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4 minutes ago, DayWalker said:

Oh no coach, don't leave.  I was just starting to enjoy myself with you.  I like you so much better than the DC Sniper, BigDrop, g-spot, aa county, MaroonTiger, NoHuddleNoMercy GA, McDeesNuts, AO-pornounced A-Hole, and so many others.  Hey, just take a break and come back tomorrow.  The DayWalker will be waitin' for you to dialog even more, okay!!!!

DW not leaving I actually enjoy reading the board because I am not in the coaching loop anymore. Just done going back and forth about that topic.

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13 minutes ago, OldBallCoach said:

Yes Merriman was at Douglass PG. We played against them as well very good team. Shame I hear the school will close. JC is another great coach and his staff has been together for a long time.

The news of Douglass closing just may be too pre-mature.  There is a historical element with Douglass being the first high school in the county blacks were allowed to attend.  Before that, high schoolers had to go to DC or Baltimore to be educated.  And yes I know JC and his staff.  Bill Johnson who went to BMc has been at Douglass forever, 30 or more years.   Didn't Sonny Yeatman coach in your SMAC area around 2000?  Sutton, Bridges and his son who went to Villanova I know.  And, JC's dad a coach at Douglass.  Yes sir coach, I know that area and others quite well.

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Yes you are correct Sonny has been around a bit mostly with JC and crew I believe. SMAC has had some good coaches come thru in my time here. Glad to hear they may rethink that decision. School has a great tradition.

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15 minutes ago, Silverbullet said:

 

Proof? What's the proof from Wise?

 

What you like, a 100 ranking for Wise and well over 500 for BMc last season.  And I will not bother with BMc's close solid wins over Ryken by 5 and Arch Carroll by 2 the last two seasons...

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2 minutes ago, DayWalker said:

What you like, a 100 ranking for Wise and well over 500 for BMc last season.  And I will not bother with BMc's close solid wins over Ryken by 5 and Arch Carroll by 2 the last two seasons...

Rankings again? After all you've aimlessly ranted about the topic and you bring rankings up? That's rich, DW. 

Name a better win than Bishop Sullivan or SJC for Wise over the last three years. I'll wait...

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6 minutes ago, OldBallCoach said:

Yes you are correct Sonny has been around a bit mostly with JC and crew I believe. SMAC has had some good coaches come thru in my time here. Glad to hear they may rethink that decision. School has a great tradition.

I got word that PG and SMAC are having a showcase something or another at Westlake to open the season.  Suitland is playing Great Mill, Friendly is playing Westlake, and Douglass was to play Lackey but that fell thru so Douglass is playing Randallstown.  By the was, did you know Coach Kimpson now at Gwynn Park when he was at Westlake?

By the way, Westlake owes Wise a good curse out.  In 2014, Wise backed out of an opening season game with Douglass when they were the terror of the season team to be the #1 ranked team in the DMV.  Westlake replace Wise and got an open season beat down that set the stage for Douglass that season where they average beating opponents by 44 points.  Westlake needs to give Wise some good 4 letter word over that.

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22 minutes ago, Silverbullet said:

Rankings again? After all you've aimlessly ranted about the topic and you bring rankings up? That's rich, DW. 

Name a better win than Bishop Sullivan or SJC for Wise over the last three years. I'll wait...

Rankings is all you seems to understand Sniper so I try to address you how I hoped it would matter or make sense to you.  But I must be wrong.

Wise having superior skilled players, massive and deep line OL and DL, a phenom coach in Parrish, rabid fans who drive me nuts with Puuuuuuuuumaaaaassssss, slick band, darling cheerleaders and HBCU type dancers just will not move a tight Chevy Chase @zz of yours.

Oh, better wins for Wise than Sullivan or SJC, that would Quince Orchard last year to win states, the year before in beating Howard to win states, and to do it a third time against whomever I would say is so so so much better than a regular season game win, especially when a win or loss to Sullivan has absolutely NO IMPACT on the WCAC league standing.  Their is no skin in the game for non-league games within both the MIAA and WCAC, not like all games matter within the publics.

Class dismissed....

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17 minutes ago, DayWalker said:

Rankings is all you seems to understand Sniper so I try to address you how I hoped it would matter or make sense to you.  But I must be wrong.

