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CUMBERLAND TIMES-NEWS
by Todd Helmick

TEAM FROM FLORIDA TO PLAY AT FORT HILL SATURDAY NIGHT

On Saturday night October 14 a team from the state of Florida will travel to Cumberland, MD to play a varsity football game against Fort Hill High School under the Greenway Avenue Stadium lights. The visiting team is Melbourne Central Catholic out of Melbourne, FL. Kickoff is set for 7:00 pm.

In 82 years of Fort Hill football, the farthest a team has ever traveled to tackle the Sentinels was Bishop O'Reilly out of Kingston, PA in 1993 - a total of 238 miles away. Melbourne Central Catholic will make the 981 mile trek via air, also marking the first time a team has ever flown here to play Fort Hill.

The four time consecutive Maryland state champion Sentinels are currently undefeated at 6-0. They are pursuing a state record fifth consecutive state championship, have lost one game in five years (60 out of their last 61 games) and hold a local area record of 31 straight victories.

Doing things for the first time in school history also creates a large array of off-the-field considerations for the first time from financing to plane, bus and hotel plans to feeding an entire team for an entire weekend. Melbourne Central Catholic will fly into Washington, DC on Friday afternoon and bus to Cumberland for a two night hotel stay before flying back out of DC Sunday afternoon.

In today's world of high school football these type of long distance match ups are no longer a rare occurrence per say, especially for private schools. But that is not the case for either of these opponents. Melbourne Central Catholic did make a 534 mile bus trip to start their season off against Georgia Buford, a Top 50 USA Today program who has won seven state championships in the last 11 years. Other than that, traveling outside the Sunshine State is not something Melbourne Central Catholic is accustomed to doing, but it's something they would like to become according to head coach Stacy Sizemore. Cumberland will be one of the first steps in achieving such a status.

Turning the wheels to make a game such as this happen isn't easy, especially for Fort Hill - a small Maryland Class 1A public school. First, the coaching staff has to be convinced. Unfortunately for Fort Hill there were no other options available for this date. Several attempts were made to land a team from Canada and another with a West Virginia team over four hours away. Basically a slim to none list of choices which in turn made the decision to tussle with a Florida school a must just to get to a nine game schedule.

Second, the people in charge of money have to be convinced. That task falls on Fort Hill principal Joe Carter. Not many in his educational position, if any at all, are faced with such a conundrum. In the end it became obvious that just to get the Fort Hill team a ninth football game - when they still needed 10 - was worth the risk/reward. In business the adage one has to spend money to make money is absolutely the truth. But rarely ever are educational administrators at any school required to be in the business of spending money to make money. Luckily for Fort Hill football they usually put fannies in the seats which equates to money at the gate.

With as much said, for any Fort Hill graduate or fan living within a reasonable driving distance, it's vital they show up Saturday night and put those fannies into those seats. This is a major worry when taking on such a financial risk and support is crucial. Through the past decade or so student enrollments and population declines in Cumberland have hurt the numbers of those fannies in seats. This game requires special notice. It's never been done in 82 years. It's the wide open Florida speed versus the traditional Cumberland wing-T power football.

The Melbourne Central Catholic Hustlers advanced to the semifinals in Florida Class 3A last season with an undefeated record before losing to Miami area powerhouse Chaminade-Madonna. They are led by 6'2" quarterback Joaquin Collazo, who as a junior last season threw for over 2,000 yards with 26 touchdown passes in a wide open spread passing attack. Six players on the 2017 roster have Division I college football offers. The Hustlers enter the game against Fort Hill with a 4-2 record and last week were listed as the 39th ranked team in the state of Florida.

Of course when mentioning any team from Florida there is no escaping what recent Hurricane Irma meant for so many residents. For Melbourne Central Catholic two games were cancelled, power was out and the school was closed for over a week. One of their post-Irma opponents east of Tampa had their entire football field underwater for an extended time. Many schools in that part of the country are now playing games on Friday and again on the following Monday to make up for lost games, something this private school from Melbourne also had to undertake just last week. The thought of not traveling to Cumberland never crossed anyone's mind in Melbourne. In fact, playing the game was imperative with the cancellations already noted and non-refundable deposits already paid on details such as airfare.

