyola, CHC of the WCAC/MIAA-A is better than Wise, Damascus, Quince Orchard, Northwest, Old Mill, et al.  I'll ignore for the moment that you want to compare but a very few select privates of mercenaries against 100 publics of neighborhoodies....  Until some of your 2nd tier can at least win ONE game against DeMatha, I really just don't care to hear anymore about how great you privates are or your level of play, cause right now over some years of late, DeM is 19-0 against SJC, 15-0 against BMc, 13-0 against Arch Carroll, and on and on.  It's seems that the only team to compete against DeM has been Gilman.

Actually I do think but we will find out this year. Wise IS a good program they are having one of those unreal runs but that's what happens with open seating at a brand new school. Wise is more like a private enrollment wise then public. But Coach parrish has done a great job. Arundel is very well coached. We will find out cause if CHC beats Wise then we have our answer. I remember Curly coming to Waldorf and beat us when we were loaded 

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20 hours ago, Silverbullet said:

It's pretty easy to see. We've gone over this many times. BMac would match Wise at the skill positions and it would come down to the trenches. BMac has more dogs there. It would be a very close game. Very similar to the BMac vs Riverdale Baptist games. Wise could win. I would bet money on BMac though. I don't trust Wise after taking a punch to the mouth. I watched BMac keep throwing haymakers against an absolutely loaded Bishop Sullivan(VA Beach VA) and come out with a win.

We've seen this before. The reason the top privates are so much better than the top publics is because of the OL/DL advantage. I know they are in the IAC, but its a very similar situation...Remember when Bullis thought they could hang with a WCAC squad a few years ago? 42-0 with a running clock was the result. They had the skills to match. The trenches were a massacre. 

Remember the year b4 that, when Bullis beat BMAC who was  a WCAC playoff team 26-3? I guess the trenches had something to do with that too? The trenches had absolutely nothing the do with the STJ lose. They were banged up coming out of camp. 4-5 power 5 kids didn't play vs STJ. 

So what BMAC will we get if they were to play Wise? Because you know as well as I do that they aren't consistent as a program and haven't won anything. The strength program is garbage and part of that evidence is the 5 star Damien Prince who had to redshirt as a freshman at UMD because of it. Looking at the wise roster they have several 300 pounders and several more pushing 270-280! So BMAC doesn't deserve the edge in the trenches because there is no proof of them ever being dominant there. That might work if Wise didn't have the roster numbers but they do. Along with BMAC not having a history of great line play.

 

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2 hours ago, OldBallCoach said:

Actually I do think but we will find out this year. Wise is not a good program they are having one of those unreal runs but that's what happens with open seating at a brand new school. Wise is more like a private enrollment wise then public. But Coach parrish has done a great job. Arundel is very well coached. We will find out cause if CHC beats Wise then we have our answer. I remember Curly coming to Waldorf and beat us when we were loaded 

Come on coach, come on....you are beginning to sound just like other envious slugs around here.  Wise has a stellar sports program because they happen to be located in a hotbed of talent and they work and work hard and smart at it, no short cuts.  Many of the best youth programs play near Wise at Sasser Field.  Wise is surrounded by the Marlboro Mustangs, Patuxent Rhinos, UM Gators, KLM, and on and on.  Youngsters in the area dream of playing high school football.  Wise is no longer a NEW school.  It's doors opened over 10-years ago circa 2006 to relieve over crowding at nearby Douglass and Largo who immediately dropped from 4A and 3A to now both being 1A schools.  You would be flat out wrong to characterize Wise like a private enrollment or open seat school.  Wise follow enrollment guidelines of its district like the other 20-plus high schools in the county.  Oxon Hill and Fairmont Heights are much newer schools, the buildings, than Wise.  But you have no envy of them because they are not sports juggernauts like Wise.

Yes Coach Parrish, the only head coach Wise has ever had has done a fantastic job.  He was 2-8 his 1st year in 2006, 5-5 in 2007, 9-4 in 2008, and went to states in 2009 losing to Old Mill by one point.  But yes Wise has been on a unreal run but they have done so since they opened their doors.  In 2010 Wise again went to states losing to Urbana 6 - 0 and I still remember the Wise kid who dropped a W I D E opened pass in the end-zone at the end of that 6 - 0 game.  Wise returned in 2011 to go 9 - 2, then 14 - 0 in 2012 to win states.  And no need to bore you with Wise going 28 - 0 for the last two years.  In sum, Wise would have 5 states appearances in its 10 years winning three times.  Yep, that's an unreal run at 4A.

