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Mississippi school district bans 'To Kill a Mockingbird‘

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WaPo:

The public school district in Biloxi, Miss., did not specify which words, exactly, in “To Kill a Mockingbird” are so objectionable that the book was yanked from an eighth-grade reading list last week, 57 years after it published.

“There is some language in the book that makes people uncomfortable,” school board vice president Kenny Holloway vaguely told the Sun Herald.

Some language. Maybe it’s the same language that concerned a Waukegan, Ill., school system in 1984; or a middle school principal in North Carolina in 2004; or Virginia’s tiny Accomack County School District when it cleansed its libraries of “Mockingbird” last year.

That is: the n-word, which this newspaper also censors — and which Harper Lee pointedly did not when she wrote her Pulitzer Prize-winning novel about racism in the United States.

“We can teach the same lesson with other books,” Holloway explained to the Herald last week.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/retropolis/wp/2017/10/15/the-ironic-enduring-legacy-of-banning-to-kill-a-mockingbird-for-racist-language/?utm_term=.301173af063b

 

Still no awareness of how the Confederate flag offends some people

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Just now, ivanbalt said:

Stupid.  One of the all time great books.

No kidding.

 

Reading that book in grade school actually made this kid from Nebraska understand the hate in this world at a very young age.

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Just plain ridiculous.  In general we as a people need to get over this avoidance of being uncomfortable.  Sometimes being made uncomfortable is absolutely necessary to get a point across.

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Instead of being banned, it should be required reading.

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It's ridiculous.  That book is needed to show what life was like back then so we don't repeat it.

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28 minutes ago, EgyptKang said:

It's ridiculous.  That book is needed to show what life was like back then so we don't repeat it.

Kind of like the way Confederate statues show what life was like back then so we don't repeat It?

I agree, it's ridiculous. 

Ridiculous that teachers and adults cannot use such icons as instructional tools instead of just casting them aside or destroying them.

 

 

 

 

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13 minutes ago, Apexbud said:

Kind of like the way Confederate statues show what life was like back then so we don't repeat It?

I agree, it's ridiculous. 

Ridiculous that teachers and adults cannot use such icons as instructional tools instead of just casting them aside or destroying them.

 

 

 

 

Actually NO!!!!  The statues  GLORIFY those idiots. See BOOKS particularly HISTORY books show the history that we shouldn't repeat. Statues are a tribute says NOTHING about the people.  For example Robert Lee was a very brutal slave owner. The statues NEVER tell that. 

NEXT,.

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8 minutes ago, EgyptKang said:

Actually NO!!!!  The statues  GLORIFY those idiots. See BOOKS particularly HISTORY books show the history that we shouldn't repeat. Statues are a tribute says NOTHING about the people.  For example Robert Lee was a very brutal slave owner. The statues NEVER tell that. 

NEXT,.

Link please.

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7 minutes ago, workerbee said:

Link please.

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1 hour ago, EgyptKang said:

Actually NO!!!!  The statues  GLORIFY those idiots. See BOOKS particularly HISTORY books show the history that we shouldn't repeat. Statues are a tribute says NOTHING about the people.  For example Robert Lee was a very brutal slave owner. The statues NEVER tell that. 

NEXT,.

You missed my point.

 

 

History books can show facts and timelines.

 Fiction like To Kill A Mockingbird, or Twain, or Stowe can set a stage and demonstrate the morals of the day, teaching a lesson. A modern parable. 

Confronting a physical example of the mindset of the Confederate supporter from the past, like a statue, can be a very powerful instructional tool in the hands of a good teacher.

Instead of tearing them down, there should be school field trips to them.

 

But that might require thinking from the so-called educators.

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7 hours ago, Apexbud said:

You missed my point.

 

 

History books can show facts and timelines.

 Fiction like To Kill A Mockingbird, or Twain, or Stowe can set a stage and demonstrate the morals of the day, teaching a lesson. A modern parable. 

Confronting a physical example of the mindset of the Confederate supporter from the past, like a statue, can be a very powerful instructional tool in the hands of a good teacher.

Instead of tearing them down, there should be school field trips to them.

 

But that might require thinking from the so-called educators.

The real lessons to be learned from the statues comes from reading about race relations in America , and the words of the supporters of the statues, at the time they went up.

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1 hour ago, hst2 said:

The real lessons to be learned from the statues comes from reading about race relations in America , and the words of the supporters of the statues, at the time they went up.

Precisely. Those statues were put up as a means to intimidate and glorify those idiots for their beliefs.

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11 hours ago, Apexbud said:

Kind of like the way Confederate statues show what life was like back then so we don't repeat It?

lol? no

the statues were set up to glorify the 'men' and intimidate minorities.  total false equivalency

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The book isn't banned. It's still in libraries. It's just not required reading as it was when I attended high school.

Edited by Sprightly

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'To Kill a Mockingbird' is one of my most favourite books. I agree with others, it should be required reading at schools, and if it makes some people feel 'uncomfortable' all well and good. I found Lee's follow up novel, 'Go Set a Watchman', to be a little dissapointing, to me it had the effect of spoiling her first work.

Edited by WKDWZD

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3 hours ago, hst2 said:

The real lessons to be learned from the statues comes from reading about race relations in America , and the words of the supporters of the statues, at the time they went up.

If the so-called educators have taught their students to read for comprehension. 

Having "To Kill A Mockingbird" in the library is a waste of a fine book if you can't read it.

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2 hours ago, EgyptKang said:

Precisely. Those statues were put up as a means to intimidate and glorify those idiots for their beliefs.

Looks like it's still working.

Flip the script and make it an educational tool for students of today.

That's more powerful then tearing them down.

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2 hours ago, yeah said:

lol? no

the statues were set up to glorify the 'men' and intimidate minorities.  total false equivalency

Don't allow mere statues to intimidate you.

Rise above the glorification of men 150 years dead, and teach their mistakes so it won't be repeated.

Lessons like that can be taught many times, but destroying a statue is very much like removing a book from a library.

 

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13 hours ago, hst2 said:

Thanks h.  

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38 minutes ago, Apexbud said:

Don't allow mere statues to intimidate you.

Rise above the glorification of men 150 years dead, and teach their mistakes so it won't be repeated.

Lessons like that can be taught many times, but destroying a statue is very much like removing a book from a library.

 

Not even close. :unsure:

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43 minutes ago, Apexbud said:

Don't allow mere statues to intimidate you.

Rise above the glorification of men 150 years dead, and teach their mistakes so it won't be repeated.

Lessons like that can be taught many times, but destroying a statue is very much like removing a book from a library.

 

So, were the folks in Russia wring to remove their statues of Marx and Lenin?  

Should the airaquis have allowed the numerous statues of Saadsm Hussein to remain untoppled?

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3 hours ago, yeah said:

lol? no

the statues were set up to glorify the 'men' and intimidate minorities.  total false equivalency

Interesting how they come up with a narrative to justify their racism eh

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