A MARYLAND CONNECTION
The Melbourne Central Catholic athletic teams are called the Hustlers. The name came from one of the founding school priests who attended the University of Maryland when former head football coach Tom Nugent in 1962 referred to his offensive specialists as the 'Hustlers'. The University of Maryland Library explains how the name became permanent.
LINK: https://umdarchives.wordpress.com/2013/12/12/the-university-of-maryland-hustlers/

Melbourne is located in Brevard County Florida on the Atlantic coast halfway between Daytona Beach and Fort Lauderdale and situated just a hair south of Cocoa Beach/Cape Canaveral.

If you are looking for some entertainment this coming Saturday night, make the trip to Cumberland for some top notch high school football. Fans are encouraged to purchase presale tickets, which will be sold at Fort Hill High School on Tuesday and Thursday from 8:30 am to 12:30 pm in the Athletic Director's office. Enter through the gymnasium doors. The cost is $5. Stadium Pizza is not included but will be piping hot and ready when these two high-octane powers clash for a once in three generation life time.

 

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The weather is supposed to be good and and I know a lot of people on this board and others are looking forward to a chance of Fort Hill losing lol.

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5 minutes ago, Waggle Pass said:

The weather is supposed to be good and and I know a lot of people on this board and others are looking forward to a chance of Fort Hill losing lol.

You must be kidding Waggle.  I think quite a few of us are pulling for Fort Hill.

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18 minutes ago, Waggle Pass said:

The weather is supposed to be good and and I know a lot of people on this board and others are looking forward to a chance of Fort Hill losing lol.

Most people are pulling for Fort Hill in this one. I can only think of one or two posters on here who actively cheer against MD teams when playing OOS teams. Very cool that they scheduled the game. 

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1 hour ago, Silverbullet said:

Most people are pulling for Fort Hill in this one. I can only think of one or two posters on here who actively cheer against MD teams when playing OOS teams. Very cool that they scheduled the game. 

You always talk of what everyone think or would do or in the this case who "most" would pull for....  Contrary to my man Sho's thought, the vamp doesn't think most here even care about the Florida team - Fort Hill match-up.  Now someone tell me I'm wrong, I dare you!

Anyway DC, who will YOU cheer for when Fort Hill meet Friendship Collegiate Academy of DC in the coming weeks Mr. DC Sniper?  Will you side with western MD against your Chevy Chase area team of DC, essentially an OOS team of Fort Hill or will YOU go with Fort Hill, the MD team?  Maybe one or two posters on here and perhaps a heck of lot more just cheer against you and yours against anyone, in or out of state....  Some would call it the GreyHound Alum Syndrome (having GAS).  You ever considered that CC with your northeast boarding school prep education?

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1 hour ago, Waggle Pass said:

The weather is supposed to be good and and I know a lot of people on this board and others are looking forward to a chance of Fort Hill losing lol.

Nah WP, that pleasure of beating Fort Hill I really think AlCo wants to do in maybe meeting 2 this season.  Wouldn't you agree....  :rolleyes:

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1 hour ago, DayWalker said:

You always talk of what everyone think or would do or in the this case who "most" would pull for....  Contrary to my man Sho's thought, the vamp doesn't think most here even care about the Florida team - Fort Hill match-up.  Now someone tell me I'm wrong, I dare you!

Anyway DC, who will YOU cheer for when Fort Hill meet Friendship Collegiate Academy of DC in the coming weeks Mr. DC Sniper?  Will you side with western MD against your Chevy Chase area team of DC, essentially an OOS team of Fort Hill or will YOU go with Fort Hill, the MD team?  Maybe one or two posters on here and perhaps a heck of lot more just cheer against you and yours against anyone, in or out of state....  Some would call it the GreyHound Alum Syndrome (having GAS).  You ever considered that CC with your northeast boarding school prep education?

I was referring to posters that are actually from MD. You don't matter. Sorry for the confusion, DW.

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1 hour ago, Silverbullet said:

I was referring to posters that are actually from MD. You don't matter. Sorry for the confusion, DW.

Liar Liar...you weren't referring to posters "from MD"  That I am not at all confused about Liar Liar, right Sniper?  Still having GAS...and talkin' out your butt...  :rolleyes:

 

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On 10/9/2017 at 0:29 PM, Silverbullet said:

Most people are pulling for Fort Hill in this one. I can only think of one or two posters on here who actively cheer against MD teams when playing OOS teams. Very cool that they scheduled the game. 

 

On 10/9/2017 at 1:31 PM, DayWalker said:

You always talk of what everyone think or would do or in the this case who "most" would pull for....  Contrary to my man Sho's thought, the vamp doesn't think most here even care about the Florida team - Fort Hill match-up.  Now someone tell me I'm wrong, I dare you!