Wise beating CHC will not finally answer anything.  It will just be 1 of 14 steps to 3-peat for Wise.  And should Wise even lose to CHC, it STILL will be just one step, but backwards, toward the goal of 3-peating.  But don't forget, Wise's goal is states and CHC is merely one of the 14 hurdles in that race, no higher than any other hurdle.

So tell me coach, when did "Curly" come to Waldorf and beat your team you remember so well?  Who was that loaded team?   Was it in my lifetime?  This should be very interesting.....  :rolleyes:

 

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1 hour ago, DayWalker said:

Come on coach, come on....you are beginning to sound just like other envious slugs around here.  Wise has a stellar sports program because they happen to be located in a hotbed of talent and they work and work hard and smart at it, no short cuts.  Many of the best youth programs play near Wise at Sasser Field.  Wise is surrounded by the Marlboro Mustangs, Patuxent Rhinos, UM Gators, KLM, and on and on.  Youngsters in the area dream of playing high school football.  Wise is no longer a NEW school.  It's doors opened over 10-years ago circa 2006 to relieve over crowding at nearby Douglass and Largo who immediately dropped from 4A and 3A to now both being 1A schools.  You would be flat out wrong to characterize Wise like a private enrollment or open seat school.  Wise follow enrollment guidelines of its district like the other 20-plus high schools in the county.  Oxon Hill and Fairmont Heights are much newer schools, the buildings, than Wise.  But you have no envy of them because they are not sports juggernauts like Wise.

Yes Coach Parrish, the only head coach Wise has ever had has done a fantastic job.  He was 2-8 his 1st year in 2006, 5-5 in 2007, 9-4 in 2008, and went to states in 2009 losing to Old Mill by one point.  But yes Wise has been on a unreal run but they have done so since they opened their doors.  In 2010 Wise again went to states losing to Urbana 6 - 0 and I still remember the Wise kid who dropped a W I D E opened pass in the end-zone at the end of that 6 - 0 game.  Wise returned in 2011 to go 9 - 2, then 14 - 0 in 2012 to win states.  And no need to bore you with Wise going 28 - 0 for the last two years.  In sum, Wise would have 5 states appearances in its 10 years winning three times.  Yep, that's an unreal run at 4A.

Wise beating CHC will not finally answer anything.  It will just be 1 of 14 steps to 3-peat for Wise.  And should Wise even lose to CHC, it STILL will be just one step, but backwards, toward the goal of 3-peating.  But don't forget, Wise's goal is states and CHC is merely one of the 14 hurdles in that race, no higher than any other hurdle.

So tell me coach, when did "Curly" come to Waldorf and beat your team you remember so well?  Who was that loaded team?   Was it in my lifetime?  This should be very interesting.....  :rolleyes:

 

I will say you do make me laugh.

Curley came down around 2002 (since you know so much I would assume you knew this already) and yes we were loaded Randy Starks (Miami Dolphins) and other such guys. We came up to Byrd played the Tommy Polley team of Dunbar lost a tight one when the school was just opening its doors. My last year there on the JV staff was a double OT loss to Gwynn Park on a corner through to the big TE who went to Maryland. 

So does that jog your memory? Come on selective memory here or old age like me? 

I will be at the GC/ SMR/ CH scrimmage to check out some friends coaching with SMR stop by say hi will have my Wolverine hat on.

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Well that Dunbar team with tommy polley beat chc if u talking back then old ball coach. City schools had success against privates back then before reclassing and recruiting. 

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Did someone say Arundel is a great team and very good program, and in the same day say that Wise is not a very good program? LOL! Thats rich,

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3 minutes ago, city40blast said:

Well that Dunbar team with tommy polley beat chc if u talking back then old ball coach. City schools had success against privates back then before reclassing and recruiting. 

Definitely that MSA league was tough. From what I remember those publics back then had no issues beating the privates. Some great teams.

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26 minutes ago, themamba said:

Did someone say Arundel is a great team and very good program, and in the same day say that Wise is not a very good program? LOL! Thats rich,

No I said they are having an unreal run and a great program. I explained there is a difference between a great program like wise who is having an unreal run and a very good well coached program which I consider Arundel to be. Arundel and Wise are not the same. Wise wins 9/10 times.

