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Half of Millennials would prefer to live in a socialist or communist country

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4 minutes ago, Bartman said:

I was born in the 50's and raised thru the 60's. I remember the Cuban Missile Crisis and the day JFK was shot. Communism/Socialism was/is the Worst thing in the world to me, well excepting maybe now Islam. To me that's less of a Religion and more like a Cult that Enslaves and Murders people. What Hippies raised You?  

:lol::lol: You should stick to talking about Vegas. 

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3 minutes ago, Bartman said:

I was born in the 50's and raised thru the 60's. I remember the Cuban Missile Crisis and the day JFK was shot. Communism/Socialism was/is the Worst thing in the world to me, well excepting maybe now Islam. To me that's less of a Religion and more like a Cult that Enslaves and Murders people. What Hippies raised You?  

Born in 1947 and not raised by hippies.  You sound like a sad little man still living in the 50's.

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3 minutes ago, Bartman said:

I was born in the 50's and raised thru the 60's. I remember the Cuban Missile Crisis and the day JFK was shot. Communism/Socialism was/is the Worst thing in the world to me, well excepting maybe now Islam. To me that's less of a Religion and more like a Cult that Enslaves and Murders people. What Hippies raised You?  

:lol:

The first world loves some capitalism because they don't have to witness the cost in poorer countries.

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22 hours ago, Saticon3 said:

why didn't you stay in utopia?

He probably wanted to have something to complain about and utopia wouldn't give him any reasons had he stayed there. :D 

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23 hours ago, Saticon3 said:

why didn't you stay in utopia?

is that the best you can up with? I understand the things you don't understand frighten you....explains why you don't understand other cultures....I believe every american should live in another country for a year or two just so they can get a better perspective on the world...

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44 minutes ago, Ode2Joy said:

He probably wanted to have something to complain about and utopia wouldn't give him any reasons had he stayed there. :D 

nope....wrong answer....but wouldn't expect anything from such a sad little person...you going to follow me everywhere?

how's that Russian Hoax working out for you?

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12 minutes ago, can you hear me now! said:

is that the best you can up with? I understand the things you don't understand frighten you....explains why you don't understand other cultures....I believe every american should live in another country for a year or two just so they can get a better perspective on the world...

I believe that travel broadens the mind, I don't think that one needs to live in another country for 'a year or two' but one does need to visit other cultures, under their own steam and get to meet the local people. I have yet to visit a new country and not come away with a different view from my pre-conceived ideas.

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9 hours ago, mrsmlh said:

 

 Yes, but these are the types of countries that most millennials and some others think of when talking about socialist countries.

Which is why most millennials are idiots.

Denmark has a market economy. The state does not control the means of production. Denmark does have higher taxes which it uses for state-run health care - essentially single payer. It also has a more generous social safety net in terms of things like disability and unemployment insurance.

That doesn't make it a socialist country.

Most millennials would not want to live in a socialist countries, they're just too poorly educated to realize it.

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1 hour ago, WKDWZD said:

I believe that travel broadens the mind, I don't think that one needs to live in another country for 'a year or two' but one does need to visit other cultures, under their own steam and get to meet the local people. I have yet to visit a new country and not come away with a different view from my pre-conceived ideas.

I agree. We still have the best pizza.

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9 minutes ago, JoyinMudville said:

Which is why most millennials are idiots.

Denmark has a market economy. The state does not control the means of production. Denmark does have higher taxes which it uses for state-run health care - essentially single payer. It also has a more generous social safety net in terms of things like disability and unemployment insurance.

That doesn't make it a socialist country.

Most millennials would not want to live in a socialist countries, they're just too poorly educated to realize it.

Since all the millennials I know are college graduations, that doesn't say much for our higher education system.

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14 hours ago, ms maggie said:

Certainly. What specifically isn't scalable?

I suppose on paper it all works out fine no matter what the country. Of course, on paper Iraq should be a prosperous functional democracy. I think what this country lacks is the buy in from the overwhelming majority of the population. We had it from FDR to LBJ and then it started to fall apart. You can see it starting to fray in Europe now as well.

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1 hour ago, WKDWZD said:

I believe that travel broadens the mind, I don't think that one needs to live in another country for 'a year or two' but one does need to visit other cultures, under their own steam and get to meet the local people. I have yet to visit a new country and not come away with a different view from my pre-conceived ideas.

Visits are too short in my opinion. Most travelers on short trips tend to stick to things promoted by tour companies or local governments.. Getting off the beaten path tends leads to more interesting experiences. I learned a lot more about your country living there (twice) than I ever would have had I just visited. My wife and I did a lot of traveling by train. We'd pick a place and go there.

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10 hours ago, ivanbalt said:

In Venezuela's case, they built their corrupt socialist utopia on the basis of high prices for a single commodity, oil.  Doesn't matter what economic model you use if the foundation is corruption and stupidity.

The socialist economy is booming next door in Bolivia.

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1 hour ago, JoyinMudville said:

I agree. We still have the best pizza.

Ever tried one in Italy?

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19 minutes ago, WKDWZD said:

Ever tried one in Italy?

It stinks on ice. New York has the best slice

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13 hours ago, can you hear me now! said:

Visits are too short in my opinion. Most travelers on short trips tend to stick to things promoted by tour companies or local governments.. Getting off the beaten path tends leads to more interesting experiences. I learned a lot more about your country living there (twice) than I ever would have had I just visited. My wife and I did a lot of traveling by train. We'd pick a place and go there.

