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On foreign soil: Donald Trump sides with Putin over US intelligence

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18 minutes ago, Boobie said:

Nothing new here, Bill Clinton decimated our intelligence capabilities which resulted in 9/11.  Obama decimated it too  resulting in  Benghazi.  Intelligence networks take years to build, President Trump is impatient when America's safety has been put at risk. 

Your handle is quite appropriate.

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18 minutes ago, Boobie said:

Nothing new here, Bill Clinton decimated our intelligence capabilities which resulted in 9/11.  Obama decimated it too  resulting in  Benghazi.  Intelligence networks take years to build, President Trump is impatient when America's safety has been put at risk. 

Your handle is quite appropriate.

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18 minutes ago, Boobie said:

Nothing new here, Bill Clinton decimated our intelligence capabilities which resulted in 9/11.  Obama decimated it too  resulting in  Benghazi.  Intelligence networks take years to build, President Trump is impatient when America's safety has been put at risk. 

Your handle is quite appropriate.

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1 hour ago, hst2 said:

An opinion with no rebuttal.

Game, set, match.

LOL, no need for a rebuttal.... it's an opinion piece.

Ok.... here you go.

I disagree with his opinion.

Duh.

Is that the problem here? You guys read an opinion piece and agree with it so it's true?

 

Game,Set,Match.

Edited by mcorioles

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26 minutes ago, mcorioles said:

LOL, no need for a rebuttal.... it's an opinion piece.

Ok.... here you go.

I disagree with his opinion.

Duh.

Is that the problem here? You guys read an opinion piece and agree with it so it's true?

 

Game,Set,Match.

The opinion is based on facts. You merely contradict it. That is based on nothing.

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7 hours ago, Duke of Earl said:

Are  these  the same intelligence agencies that said WMB's in Iran were a "slam dunk" and   caused the deaths of 4400+ Americans? 

Actually, there was substantial disagreements within the intelligence community about Iraq and WMD, Cheney, Wolfowitz, and Bush downplayed those disagreements to sell the war to American people. Thank you for asking.

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3 hours ago, JoyinMudville said:

Actually, there was substantial disagreements within the intelligence community about Iraq and WMD, Cheney, Wolfowitz, and Bush downplayed those disagreements to sell the war to American people. Thank you for asking.

And really, Trump wants the kind of intelligence community that Cheney wanted: one that supports the political needs of the president.

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5 hours ago, Boobie said:

Nothing new here, Bill Clinton decimated our intelligence capabilities which resulted in 9/11.  Obama decimated it too  resulting in  Benghazi.  Intelligence networks take years to build, President Trump is impatient when America's safety has been put at risk. 

resorting to a lie to cover up for trump is another sign of the trumpanzee tribe.....

the truth about 9/11 is Bush ignored what he was told when he came in to office...

the IC grew under Obama....

got any facts?

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50 minutes ago, TheBaldGuy said:

Where's the one where Obama sided with an adversarial foreign leader and called members of our intelligence community political hacks?

"America has not been perfect"?

That's the best you guys can come up with?

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7 hours ago, TheBaldGuy said:

Obama admits that we, as a people and as a nation, have made mistakes. In an effort to repair relationships.

Trump simply attacks fellow Americans and institutions because, well, that's about all he does.

There is quite difference there.

 

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9 hours ago, TheBaldGuy said:

Even taken out of context, you have to try really hard to find offense in what Obama said in any of those examples

It's not even in the same universe as Trump kissing up to Vladimir Putin and Saudi Arabia's young dictator, (MBS)

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Obama acknowledges the truth any fool can see, that America is an imperialist monster, and the response is to freak out and blame him. Like it’s his fault we’ve gone around the world butchering people left and right for decades. Are we just not supposed to acknowledge that?

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3 minutes ago, Jimmy Jazz said:

Obama acknowledges the truth any fool can see, that America is an imperialist monster, and the response is to freak out and blame him. Like it’s his fault we’ve gone around the world butchering people left and right for decades. Are we just not supposed to acknowledge that?

Yes.  American exceptionalism demands that you completely ignore history and current events and view this country's actions as 100% justified.  Otherwise you hate America as the RWNJs regularly said and still say about Obama.

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59 minutes ago, ivanbalt said:

Yes.  American exceptionalism demands that you completely ignore history and current events and view this country's actions as 100% justified.  Otherwise you hate America as the RWNJs regularly said and still say about Obama.

And be sure to ignore Trump claiming the US is no better than Russia or suggesting our Intelligence agencies suck. 

What is extreme partisanship without the extreme hypocrisy?

 

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Trump's nowhere near as dumb as you think. The collusion conspiracy nuts would make hay if he said oh, yeah, the Ruskies interfered with our election big time all right.

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6 minutes ago, Saticon3 said:

Trump's nowhere near as dumb as you think. The collusion conspiracy nuts would make hay if he said oh, yeah, the Ruskies interfered with our election big time all right.

Its not that he's smart, he just lacks character.

But he worked with Russia plenty and right in front of our faces.

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23 minutes ago, Saticon3 said:

Trump's nowhere near as dumb as you think. The collusion conspiracy nuts would make hay if he said oh, yeah, the Ruskies interfered with our election big time all right.

Trump isn’t as smart as he thinks he is

I don’t think he’s dumb but he’s clearly in over his head. 

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y'all much maligned the intelligence agencies (rightfully so) back in the non-existent WMD days, but now you think they're gospel?

Fact is Obama has corrupted them into mere political tools at this point, spying on us as much if not more than on foreign adversaries. 

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On 11/12/2017 at 0:41 AM, JoyinMudville said:

You're delusional.

Look at these childish ramblings and explain how they are presidential.

 

You have to be delusional to be a Trumpanzee.  The ONLY way to support trump is to completely suspend belief in anything factual.

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On 11/12/2017 at 5:52 AM, Duke of Earl said:

Are  these  the same intelligence agencies that said WMB's in Iran were a "slam dunk" and   caused the deaths of 4400+ Americans? 

Oh, and for the record, much of that intelligence didn't say that.  The Bush admin flat out LIED about what the intelligence said.

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On 11/12/2017 at 7:32 AM, soulflower said:

I understand the concept of Nuance. Most on the Right and some on the Left seem to overlook Nuance or only understand it when it benefits their side

There is no nuance in Trump’s statements about Vladimir Putin. He clearly admires the guy and refuses to criticize him. 

Seems to me that Putin is pretty much the ONLY person trump has yet so say an unkind word about.

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On 11/12/2017 at 11:54 AM, Boobie said:

Nothing new here, Bill Clinton decimated our intelligence capabilities which resulted in 9/11.  Obama decimated it too  resulting in  Benghazi.  Intelligence networks take years to build, President Trump is impatient when America's safety has been put at risk. 

BWaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahahahahahahahahahahahaha!

As I stated, you have to completely ignore anything and everything factual to be a trump supporter.  This ridiculous Trumpanzee post is proof positive of that

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