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Video shows apparently incapacitated, half-naked woman put out in cold by Baltimore hospital

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30 minutes ago, naive said:

How do her parents feel? Worried sick, you think?

From the Ch 11 link it seems the mother didn't know she was there.

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15 minutes ago, Sprightly said:

It is the hospital's obligation to provide compassionate care. There are organizations that can be contacted. There are facilities for psychosocial patients. Hospital ER personnel are well aware of this.

The hospital failed this woman on all levels.

Based on the statement the hospital released, they disagree that they failed on all levels. They seem to feel that they provided the appropriate care for the woman’s condition at the time. 

We don’t know the hospital/patient relationship. 

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4 minutes ago, stevez51 said:

From the Ch 11 link it seems the mother didn't know she was there.

Looking at the video and the condition that this 22 year old is in, that’s really sad.

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Just now, naive said:

Looking at the video and the condition that this 22 year old is in, that’s really sad.

Yeah that the TV people had to contact the mother to ask. Sounds like a person who should not be left alone.

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10 hours ago, naive said:

"Patient dumping". Sadly, it still happens.

What ever happened to "turfing" a pt.??? Good lord. This is out enlightened society.

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23 minutes ago, naive said:

Based on the statement the hospital released, they disagree that they failed on all levels. They seem to feel that they provided the appropriate care for the woman’s condition at the time. 

We don’t know the hospital/patient relationship. 

That is not what Dr. Suntha said. Listen again.

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26 minutes ago, Sprightly said:

That is not what Dr. Suntha said. Listen again.

From the wbal link.

"We believe firmly that we provided appropriate medical care that came to us in need, but where we absolutely failed -- and where we own that failure -- is showing basic humanity and compassion as a patient was being discharged after receiving that care," Suntha said.

They believe firmly that they provided appropriate medial care.

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Hospital CEO apologizes to discharged patient: 'We take full responsibility for that failure'

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No no need to shout.

 

“We believe firmly that we provided appropriate medical care”

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8 minutes ago, naive said:

No no need to shout.

 

“We believe firmly that we provided appropriate medical care”

Maybe one day you will explain why you are more defensive of UMMS than is the CEO. The treatment of this woman is a direct contradiction to everything UMMS claims to stand for. And for these employees violating standing policies regarding the discharge of behavioral health and/or homeless individuals. And, yes, I am very familiar with UMMS and its leaders. 

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1 minute ago, Sprightly said:

Maybe one day you will explain why you are more defensive of UMMS than is the CEO. The treatment of this woman is a direct contradiction to everything UMMS claims to stand for. And, yes, I am very familiar with UMMS and its leaders. 

I’m not. Just saying, according to their public statement, that they did not fail this patient on all levels. If they simply turned her away, then yes, they failed on all levels.

As I said earlier, we don’t know the patient/hospital relationship. She may, or may not be, a frequent visitor.  Could be a lot more to this story that we will never know.

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Just now, naive said:

I’m not. Just saying, according to their public statement, that they did not fail this patient on all levels. If they simply turned her away, then yes, they failed on all levels.

As I said earlier, we don’t know the patient/hospital relationship. She may, or may not be, a frequent visitor.  Could be a lot more to this story that we will never know.

It doesn't matter if she is a frequent visitor! I see the same patients day after day!! We don't ESCORT A NEARLY NAKED patient out of our facility into 30-degree weather before or aftercare -- ever! We know where to call and who to call when the need arises - which, unfortunately, is often.

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29 minutes ago, Sprightly said:

It doesn't matter if she is a frequent visitor! I see the same patients day after day!! We don't ESCORT A NEARLY NAKED patient out of our facility into 30-degree weather before or aftercare -- ever! We know where to call and who to call when the need arises - which, unfortunately, is often.

Yeah they messed up. A review of their discharge procedures is clearly needed. I don’t think this is this first time they’ve done this to a patient, I think it’s the first time they got caught. 

The hospital is not the only thing that has failed this young lady. 

 

 

 

 

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This is really awful. Why the heck didn't they have her get dressed.:mad::(:huh:

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26 minutes ago, caliber45 said:

This is really awful. Why the heck didn't they have her get dressed.:mad::(:huh:

She was discharged, but maybe didn't want to leave.

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The hospital’s investigation should take all of 5 minutes: find out who signed the last document in the discharge papers, and ask them why they improperly put her out in the cold.   The delay in the investigation proves that the failure is one of protocol - people did what they were tasked with doing.  

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11 hours ago, Balmerboh said:

The hospital’s investigation should take all of 5 minutes: find out who signed the last document in the discharge papers, and ask them why they improperly put her out in the cold.   The delay in the investigation proves that the failure is one of protocol - people did what they were tasked with doing.  

So what if once discharged she refused to leave.?? It was wrong for the security to this on a cold night, but would it be a problem if it was 70 degrees.??

Now if they called the police and once they came, what do they do if the woman screams she wants to go to the hospital. They take her back.

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On 1/12/2018 at 10:38 AM, stevez51 said:

She was discharged, but maybe didn't want to leave.

She was not of sound mind.  She was not a stable genius 

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On 1/12/2018 at 10:12 AM, caliber45 said:

This is really awful. Why the heck didn't they have her get dressed.:mad::(:huh:

She may not have come in dressed. Her clothes may be soiled. She may have refused...a witness in the ER said she was sitting on the floor and refused to get up. 

 

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1 hour ago, PinkFlamingo said:

She may not have come in dressed. Her clothes may be soiled. She may have refused...a witness in the ER said she was sitting on the floor and refused to get up. 

 

She does not appear to be capable of making a rational decision 

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Just now, Dinglehopper said:

She does not appear to be capable of making a rational decision 

Yep

The hopital was between a rock and a hard place. 

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1 hour ago, PinkFlamingo said:

Yep

The hopital was between a rock and a hard place. 

Not really.  They had a choice between doing their job or not.

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17 hours ago, PinkFlamingo said:

She may not have come in dressed. Her clothes may be soiled. She may have refused...a witness in the ER said she was sitting on the floor and refused to get up. 

 

The hospital has a supply of clothing for such circumstances.

Her clothing was in the bags that the guards placed on the ground when they escorted her out.

ER employees are trained to recognize a mentally incapacitated individual and how to proceed. Clearly, this woman fit the definition.

The hospital failed her.

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