Wise having superior skilled players, massive and deep line OL and DL, a phenom coach in Parrish, rabid fans who drive me nuts with Puuuuuuuuumaaaaassssss, slick band, darling cheerleaders and HBCU type dancers just will not move a tight Chevy Chase @zz of yours.

Oh, better wins for Wise than Sullivan or SJC, that would Quince Orchard last year to win states, the year before in beating Howard to win states, and to do it a third time against whomever I would say is so so so much better than a regular season game win, especially when a win or loss to Sullivan has absolutely NO IMPACT on the WCAC league standing.  Their is no skin in the game for non-league games within both the MIAA and WCAC, not like all games matter within the publics.

Class dismissed....

So your next step was to talk about rabid fans, darling cheerleaders, and HBCU type dancers? Serious question, what are you sipping on? White lightning? 

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37 minutes ago, DayWalker said:

I got word that PG and SMAC are having a showcase something or another at Westlake to open the season.  Suitland is playing Great Mill, Friendly is playing Westlake, and Douglass was to play Lackey but that fell thru so Douglass is playing Randallstown.  By the was, did you know Coach Kimpson now at Gwynn Park when he was at Westlake?

By the way, Westlake owes Wise a good curse out.  In 2014, Wise backed out of an opening season game with Douglass when they were the terror of the season team to be the #1 ranked team in the DMV.  Westlake replace Wise and got an open season beat down that set the stage for Douglass that season where they average beating opponents by 44 points.  Westlake needs to give Wise some good 4 letter word over that.

Frank was there briefly before I left for North Point. But yes he was on the Varsity staff so I didn't work with him directly. Good coach.

That is well after me in 2014. I was in St Mary's County by then. Douglass was outstanding that year.

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15 minutes ago, Silverbullet said:

So your next step was to talk about rabid fans, darling cheerleaders, and HBCU type dancers? Serious question, what are you sipping on? White lightning? 

After superior skilled players - massive deep lines - excellent coaching, yes, you needed the entire Wise experience of the fans, cheerleaders, and dancers.  Like I said, it was going to be too much for a Chevy Chase tight @zz like you to shake loss.  And don't forget the band and to give Maceo, the drummer, some....

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1 hour ago, OldBallCoach said:

Frank was there briefly before I left for North Point. But yes he was on the Varsity staff so I didn't work with him directly. Good coach.

That is well after me in 2014. I was in St Mary's County by then. Douglass was outstanding that year.

Were you at North Point around 2008 with Coach Lane?  I'm thinking of the nice runningback North Point had in 2008 I can't recall his name.

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I was on JV until I left for an OC position. You are thinking of Tre Scott.

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43 minutes ago, OldBallCoach said:

I was on JV until I left for an OC position. You are thinking of Tre Scott.

Yes, that sounds like the right name, nice runningback North Point had.  I first saw him when North Point played Thomas Stone at TS.  And later I was at a store in the area when I came across a DB on that NP team who was going to Bowie State I believe he said who was one of nicest kids you would ever meet.  We chatted about football in the parking lot for a long time.  His name is Jaron or something like that.  I remember then that North Point seem to have 100 players each on varsity, JV, AND freshman teams.  I couldn't believe it was a 2A school then.  North Point has a sweet high school stadium.

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Yes his older brother played at Westlake while I was there. Both were great kids. 

North Point really did have huge numbers can't remember if it was that big you are right it was a lot.

The school at the time was one of a kind for that area. Still a great school.

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Wow, you do know your stuff coach.....  Do you recall the 2008 season Westlake shocked the world and won states???  I don't think Coach Lush of Lackey has mentally been the same since in his couple points or so loss to Westlake that season.  And badrump Friendly took it square on the chin from Westlake.  My HoCo friends here will hate me for bringing this up but I never liked them anyway.....

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Yes they played great Mumu won that game and the Seneca game almost single handed with his speed. Then they kicked to him at M&T and that was that. 

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8 hours ago, OldBallCoach said:

Yes they played great Mumu won that game and the Seneca game almost single handed with his speed. Then they kicked to him at M&T and that was that. 

Oh Yes, that kick-six was GREAT.  And the south is why I recently took exception to the Hereford yoyo among us declaring now that the 1A title game will come from the north and west and he argued with me that it can't be from the south.  But tell the truth coach, was that kick-six kid you call Mumu a steal from PG or a Charles County home grow? 