That is why I said "under their own steam". Our holidays are longer than yours are generally. I would usually take 2 or 3 weeks. We take tour company flights and villas but never do the follow the rep thing. I always look to eat where the locals eat and shun the tourist spots, and I always learn at least the basic pleasantries in that countries language, usually further communication is by sign language, lol. 

I remember once in Greece (in our favourite taverna) meeting a young American couple on an adjacent table and chatting till quite late. Also dining were a group of Americans about a dozen or so who were doing the bus tourist thing, around 11 o'clock they all got up and retired as they were all bussing to Olympia the next morning. By this time the young American couple had joined us on our table and we continued our chat into the night. We knew the taverna owners very well and knew that there was going to be a private party when the other diners had left. Sure enough, when there was just our table left, we were invited into the inner dining room and joined the company of the Greek people. Our new American friends were also invited in and they were treated to the 'real thing', more food and drink, music, dancing, party tricks etc and were accepted in as friends. In the small hours of the morning we eventually had to go, our new friends also had to travel on the next day, (I'll never know if they did, but if they did it would have been with a serious headache). On saying our goodbyes, they said, "no one would ever believe this back home". They were treated to real Greek custom and friendship. There is more to the story of the American group, who were staying above the taverna, but I've  waffled on too long already. 😉

Edited by WKDWZD
Corrected Olympus to Olympia

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1 hour ago, WKDWZD said:

That is why I said "under their own steam". Our holidays are longer than yours are generally. I would usually take 2 or 3 weeks. We take tour company flights and villas but never do the follow the rep thing. I always look to eat where the locals eat and shun the tourist spots, and I always learn at least the basic pleasantries in that countries language, usually further communication is by sign language, lol. 

I remember once in Greece (in our favourite taverna) meeting a young American couple on an adjacent table and chatting till quite late. Also dining were a group of Americans about a dozen or so who were doing the bus tourist thing, around 11 o'clock they all got up and retired as they were all bussing to Olympus the next morning. By this time the young American couple had joined us on our table and we continued our chat into the night. We knew the taverna owners very well and knew that there was going to be a private party when the other diners had left. Sure enough, when there was just our table left, we were invited into the inner dining room and joined the company of the Greek people. Our new American friends were also invited in and they were treated to the 'real thing', more food and drink, music, dancing, party tricks etc and were accepted in as friends. In the small hours of the morning we eventually had to go, our new friends also had to travel on the next day, (I'll never know if they did, but if they did it would have been with a serious headache). On saying our goodbyes, they said, "no one would ever believe this back home". They were treated to real Greek custom and friendship. There is more to the story of the American group, who were staying above the taverna, but I've  waffled on too long already. 😉

Yes, Europeans get a bit more vacation time that we do. You can waffle as long as you want. Brings back a lot of memories for me.  My wife and I had a similar experience in London. We stayed with at a B&B in Islington run by a chef who worked at one of the restaurants in Soho. Learned a lot about what goes on behind the scenes in a high end restaurant. That turned in to a night that ended sometime after dawn. We ended up staying at this B&B during all our visits. I miss those days....

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7 hours ago, Marshan Man said:

:lol::lol: You should stick to talking about Vegas. 

Will post Videos on YouTube & pics elsewhere after the 2nd week of Dec. when I'll be there. Still trying to decide whether I really want to lug a laptop along with me. One has a Cam in it and I can point the screen out the window & stream Live overlooking the Strip. Maybe just use my Phone & put stuff up after I get back. Don't know yet. Wanna take it and kinda do a Blog from there but maybe not. We'll See.

http://i.imgur.com/ABkKSUO.jpg

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10 hours ago, can you hear me now! said:

Yes, Europeans get a bit more vacation time that we do. You can waffle as long as you want. Brings back a lot of memories for me.  My wife and I had a similar experience in London. We stayed with at a B&B in Islington run by a chef who worked at one of the restaurants in Soho. Learned a lot about what goes on behind the scenes in a high end restaurant. That turned in to a night that ended sometime after dawn. We ended up staying at this B&B during all our visits. I miss those days....

A nice story and I have had a few similar adventures along the way.

To clarify, I used to get 6 weeks vacation a year before I retired and Mrs. W and I would always spend 2 or 3 weeks on each holiday, 7 days is a nice break but it doesn't afford enough time to really get to know the country that well.

Continuing the story of that Greek adventure for our American friends. A couple of days after that evening we were having lunch at that same taverna (Greek village salad, sardines and beer if I recall correctly), looking out over the Aegean Sea which was lapping the shore just a few feet from where we were sitting and the party of Americans came down to lunch, they had 4 or 5 tables pushed together (as the Greeks do) next to our table and had a typically Greek spread. I called over and asked them if they had enjoyed Olympia and maybe  hurled a javelin or two. One guy said "Hey you speak very good English", I said that's  probably because I am English, he said "oh, we saw you chatting away with the Greek people the other evening and assumed that you were Greek", I had a chuckle, have you ever seen a pink, fair skinned, blond Greek? Anyhoo, the point of this little story is to try an qualify my point about doing your own thing. No doubt the party of Americans would go home with memories and photos of Greece, would have seen all the sites, sampled the food but in a sort of regimental way. But who do you suppose got to see the 'real' Greece and sense it's culture, the party of Americans, or the young couple that we had shared an evening with?

Edited by WKDWZD

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12 hours ago, JoyinMudville said:

It stinks on ice. New York has the best slice

While I never want to give NY credit for anything, the big slice I got in Brooklyn years back was fantastic.  There was also a bar that gave out free pizza to patrons.

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