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SFA-DeMatha Scrimmage!

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3 hours ago, Silverbullet said:

That would actually be a very good question for Brooks. Personally, I'm taking the '15 team. I know that's kind of sacrilege. '98 was stacked, but for that day. They weren't rocking with 2/3 Power 5 backs in the backfield and an OL with 4 FBS starters. Football has come a tremendous way since then in this area. It has a lot to do with the influx of great coaching at the youth level. 

....and don't forget all the reclass'd mercenaries over the years.  There are certain expectations from scholarship athletes.....  :rolleyes:

Would '15 DeM be the team who beat AH and Central of Miami BigDroop drool over nearly each time he post here!!!  Would that be the team who bogus proclaimed themselves STATE CHAMPS aaC???

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6 hours ago, DMVFootball said:

Surprising that they couldn't run on RB with much consistency.  Their line was huge compared to RB's.  But no push.  QB was not accurate.  The LB's were pretty stout with good size.  DB's were mixed.  Soft in the middle. Corners were pretty good against the run.  But #4 got burned on what looked like a stop and go for about a 70 yard TD.  But he also had a nice pick 6.  RB's QB did a good job avoiding the rush and getting outside, but he wasn't getting much help from WR's.  No time to set or really find a guy open.  QB's were not getting hit - so hard to tell for sure. Booker was perhaps the biggest guy on the field.  Not as tall as I thought he would be.  RB was able to mostly run away from him.  He seemed gassed very early.  RB was in the game on the scoreboard.  But you wouldn't have known it from the body language.  It was hot. The heat really seemed to effect RB more.  Didn't help that it appeared they didn't have a team manager working the water.   The ref actually called them out on it.  Never seen that before.  Both teams will get better - and are better - than what they showed today.  Gilman has more upside.   But they do turn pedestrian fast after the first 6 or 7 guys as noted.  

DMV

Gilman had a big fundamentals issue of repeatedly not lining up properly.  The offensive plays on both sides were quite vanilla so it didn't take either defense long to figure the series of each other's offensive plays.  And yes, RBS is small in player sizes and numbers, about 35 or so, but they are fairly athletic.  I didn't think Gilman #4 was burned on that 70-yard RBS TD pass but rather he tripped over his own feet.  It wasn't a stop and go but more like the QB bought himself another second or two by stepping forward from the rush and delivering the ball going forward.   However yep, #4 was the one who got the 50-yard pick-6 weaving his way back down and across the field for the TD smartly picking up good blocks and an escort corps along the way.  Having seen RBS several times and the players seem to mirror their coach, I wouldn't take too much from the RBS team body language you mention.  They always look out of it or desperate.  But it was a fairly good outing for both teams.  Neither would fair well in a real game against DeM nor Wise, Quince Orchard, Damascus.

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7 hours ago, DMVFootball said:

Surprising that they couldn't run on RB with much consistency.  Their line was huge compared to RB's.  But no push.  QB was not accurate.  The LB's were pretty stout with good size.  DB's were mixed.  Soft in the middle. Corners were pretty good against the run.  But #4 got burned on what looked like a stop and go for about a 70 yard TD.  But he also had a nice pick 6.  RB's QB did a good job avoiding the rush and getting outside, but he wasn't getting much help from WR's.  No time to set or really find a guy open.  QB's were not getting hit - so hard to tell for sure. Booker was perhaps the biggest guy on the field.  Not as tall as I thought he would be.  RB was able to mostly run away from him.  He seemed gassed very early.  RB was in the game on the scoreboard.  But you wouldn't have known it from the body language.  It was hot. The heat really seemed to effect RB more.  Didn't help that it appeared they didn't have a team manager working the water.   The ref actually called them out on it.  Never seen that before.  Both teams will get better - and are better - than what they showed today.  Gilman has more upside.   But they do turn pedestrian fast after the first 6 or 7 guys as noted.  

Thanks for the report. Heard a couple of things last night about the scrimmage. Gilman didn't have their new transfer, who would have really made RB look small. Heard their defense looked much improve. QB play is going to be an issue. Was told that they kept some players out because of injury. Booker is a legit 6'4, but very stout, maybe that's why he didn't seem tall to you. I think that Gilman will definitely make the playoffs, and probably only loses to SFA and McDonogh. 

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4 minutes ago, GREYHOUND ALUM said:

Thanks for the report. Heard a couple of things last night about the scrimmage. Gilman didn't have their new transfer, who would have really made RB look small. Heard their defense looked much improve. QB play is going to be an issue. Was told that they kept some players out because of injury. Booker is a legit 6'4, but very stout, maybe that's why he didn't seem tall to you. I think that Gilman will definitely make the playoffs, and probably only loses to SFA and McDonogh. 