Darn coach, you bring back such fond memories for me and why I love public school ball so much.  To me it's all about how one finishes after the marathon season and not how it starts.  It's maybe just me coach but the WCAC/MIAA-A seem to be so wrapped up in very early mostly out of state games and then coast the rest of the way to just 10 or 11 game seasons with the MIAA-A not even having a league playoff and co-champs and other bush league nonsense in my opinion.  I mean come on, DeMatha's entire off season and all they really care about is Gorman Gorman Gorman, the single regular season game sprint, with the rest of the season a sleep walk as they go thru an act of being their league champ, the DeMatha Invitational, for the umpteenth time in a row.  It has happened for many years.

No sir, I prefer a different Taste of Football; that Forest Gump box of chocolates I always talk about. I am not of the Ivy League set who boast of how great scholars they produce when they bring in the very students they think they are into a great academic setting.  That should be the wet that comes with the water.  I simply like the average or even above average students who attend college and turn out to be Rhode Scholars or other greatness.  This is a metaphor for "neighborhoodies" I talk about who come together as a team, work hard and smart, and WIN states for their communities rather than a collection of highly recruited diva "mercenaries" to win an out of state game or two each year for mythical rankings.

Did I mention I like public football in Maryland....  I'm looking forward to who will step up to take down Wise, Damascus, and Fort Hill.  And I almost can't wait for the shock, but normal public business to me, when Franklin knocks off DeMatha in the coming weeks....  :huh:  Yeah, I said it.

In the public world, 1A programs like Dunbar and Fort Hill can rise to great noteworthiness as well as the 4A Wises and Quince Orchards.  3A Damascus and 2A Middletown have done the same.  Outside of the MIAA folks here, one would be very hard pressed to know the teams let alone MIAA-B and C champs.  Hell, very rarely are they even talked about around here, certainly not their "level of play" I call code for "superior private play".

Anywhatever coach, you shook the off-season rust from me yesterday and I am in mid-season form now to butcher the likes in 2017 of McDeesNuts, NoHuddleNoMercy lil pup GA, g-Spot, aareclasscounty, moronTiger, slickofitall, AO - pronounced A-Hole, DC Sniper, no scrimmage ticked off BigDroop, jdinsanemadman, Guwho?, 85NiteNite, and a lot of others who simply Hate My Guts around here and wouldn't piss on me if I were aflame, also just the way I like It....cause as Bernie Mac said, "....You don't understand.  I ain't scared of none of you mofos..."  :P   KICK IT!!!!

 

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7 hours ago, OldBallCoach said:

Yes they played great Mumu won that game and the Seneca game almost single handed with his speed. Then they kicked to him at M&T and that was that. 

Joe Rankin from Seneca was the man on the field that night. Didn't he take the opening kickoff back for a TD?  Problem with Seneca is they rode his back all night until OT when they had first and goal from the 5 and didn't give Rankin a single touch in four downs. Caused a big ruckus within the staff at Seneca. 

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18 minutes ago, Oldtime said:

Joe Rankin from Seneca was the man on the field that night. Didn't he take the opening kickoff back for a TD?  Problem with Seneca is they rode his back all night until OT when they had first and goal from the 5 and didn't give Rankin a single touch in four downs. Caused a big ruckus within the staff at Seneca. 

Yep OT, critical very costly mistakes in very big games tend to cause dissension among the brain trust.  I can picture the SV ruckus you speak of.  Imagine if Dunbar hadn't given the ball to Tavon Austin in his last play for Dunbar to win states and they failed to score and lost that title game to Fort Hill!!!!!!  I saw the rukus you described last season when the staff of a very fine coach in Danny Hayes seem to question what they were doing in a 1st-round playoff lost to Calvert when Gwynn Park were 10-0 for the regular season.  But the take here is that Westlake did shock the world and brought the trophy back down to Charles County and SV has never really been the same.

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1 hour ago, DayWalker said:

Oh Yes, that kick-six was GREAT.  And the south is why I recently took exception to the Hereford yoyo among us declaring now that the 1A title game will come from the north and west and he argued with me that it can't be from the south.  But tell the truth coach, was that kick-six kid you call Mumu a steal from PG or a Charles County home grow? 