Anyway DC, who will YOU cheer for when Fort Hill meet Friendship Collegiate Academy of DC in the coming weeks Mr. DC Sniper?  Will you side with western MD against your Chevy Chase area team of DC, essentially an OOS team of Fort Hill or will YOU go with Fort Hill, the MD team?  Maybe one or two posters on here and perhaps a heck of lot more just cheer against you and yours against anyone, in or out of state....  Some would call it the GreyHound Alum Syndrome (having GAS).  You ever considered that CC with your northeast boarding school prep education?

CC, you avoiding answering this question.....  Who are you cheering for between FCA and Fort Hill; the DC team or the MD team since you so supportive of MD over OOS opponents.  Clear this up for a doubting vamp Sniper....  Clear This Up and stop evading,,,,

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19 minutes ago, DayWalker said:

 

CC, you avoiding answering this question.....  Who are you cheering for between FCA and Fort Hill; the DC team or the MD team since you so supportive of MD over OOS opponents.  Clear this up for a doubting vamp Sniper....  Clear This Up and stop evading,,,,

I'm impartial. It's not an OOS game. It's an OOC game. MD/DC is categorized as it's own state concerning high school national rankings. 

I'm very interested to see how this game plays out. I've got a lot of respect for FH's schedule this season. 

Work on your curve ball, DW. 

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1 hour ago, Silverbullet said:

I'm impartial. It's not an OOS game. It's an OOC game. MD/DC is categorized as it's own state concerning high school national rankings. 

I'm very interested to see how this game plays out. I've got a lot of respect for FH's schedule this season. 

Work on your curve ball, DW. 

:D   :D  yeah right DC SNIPER  :P   :P  You've now gone from claiming the DMV included the Tidewater/Hampton Roads area of southern VA to the DMV including BMore to now all MD and DC being one....  No wonder you thought lands Maryland and Virginia provided for the nation's capitol they took back and that DC is really MD.  Do you recall The DayWalker schooling you on that issue... And to think you had a private school education; northeast boarding nonetheless, a pride of Chevy Chase and DeMatha and all!!  You could almost be complete if you told us you attended the Wharton School of Business and know so many words and "can out IQ anyone"....

AnyWhaT, you would be about the 2nd person behind the guy who works Fort Hill schedule to have lots of respect for it.  Even FH folks beach about the years and years of ---- Ever heard the Cumberland term CUPCAKES .....so many of them claim and argue over FH may systematically book...  Yet you, my Chevy Chaser, have "a lot of respect" for the FH schedule this year. 

Impartial you say you are..... to not tell us who you support between Friendship Collegiatate Academy in DC and Fort Hill in MD speaks a deafening volume.  Oh how I love to see you squirm under the powerful thumbs of The DayWalker around your neck, metaphorically speaking of course!

:rolleyes:

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Melbourne Central Catholic has 6 players with D1 college offers. Here is their list if anyone is following the game.

#1 - Darnel Victor (6'2, 210) - OLB - Fordham
#2 - Lavonte Valentine (6'0, 200) - RB - SOUTH CAROLINA (Committed)
#9 - Zamari Walton (6'3, 164) - CB - GEORGIA TECH (Committed)
#11 - Lorenzo Hardy (6'3, 171) - WR - Southern Miss, Southern Illinois
#54 - Eric Johanning (6'4, 240) - DE - Army West Point
#58 - Dermont Morgan (6'5, 260) - DE - Southern Miss, Fordham, Western Illinois

#13 - Joaquin Collazo (6'2, 175) - QB - Tusculum College (D2)

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How 'bout Fort Hill's D1 college offers list for anyone following the game.  After all, we are talking about a 4-peat MD state champion are we not.....

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On 10/9/2017 at 0:06 PM, Waggle Pass said:

The weather is supposed to be good and and I know a lot of people on this board and others are looking forward to a chance of Fort Hill losing lol.

Nope.. I want them to be the #1 seed coming out the west.

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Fort Hill currently has grads Ty Johnson starting running back for MD and true freshman Brayden Brown getting his first start at UConn this week.

FH sees some kids into colleges, not as much for the D1 highlight reel, but this has to be a fairly unusual instance with two former grads starting D1 at the same time.

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10 minutes ago, sickofitall said:

Fort Hill currently has grads Ty Johnson starting running back for MD and true freshman Brayden Brown getting his first start at UConn this week.

