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Gun ownership in Switzerland.

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Maybe the US government should make a mandatory enlistment for a year or 2 . Look up snopes.com.

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Don't know if it's still True but I read Years ago that if you were in the Swiss Military you kept your Field Weapon at home with you. Cool!

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1 minute ago, Bartman said:

Don't know if it's still True but I read Years ago that if you were in the Swiss Military you kept your Field Weapon at home with you. Cool!

Yes. Until you aged out then you have it up. Your "field weapon" was a fairly standard rifle. We're talking Switzerland.

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20 minutes ago, ms maggie said:

Your "field weapon" was a fairly standard rifle. We're talking Switzerland.

You call a SIG 550 5.56mm fully automatic assault rifle (700 rpm) a "fairly standard rifle"?

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Just now, Bluto said:

You call a SIG 550 5.56mm fully automatic assault rifle (700 rpm) a "fairly standard rifle"?

When I lived in Germany it was a standard rifle, this was years ago. 

This is exactly what our second amendment was meant to do.

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3 minutes ago, Bluto said:

You call a SIG 550 5.56mm fully automatic assault rifle (700 rpm) a "fairly standard rifle"?

I think it is theses days.

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4 minutes ago, ms maggie said:

When I lived in Germany it was a standard rifle, this was years ago. 

This is exactly what our second amendment was meant to do.

I was about to say that Switzerland is an example of how your 2nd amendment was originally intended to be operated, "a well regulated militia" ... and all that.

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37 minutes ago, daravenator said:

Maybe the US government should make a mandatory enlistment for a year or 2 . Look up snopes.com.

You started the thread.  Please provide a link to Snopes.

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4 minutes ago, ms maggie said:

When I lived in Germany it was a standard rifle, this was years ago. 

This is exactly what our second amendment was meant to do.

And today the standard Swiss Army issued rifle is the Sturmgewehr 90 assault rifle, a fully automatic SIG 550 5.56mm machine gun.

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46 minutes ago, daravenator said:

Maybe the US government should make a mandatory enlistment for a year or 2 . Look up snopes.com.

Yes, I'm sure saddling our 1.2 million active duty personnel with 4-8 million conscripts is going to go really well.

Do you even think these things through at all before you just poop them out?

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45 minutes ago, Bartman said:

Don't know if it's still True but I read Years ago that if you were in the Swiss Military you kept your Field Weapon at home with you. Cool!

Not anymore. Although it is still possible for a former soldier to buy his firearm after he finishes military service, he must provide a justification for keeping the weapon and apply for a permit.

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Before people get too excited about Swiss firearms laws, they probably should go look them up, especially the concealed carry part.

And the Swiss are really an example of what responsible people look like, not a country full of gun-porn, cool-guy idiots. The last 30 years has seen our country go from one that on the whole respects firearms and uses them as tools to gun shops being an adult Toys R Us. Ridiculous.

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What about ammo in Switzerland?

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9 minutes ago, hst2 said:

What about ammo in Switzerland?

Extremely tightly regulated and controlled, see my previous link.

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24 minutes ago, bmorepunk said:

Before people get too excited about Swiss firearms laws, they probably should go look them up, especially the concealed carry part.

And the Swiss are really an example of what responsible people look like, not a country full of gun-porn, cool-guy idiots. The last 30 years has seen our country go from one that on the whole respects firearms and uses them as tools to gun shops being an adult Toys R Us. Ridiculous.

And there in lies the real issue.  It is not the guns that are the problem, it is the culture.  If the US culture were different, the gun violence would not be the huge problem it is.  Perhaps we should look at ways to change the culture, although it is probably too far gone to change at this point.  

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38 minutes ago, cprenegade said:

And there in lies the real issue.  It is not the guns that are the problem, it is the culture.  If the US culture were different, the gun violence would not be the huge problem it is.  Perhaps we should look at ways to change the culture, although it is probably too far gone to change at this point.  

Considering any form of gun control or even debate on gun control is considered by many to be full blown confiscation in the works, pretty tough to change the culture.  I was accused of this yesterday on this board when I suggested that should be some way to track a person purchasing dozens of guns across 4 states.

And then of course Americans are both proudly violent and stupid.  This isn't changing.

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I think you need a permit to own a weapon in Switzerland and they won't sell guns to people with mental problems.

You know, they have common sense gun laws.

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3 minutes ago, JoyinMudville said:

I think you need a permit to own a weapon in Switzerland and they won't sell guns to people with mental problems.

You know, they have common sense gun laws.

What are some mental heath issues that would keep you from purchasing a weapon?

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4 hours ago, Eastsider said:

What are some mental heath issues that would keep you from purchasing a weapon?

I don't know, being nuts?

There's this thing called, "Google", you should try it.

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They have those really cool Swiss Army Knives. 

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4 minutes ago, JoyinMudville said:

I don't know, being nuts?

There's this thing called, "Google", you should try it.

What like deez nuts?

 

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7 hours ago, ivanbalt said:

Considering any form of gun control or even debate on gun control is considered by many to be full blown confiscation in the works, pretty tough to change the culture.  I was accused of this yesterday on this board when I suggested that should be some way to track a person purchasing dozens of guns across 4 states.

And then of course Americans are both proudly violent and stupid.  This isn't changing.

I wasn't talking about the gun culture.   More along the lines of your last line, overall American culture in general.  America has always been a somewhat violence loving culture, but decades ago there was some responsibility and restraint.  The breakdown in our society has led to subset culture of criminals who are very willing to punctuate any crime with the use of gun, and now we are seeing a subset of people who wish to express themselves in a violent outburst designed to kill as many as possible before taking their own lives.  Switzerland does not seem to share that dysfunction with us.  

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23 hours ago, FatBoy said:

They have those really cool Swiss Army Knives. 

You can buy one at any mall .......

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