Darn coach, you bring back such fond memories for me and why I love public school ball so much.  To me it's all about how one finishes after the marathon season and not how it starts.  It's maybe just me coach but the WCAC/MIAA-A seem to be so wrapped up in very early mostly out of state games and then coast the rest of the way to just 10 or 11 game seasons with the MIAA-A not even having a league playoff and co-champs and other bush league nonsense in my opinion.  I mean come on, DeMatha's entire off season and all they really care about is Gorman Gorman Gorman, the single regular season game sprint, with the rest of the season a sleep walk as they go thru an act of being their league champ, the DeMatha Invitational, for the umpteenth time in a row.  It has happened for many years.

No sir, I prefer a different Taste of Football; that Forest Gump box of chocolates I always talk about. I am not of the Ivy League set who boast of how great scholars they produce when they bring in the very students they think they are into a great academic setting.  That should be the wet that comes with the water.  I simply like the average or even above average students who attend college and turn out to be Rhode Scholars or other greatness.  This is a metaphor for "neighborhoodies" I talk about who come together as a team, work hard and smart, and WIN states for their communities rather than a collection of highly recruited diva "mercenaries" to win an out of state game or two each year for mythical rankings.

Did I mention I like public football in Maryland....  I'm looking forward to who will step up to take down Wise, Damascus, and Fot Hill.  And I almost can't wait for the shock, but normal public business to me, when Franklin knocks off DeMatha in the coming weeks....  :huh:  Yeah, I said it.

In the public world, 1A programs like Dunbar and Fort Hill can rise to great noteworthiness as well as the 4A Wises and Quince Orchards.  3A Damascus and 2A Middletown have done the same.  Outside of the MIAA folks here, one would be very hard pressed to know the teams let alone MIAA-B and C champs.  Hell, very rarely are they even talked about around here, certainly not their "level of play" I call code for "superior private play".

Anywhatever coach, you shook the off-season rust from me yesterday and I am in mid-season form now to butcher the likes in 2017 of McDeesNuts, NoHuddleNoMercy lil pup GA, g-Spot, aareclasscounty, moronTiger, slickofitall, AO - pronounced A-Hole, DC Sniper, no scrimmage ticked off BigDroop, jdinsanemadman, Guwho?, 85NiteNite, and a lot of others who simply Hate My Guts around here, also just the way I like It....cause as Bernie Mack said, "....You don't understand.  I ain't scared of none of you mofos..."  :P   KICK IT!!!!

 

Damn DW you sound out of breath after my new nickname. Lol

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15 minutes ago, jbmad said:

Damn DW you sound out of breath after my new nickname. Lol

:D  It's football time again madman.....  Time to get the peanut gallery back together again.

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34 minutes ago, DayWalker said:

:D  It's football time again madman.....  Time to get the peanut gallery back together again.

Yes sir, only my dog is gone, but I still have opinions

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13 hours ago, Silverbullet said:

 

Proof? What's the proof from Wise? At least BMac has solid wins. I wouldn't even take Wise over Riverdale Baptist. That's a toss up from an eye test.

Don't give me that "strength program" stuff. You're beyond clueless on that end of the spectrum. 

So here we are, TS. You wanted to know why BMac would beat Wise. How would Wise beat BMac? When I watch the tape, I see two even skills and a better OL/DL from BMac...

Bullis vs BMac game? That has nothing to do with the top 4 WCAC. My example was explaining the gap. Stop trying to make excuses. It's embarrassing. 

 

Because they go deep into the playoffs and see a lot of schemes offensively and defensively due to the variety of teams they see throughout the season they are better prepared on both sides of the ball than BMAC. We all know the style of play offensively at  BMAC (4-5 wr sets and wide-splits to create space most of the game). BMAC plays right into the hands of what Wise does well defensively.

BMAC has an issue with teams that can cover on the back end. Wise has 4 kids with power 5 offers in their secondary. Thats as many as anybody in the area! Including every team in the WCAC-MIAA! You can do a lot more up front if you can cover on the back end. Most if not all HS QB's get confused at the snap when a team can play 2-man. Because of their depth in the secondary thats an easy coverage for Wise to play vs BMAC. That alone will force BMAC to do something different offensively which they havent been known for. Running the ball!