FH sees some kids into colleges, not as much for the D1 highlight reel, but this has to be a fairly unusual instance with two former grads starting D1 at the same time.

Sick Sick Sick, I hear pimpin' ain't easy but tell us about Fort Hill High School players currently on the team....  Not interested in a FH history lesson or who's where in college right now cause you guys can go on forever presenting your history to us.  Your guy waltzed in here with a list of Melbourne D1 kids from that Florida school you are playing and I merely asked for you all to tell us your FH prime time players who are undefeated dropping 50, 60, 70 points on teams like you typically do.

Tell us about whose doing the do now with Fort Hill who will drop 50, 60, 70 points on the Florida team folks here say they are pulling for you while your guy again waltzed it here proclaiming we hope FH lose.

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4 hours ago, DayWalker said:

Sick Sick Sick, I hear pimpin' ain't easy but tell us about Fort Hill High School players currently on the team....  Not interested in a FH history lesson or who's where in college right now cause you guys can go on forever presenting your history to us.  Your guy waltzed in here with a list of Melbourne D1 kids from that Florida school you are playing and I merely asked for you all to tell us your FH prime time players who are undefeated dropping 50, 60, 70 points on teams like you typically do.

Tell us about whose doing the do now with Fort Hill who will drop 50, 60, 70 points on the Florida team folks here say they are pulling for you while your guy again waltzed it here proclaiming we hope FH lose.

 

From what I know, not many on this team have D1 offers. #4 has offers from Army and Navy I believe?... and that’s it. Not many other players fit that Home run mold at RB that got Johnson and Brown so sought after. They do have some good size on the line at the tackle spots and decent size on the interior and they’ll line up and plow a 5’9 200lb FB up the guy and mix in the sweeps and occasional PA. Not much has changed just some faces. They do have a 10th grade kicker who can kick 50+ And good depth. They’ll be in the running to grab 5/6 titles in a row

 

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20 minutes ago, CvilleComets1521 said:

 

From what I know, not many on this team have D1 offers. #4 has offers from Army and Navy I believe?... and that’s it. Not many other players fit that Home run mold at RB that got Johnson and Brown so sought after. They do have some good size on the line at the tackle spots and decent size on the interior and they’ll line up and plow a 5’9 200lb FB up the guy and mix in the sweeps and occasional PA. Not much has changed just some faces. They do have a 10th grade kicker who can kick 50+ And good depth. They’ll be in the running to grab 5/6 titles in a row

 

That pretty much sounds like the Fort Hill team I've known for over a decade or more; big linemen leading a FB that wear teams down and a kicker - punter who will force opponents to go 80 or more yards to score, what most high school teams have great difficulty consistently doing without big plays couple with skilled role players.  That's the Fort Hill - Todd Appel way is not....

But Snake has some good info on some specific Fort Hill players I found interesting more than the dry laundry list of Melbourne D1 kids....  Still, the two teams seem to be fairly evenly matched.  Good job TH, FSU alum!  Do this maybe three or four more times each season....   ;)

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Poster correct. Only D1 offer at FH is Luke Hamilton DE/HB. Offers from Army and Navy and those are another type of offer complete with a military commit.

Standard issue for Cumberland schools. A boat load of quality D2 and D3 kids that usually form a team capable of beating opponents with more stars by names. FH has a nice 6'7 OT in Gabe Logsdon that could play ball at the next level but no offers (hold on that might be Randy Edsall calling as I type this).

FH strengths this year are a huge OL that can move, another grinding FB (2016 state title game MVP) and a defense that has quickness across the board. The philosophy of taking DBs and LBs and weight rooming them into defensive linemen has been very successful. The way offenses are set up these days with spread formations it's difficult to field overweight defensive linemen who can't move so quick and be successful on defense with it. Washboard stomach linemen only. Lots of pressure and sacks. Offensively FH is using the scrum formation these days.Two tight ends and two wing backs. Basically 11 men in the box. You can probably guess what they run out of that formation...I'm waiting on the flying wedge Teddy Roosevelt outlawed in 1905 to reappear. Defenses blitzing 11 guys that has no effect slowing it down. They have weakness for sure. Just won't type them here ;)

 

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Oh come off the woe is me Tommy the Tank Engine That Can disposition TDH!!!!  We all here in BMore patently recognize it's pure doo-doo for you to hat-in-hand proclaim you are just a bunch of D2 - D3 players at best who come together to form a team who can beat opponents with MORE STARS.  Come on fellow, come on!  We are far more astute about Fort Hill football than that.  The DayWalker is telling you and yours to cut the Cumberland Con at SunSpot; that dawg won't hunt here.  As the Snake related, we are very well aware that::