You can't just forget about Spalding,  they have some of the top lineman in the league and return a bunch of guys. They will be tough to beat still

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48 minutes ago, jbmad said:

You can't just forget about Spalding,  they have some of the top lineman in the league and return a bunch of guys. They will be tough to beat still

I think Spalding will have major issues with their QB. Coaching is going to be their trump card. Will give them a serious edge. I just think that Madison, Booker and Spanky are so good, that they just give Gilman something no team has in the MIAA, even SFA. McDonogh has Ellis, but they're handcuffed by playing him at QB. If he wasn't at QB, they would be special. I think you will see a much different Gilman team this year. 

SFA wins the title and should beat every team very easily. Outside of them, should be McDonogh but outside of Ellis and Mustipher(who I'm not huge on), they have some good players but nothing special. Love Jabriel at RB, but he's not Madison or Spanky. 

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Kyle may have the best offensive mind in the league, he develops Qbs better than anyone in league. I am sure they will be ok at the Qb position,  just don't sleep on them

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13 minutes ago, jbmad said:

Kyle may have the best offensive mind in the league, he develops Qbs better than anyone in league. I am sure they will be ok at the Qb position,  just don't sleep on them

They have Umbarger there, great athlete and player, not a QB. He's a poor man's Dejuan Ellis, same sort of passer and not even close to being the same sort of athlete. 

My question is, why does Spalding play such a weak schedule? I love Kyle as a coach, but he still seems like he thinks he's coaching in Howard County! His schedule's are so bad! Kind of like what CHC use to do. I can't respect not challenging your team. 

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21 minutes ago, GREYHOUND ALUM said:

They have Umbarger there, great athlete and player, not a QB. He's a poor man's Dejuan Ellis, same sort of passer and not even close to being the same sort of athlete. 

My question is, why does Spalding play such a weak schedule? I love Kyle as a coach, but he still seems like he thinks he's coaching in Howard County! His schedule's are so bad! Kind of like what CHC use to do. I can't respect not challenging your team. 

Their schedule is weak?:o As I look it over all I see is playoff teams for their OOC games. Please advise maybe Im confused. Thanks

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3 minutes ago, Tomslick said:

Their schedule is weak?:o As I look it over all I see is playoff teams for their OOC games. Please advise maybe Im confused. Thanks

Actually, you're right. This year's schedule isn't that weak. They did pick it up for this season. Only because they're playing the Florida school. 

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1 hour ago, GREYHOUND ALUM said:

Actually, you're right. This year's schedule isn't that weak. They did pick it up for this season. Only because they're playing the Florida school. 

Only because of the florida school? Bump Florida football! The DMV has a pretty good record vs florida teams.  And that goes all the way down to the lower leagues. We have been kicking their tails for some time now. 

Maybe its just me! 

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Final score of the scrimmage was DM 31-21, 17-14 as noted at the end of the first half.  Tyler Lenhart was an incredible 11 for 14 for 275 yards and two tds, 72 and 74 yard scores. In one half! Gregory and Fontaine did not play for DM. Kyle McFadden on Marylandsportsaccess.com has a detailed writeup of the scrimmage.

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2 minutes ago, BigDrop said:

Final score of the scrimmage was DM 31-21, 17-14 as noted at the end of the first half.  Tyler Lenhart was an incredible 11 for 14 for 275 yards and two tds, 72 and 74 yard scores.  Gregory and Fontaine did not play for DM.

That speaks to the time in pads vs the time not in pads. IMO

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2 minutes ago, Tomslick said:

That speaks to the time in pads vs the time not in pads. IMO

Tyler Lenhart's performance speaks for itself:  11 for 14 for 275 yards and two long tds plus a 70+ yard drive in the last minute of the first half.  Read the game report on marylandsportsaccess.com

 

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1 minute ago, BigDrop said:

Tyler Lenhart's performance speaks for itself:  11 for 14 for 275 yards and two long tds plus a 70+ yard drive in the last minute of the first half.  Read the game report on marylandsportsaccess.com

 

Good stuff but timing is everything. And if we are going to make it bigger than it is then we have to also be realistic about it. Two days in pads vs a team thats in its 3rd scrimmage who also went away to team camp. Did SFA go away to team camp? Please advise?

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37 minutes ago, Tomslick said:

Only because of the florida school? Bump Florida football! The DMV has a pretty good record vs florida teams.  And that goes all the way down to the lower leagues. We have been kicking their tails for some time now. 

Maybe its just me! 