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3 hours ago, OldBallCoach said:

Actually I do think but we will find out this year. Wise is not a good program they are having one of those unreal runs but that's what happens with open seating at a brand new school. Wise is more like a private enrollment wise then public. But Coach parrish has done a great job. Arundel is very well coached. We will find out cause if CHC beats Wise then we have our answer. I remember Curly coming to Waldorf and beat us when we were loaded 

Ok.

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1 hour ago, OldBallCoach said:

I will say you do make me laugh.

Curley came down around 2002 (since you know so much I would assume you knew this already) and yes we were loaded Randy Starks (Miami Dolphins) and other such guys. We came up to Byrd played the Tommy Polley team of Dunbar lost a tight one when the school was just opening its doors. My last year there on the JV staff was a double OT loss to Gwynn Park on a corner through to the big TE who went to Maryland. 

So does that jog your memory? Come on selective memory here or old age like me? 

I will be at the GC/ SMR/ CH scrimmage to check out some friends coaching with SMR stop by say hi will have my Wolverine hat on.

But coach, Randy Starks would have been at Maryland in 2002, not Westlake.  Wasn't Randy a 2004 NFL draft pick?

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Just now, themamba said:

Ok.

That's a typo did not mean that. Need to put on my glasses. I apologize.

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5 minutes ago, OldBallCoach said:

That's a typo did not mean that. Need to put on my glasses. I apologize.

Randy came thru in 99-00 with Chisley and the other guys. You asked when Curley came down which said was about 02. 

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1 minute ago, OldBallCoach said:

Randy came thru in 99 with Chisley and the other guys. You asked when Curley came down which said was about 02. 

And you said Curley came down and to a loaded team with Randy Starks coach.....   I said this was going to be interesting and you haven't disappointed.  :D

Carry on..... I'll still make you laugh?

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Yes you do it is fun watching you search Wikipedia 

Just now, DayWalker said:

And you said Curley came down and to a loaded team with Randy Starks coach.....   I said this was going to be interesting and you haven't disappointed.  :D

Carry on..... I'll still make you laugh?

 

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6 minutes ago, OldBallCoach said:

That's a typo did not mean that. Need to put on my glasses. I apologize.

Oh, a typo would seem to make less sense. Nevermind.

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Yes, I read the Starks thing the same way. Maybe it was just lack of puncuation. There was Curley coming down in 2002, with a loaded squad, featuring Randy Starks.

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7 minutes ago, themamba said:

Oh, a typo would seem to make less sense. Nevermind.

Yeah, like whatever the coach meant by Curly/Curely coming down to Waldorf and smacked his loaded team with Randy Starks in 2002 and he wants to deflect and blame Wikipedia.  I said it would be interesting.....

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Incorrect

Starks was on the 99-00 teams.

Curley came down in 02 about

Hope that was simple enough sorry I do not spell and grammar check message board posts. Have a good night.

DW it has been interesting.

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Coach

I am somewhat familiar with southern MD football circa early 2000's because I happen to know one Shawne Merriman when he attended Maryland at about the same time as Randy Starks....

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Yes Merriman was at Douglass PG. We played against them as well very good team. Shame I hear the school will close. JC is another great coach and his staff has been together for a long time.

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1 minute ago, OldBallCoach said:

Hope that was simple enough sorry I do not spell and grammar check message board posts. Have a good night.

Oh no coach, don't leave.  I was just starting to enjoy myself with you.  I like you so much better than the DC Sniper, BigDrop, g-spot, aa county, MaroonTiger, NoHuddleNoMercy GA, McDeesNuts, AO-pornounced A-Hole, and so many others.  Hey, just take a break and come back tomorrow.  The DayWalker will be waitin' for you to dialog even more, okay!!!!

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Proof? What's the proof from Wise? At least BMac has solid wins. I wouldn't even take Wise over Riverdale Baptist. That's a toss up from an eye test.

Don't give me that "strength program" stuff. You're beyond clueless on that end of the spectrum. 

So here we are, TS. You wanted to know why BMac would beat Wise. How would Wise beat BMac? When I watch the tape, I see two even skills and a better OL/DL from BMac...

Bullis vs BMac game? That has nothing to do with the top 4 WCAC. My example was explaining the gap. Stop trying to make excuses. It's embarrassing. 

 

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