  • Fort Hill is on the verge of winning 5 straight state championships.  We know the Sentinels set a school record last week, winning their 30th consecutive game.
  • It's known your Coach Todd Appel, in his 10th season, has the highest winning percentage in MPSSAA history, at .900 (108-12).
  • Snake 4-1-1 us the Sentinels have out-scored opponents 249-30 in 4 games, and are averaging 62.3 points per game, #1 in the state.
  • Beyond the dry list of player offers, Snake informed us of your Troy Banks who has scored 11 TDs in 4 games, and is averaging 10.6 yards per carry. We know of Brayden Poling and your outstanding kicker Danny Cox has hit 33 of 34 PATs and has stroked a 45 yard field goal.

You say Fort Hill's strength this year is a huge offensive line and grinding fullback.  What part of that has been Fort Hill's formula and strength and call to arms you didn't understand I already described about Fort Hill that has been this way for many many years; the way you operate???   Hell, your current Coach Scott Rice was that prototypical bruising Fort Hill fullback back in the day you still feature today but in another teen body.

So flush the small rural Cumberland boys taking on the big time Florida multi-D1 laden team persona and whether you can some how manage.  You and the Florida team appear to be a much more evenly matched contest if not Fort Hill is better.  It's just a great and frankly welcomed departure from your usual 50, 60, 70 point beat down opponents Fort Hill typically bring to slaughter that simply bore even your own fan base as well as us astute here.

So says The DayWalker  :P

Even winning 5 consecutive titles, will Fort Hill still historically be the 2nd best football team in Cumberland?  B)

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Even winning 5 consecutive titles, will Fort Hill still historically be the 2nd best football team in Cumberland?

Not gonna bite. Depends on who you ask. State titles or head to head? Same argument 82 years and counting. Big Blue a'int no joke. Eh? As I said September 1, if you don't stop the big man at FB Big Blue gonna roll you.

I tried to put MSJ on the schedule.

 

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10 minutes ago, TDHelmick said:

Not gonna bite. Depends on who you ask. State titles or head to head? Same argument 82 years and counting. Big Blue a'int no joke. Eh? As I said September 1, if you don't stop the big man at FB Big Blue gonna roll you.

I tried to put MSJ on the schedule.

 

:D  Ain't gonna bit TD???  It seems like a simple MPSSAA titles fact question.  Winning 5 consecutive title this year, what would be FH title count compared to AlCo?  Did you see the phrase "head-to-head" in my question?  Yet you want to utter crap about 80-years, who ain't a joke, and other deflective non-sense.  And I heard / read all the dialog about trying to get MSJ.  Spare a vamp....

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11 hours ago, TDHelmick said:

Poster correct. Only D1 offer at FH is Luke Hamilton DE/HB. Offers from Army and Navy and those are another type of offer complete with a military commit.

Standard issue for Cumberland schools. A boat load of quality D2 and D3 kids that usually form a team capable of beating opponents with more stars by names. FH has a nice 6'7 OT in Gabe Logsdon that could play ball at the next level but no offers (hold on that might be Randy Edsall calling as I type this).

FH strengths this year are a huge OL that can move, another grinding FB (2016 state title game MVP) and a defense that has quickness across the board. The philosophy of taking DBs and LBs and weight rooming them into defensive linemen has been very successful. The way offenses are set up these days with spread formations it's difficult to field overweight defensive linemen who can't move so quick and be successful on defense with it. Washboard stomach linemen only. Lots of pressure and sacks. Offensively FH is using the scrum formation these days.Two tight ends and two wing backs. Basically 11 men in the box. You can probably guess what they run out of that formation...I'm waiting on the flying wedge Teddy Roosevelt outlawed in 1905 to reappear. Defenses blitzing 11 guys that has no effect slowing it down. They have weakness for sure. Just won't type them here ;)

 

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Help me out. Got any Bmore City schools open for 2018? Have cash, will travel.

Cumberland rivalry a great thing. Ever been there week 10? Some of my best buds played on those late 80s Alco teams. They were no joke.

State Titles: Alco 8 FH 6
Head to Head: FH 57-32-4

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IF (and thats a serious if) FH were to win number 5 in a row. They would be at 7 titles to Alco's 8. 

But as you noted in my post above about the two past grads from FH playing in D1 right now, we're not interested in historical issues.

 

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