On offense because of the talent and the variety of schemes that Wise runs BMAC has to play it honest. They remind me of the 2014 Bullis team that was extremely balanced on offense when looking at their stats and offense on tape. Wise has a 1400 yard back returning and they use him out of multiple sets and formations. And their top 4 WR's all had 20+ receptions on an offense that threw for close to 2600 yards. So BMAC has to choose its poison. Stop the run and hope to match up in the secondary or play coverage and hope their front 7 can stop Wise. Even then its an easy fix for Wise offensively. Tunnel, bubble, jet or some sort of RPO's which it appears they run offensively forces teams to widen when loaded in the box or get out of the box all together so they can get back to balance. 

Recently there has been several articles that has Maryland as a football hotbed. So for argument sake lets say the MIAA #1, WCAC #2 in the area who is #3? MD 4A? Lets give them that. Wise is a 2-time state champion that is a 5200 yard offensive team that plays in one of the top leagues in the state in one of the hottest recruiting regions in the country. Those are facts! BMAC would have issues ****ing with Wise and what they do on offense and the different schemes they can run on defense. Plus your dealing with a program thats used to winning and another that hasnt won anything. I would love to see BMAC take a swing at Wse and when WIse responds watch BMAC fold like they usually do. Its in their DNA to crumble.

 

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Sorry my old self fell asleep DW. Mumu was homegrown but got caught up in that ER transfer craziness he actually lived down the road from me in Hampshire development. If you know the area Hampshire is directly next to the HS. He came back to us for his junior and senior year I believe don't quote me on that might've been just a senior year. Been a while now since that day. So don't quote me on that.

 

I do agree I find the private stuff a little crazy. It basically depends on who has the biggest bank roll determines your league champ. But have to support family and my buddy.

 

haha this is why I read love the inside info and the back and forth. Hopefully we can meet up sometime at one of these games.

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21 minutes ago, Tomslick said:

Because they go deep into the playoffs and see a lot of schemes offensively and defensively due to the variety of teams they see throughout the season they are better prepared on both sides of the ball than BMAC. We all know the style of play offensively at  BMAC (4-5 wr sets and wide-splits to create space most of the game).

BMAC has an issue with teams that can cover on the back end. Wise has 4 kids with power 5 offers in their secondary. Thats as many as anybody in the area! Including every team in the WCAC-MIAA! You can do a lot more up front if you can cover on the back end. Most if not all HS QB's get confused at the snap when a team can play 2-man. Because of their depth in the secondary thats an easy coverage for Wise to play vs BMAC. That alone will force BMAC to do something different offensively which they havent been known for. Running the ball!

On offense because of the talent and the variety of schemes that Wise runs BMAC has to play it honest. They remind me of the 2014 Bullis team that was extremely balanced on offense when looking at their stats and offense on tape. Wise has a 1400 yard back returning and they use him out of multiple sets and formations. And their top 4 WR's all had 20+ receptions on an offense that threw for close to 2600 yards. So BMAC has to choose its poison. Stop the run and hope to match up in the secondary or play coverage and hope their front 7 can stop Wise. Even then its an easy fix for Wise offensively. Tunnel, bubble, jet or some sort of RPO's which it appears they run offensively forces teams to widen when loaded in the box or get out of the box all together so they can get back to balance. 

Recently there has been several articles that has Maryland as a football hotbed. So for argument sake lets say the MIAA #1, WCAC #2 in the area who is #3? MD 4A? Lets give them that. Wise is a 2-time state champion that is a 5200 yard offensive team that plays in one of the top leagues in the state in one of the hottest recruiting regions in the country. Those are facts! BMAC would have issues ****ing with Wise and what they do on offense and the different schemes they can run on defense. Plus your dealing with a program thats used to winning and another that hasnt won anything. I would love to see BMAC take a swing at Wse and when WIse responds watch BMAC fold like they usually do. Its in their DNA to crumble.

 

Hahaha MIAA #1....Good joke. 

2016 

1. DM over SFA. 1-0 WCAC

2.) SJC over doesn't matter. 2-0 WCAC

3. GC over doesn't matter. Beat both MSJ and Spalding. 3-0 WCAC.

4.) McDonogh over Gonzaga. Being generous to the MIAA on this one because I'd have them as the #2 against SJC and it wouldn't be pretty. 3-1 WCAC

5.) BMac over Calvert Hall. No debate. One beat Riverdale Baptist and the other lost. 4-1 WCAC. 

6.) Loyola over SMR to make it a race...4-2 WCAC.

Any other knee slappers, TS?

Strength of local leagues...

1. WCAC

2.MIAA

Large Gap

3/4 Tie. 4A/3A

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