Annapolis and Friendship isn't some tough OOC schedule and Good Counsel is an annual game for them. So, the Florida team is the only thing that makes this schedule not weak. 

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13 minutes ago, Tomslick said:

Good stuff but timing is everything. And if we are going to make it bigger than it is then we have to also be realistic about it. Two days in pads vs a team thats in its 3rd scrimmage who also went away to team camp. Did SFA go away to team camp? Please advise?

I agree, I think SFA should feel really good about this scrimmage. 17-14 with the ones, DeMatha had guys out but so did SFA. The third scrimmage and the great backfield we keep hearing about, averages less than two yards a carry. I would take that. Not to mention, team full of transfers, that will only get better as the season goes along. 

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If anyone thinks this team has only been working out for a week, you obviously did not watch the scrimmage,  quarterbacks do not run that offense that efficiently without some time together. 

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3 minutes ago, jbmad said:

If anyone thinks this team has only been working out for a week, you obviously did not watch the scrimmage,  quarterbacks do not run that offense that efficiently without some time together. 

Not sure how long they've been together, but they definitely haven't been in pads as long as DM, and definitely was their first scrimmage to DM's third. Major difference. 

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From what I saw yesterday,  I think they may be tested by some teams. IMO they are about the same as last year's team if not slightly down. Basically the addition of Lee just takes place of Thomas. Qb from last year was more seasoned IMO, RB last was better than what played yesterday and if Savage doesn't run that hurts IMO. I understand the SJC transfer did not play. Dbs are really gonna have to improve. And the coaching this year will revert to old issues so I would say that will be down also. Should have stayed in Michigan 

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21 minutes ago, GREYHOUND ALUM said:

Annapolis and Friendship isn't some tough OOC schedule and Good Counsel is an annual game for them. So, the Florida team is the only thing that makes this schedule not weak. 

Please explain why two 11-2 state playoff teams dont matter?

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8 minutes ago, jbmad said:

From what I saw yesterday,  I think they may be tested by some teams. IMO they are about the same as last year's team if not slightly down. Basically the addition of Lee just takes place of Thomas. Qb from last year was more seasoned IMO, RB last was better than what played yesterday and if Savage doesn't run that hurts IMO. I understand the SJC transfer did not play. Dbs are really gonna have to improve. And the coaching this year will revert to old issues so I would say that will be down also. Should have stayed in Michigan 

Thomas isn't even close to being as good as Lee. Bangda is a huge improvement over the RB from last year. Haven't seen the QB's, so can't speak on that. But, it's the first scrimmage, think you're making way more out of what they will look like from it. I saw SFA's first game last year against a bad Avalon team, and they looked horrible. To stick with a DM team, that some say is better than last year's team, says a lot to me. 

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8 minutes ago, jbmad said:

From what I saw yesterday,  I think they may be tested by some teams. IMO they are about the same as last year's team if not slightly down. Basically the addition of Lee just takes place of Thomas. Qb from last year was more seasoned IMO, RB last was better than what played yesterday and if Savage doesn't run that hurts IMO. I understand the SJC transfer did not play. Dbs are really gonna have to improve. And the coaching this year will revert to old issues so I would say that will be down also. Should have stayed in Michigan 

What does that say about the team they just hit? :o Speaks volume to me and maybe they have some concerns too. 

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1 minute ago, GREYHOUND ALUM said:

Thomas isn't even close to being as good as Lee. Bangda is a huge improvement over the RB from last year. Haven't seen the QB's, so can't speak on that. But, it's the first scrimmage, think you're making way more out of what they will look like from it. I saw SFA's first game last year against a bad Avalon team, and they looked horrible. To stick with a DM team, that some say is better than last year's team, says a lot to me. 

You were thinking the same thing I was...It does say a lot!

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5 minutes ago, Tomslick said:

Please explain why two 11-2 state playoff teams dont matter?

Seriously? You need me to explain why Annapolis is a weak team? Who cares if they made the playoffs? They play in a weak Anne Arundel County league and plays nothing but Anne Arundel County teams every year but this one.

What other 11-2 state playoff team do they play? The Florida team? 

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6 minutes ago, GREYHOUND ALUM said:

Thomas isn't even close to being as good as Lee. Bangda is a huge improvement over the RB from last year. Haven't seen the QB's, so can't speak on that. But, it's the first scrimmage, think you're making way more out of what they will look like from it. I saw SFA's first game last year against a bad Avalon team, and they looked horrible. To stick with a DM team, that some say is better than last year's team, says a lot to me. 

Thomas was a beast, Shane may be a better run stopper but Thomas was very good in pass defense as well as the run. 

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