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Not What I Wanted to Hear About Detective Suiter

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7 minutes ago, paulsebastian said:

Sounds like you don't have a clue:lol:

He has a clue, he just thinks his boys can do no wrong despite the fact that they're on trial right now for wrong doing. 

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19 minutes ago, bmore_ken said:

He has a clue, he just thinks his boys can do no wrong despite the fact that they're on trial right now for wrong doing. 

That's not true at all.....

I call out the bad cops and if go back to the original post on when the gun task force crimes broke I actually read the warrants and reported out on how the feds got involved on OT fraud - because the time sheets were processed across state lines .....

Unlike many on here however, i do believe the majority of cops are good and not vice versa .....

Anyway, so now you concede his partner knows other cops killed him .....

That's my point, I just don't believe conspiricies of silence hold up once you get too many people involved .....

Throw in a quarter mil reward and people talk even faster .....

 

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On 2/11/2018 at 1:44 PM, bmore_ken said:

I don't know that his partner is involved, but I'll bet my house if he's not involved he knows exactly what happened. 

Which one....you have several if I recall correctly. City county and now In Del. ?:lol:

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4 minutes ago, Guido2 said:

Which one....you have several if I recall correctly. City county and now In Del. ?:lol:

White Marsh and Georgetown De. and I'd bet both of them. Are you one of these cop defenders with your head in the sand?

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4 hours ago, bmore_ken said:

White Marsh and Georgetown De. and I'd bet both of them. Are you one of these cop defenders with your head in the sand?

Well ken....maybe if you pulled you head out you would already know the answer to that question. Or set down those blinders. 

But since you are sssosooooooooo slllloooowwwwwww I will repeat.

I don't defend bad cops....never did....that is something in  your head. 

Now do I believe in 'innocent till proven guilty' ...yup ....put a check mark in that box for me.

 

 

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On 2/13/2018 at 6:04 PM, Guido2 said:

Well ken....maybe if you pulled you head out you would already know the answer to that question. Or set down those blinders. 

But since you are sssosooooooooo slllloooowwwwwww I will repeat.

I don't defend bad cops....never did....that is something in  your head. 

Now do I believe in 'innocent till proven guilty' ...yup ....put a check mark in that box for me.

 

 

Now the city wants outsides to tell us what we already think...

http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/maryland/crime/bs-md-ci-outside-suiter-review-20180215-story.html

Acting Baltimore Police Commissioner Darryl De Sousa has decided to bring in an outside consultant to review last year’s unsolved killing of Det. Sean Suiter, police officials confirmed Thursday

 

Police initially said he was killed in a brief but violent struggle with an unknown assailant but subsequently acknowledged that detectives were looking into competing theories as well.

One of those theories is that Suiter committed suicide.

De Sousa mentioned there being two conflicting theories around the detective’s death, and said he hopes the independent review of the case “tells us what happened” to the detective.

“I hope it dispels one or the other” and “just tells us the truth,” he said.

“A lot of people don’t like to hear the truth, but whatever the truth is, I think we need, and we have a responsibility, to share that to the community,” De Sousa said.

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52 minutes ago, johnpolitics said:

Now the city wants outsides to tell us what we already think...

http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/maryland/crime/bs-md-ci-outside-suiter-review-20180215-story.html

Acting Baltimore Police Commissioner Darryl De Sousa has decided to bring in an outside consultant to review last year’s unsolved killing of Det. Sean Suiter, police officials confirmed Thursday

 

Police initially said he was killed in a brief but violent struggle with an unknown assailant but subsequently acknowledged that detectives were looking into competing theories as well.

One of those theories is that Suiter committed suicide.

De Sousa mentioned there being two conflicting theories around the detective’s death, and said he hopes the independent review of the case “tells us what happened” to the detective.

“I hope it dispels one or the other” and “just tells us the truth,” he said.

“A lot of people don’t like to hear the truth, but whatever the truth is, I think we need, and we have a responsibility, to share that to the community,” De Sousa said.

Being cynical....well the plot thickens.

Classic who's on first......ok Sutton is killed....by who...dunno....Davis is on it...any progress.....dunno....why is it taking so long...ut oh....it was another cop....ut oh...OK here is what we do ..Davis you are fired by me Pugh...Ok....now you are no longer here to blame directly but I can blame you ....meanwhile....I get  new Commis....he doesn't know anything....so not blamable....

Pugh; now so.....we can go ahead a release the same information we have had for months....but don't want the blow back...but ...now.....Pugh: who will follow this paper trail 

Queue  cackling witch like hysterical laughter. 

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It is looking more like the cops are covering up something!

http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/maryland/crime/bs-md-ci-suiter-surveillance-claim-20180315-story.html

It is unclear what, if anything, the seized cameras captured on the day of Suiter’s shooting — which shocked the city and led to the street, and other parts of Harlem Park, being cordoned off for a week.

Police have acknowledged having some surveillance footage from the area, but Smith would not say whether that footage was from Akpala’s cameras — two of which are visible, facing the street, on the facade of the corner building where the store is located.

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2 hours ago, johnpolitics said:

It is looking more like the cops are covering up something!

http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/maryland/crime/bs-md-ci-suiter-surveillance-claim-20180315-story.html

It is unclear what, if anything, the seized cameras captured on the day of Suiter’s shooting — which shocked the city and led to the street, and other parts of Harlem Park, being cordoned off for a week.

Police have acknowledged having some surveillance footage from the area, but Smith would not say whether that footage was from Akpala’s cameras — two of which are visible, facing the street, on the facade of the corner building where the store is located.

Been asking for this since day 1, and we can all guess why they aren't releasing it.

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1 hour ago, Calamari said:

Been asking for this since day 1, and we can all guess why they aren't releasing it.

I would imagine the new Commiss.. is having awwwww poop moment.

Yup I know it wasn't on his watch....bbuuuuuuttttttttt

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I thought it was suicide from the start and that talk of a hit by other police or someone else was ridiculous.  But it's hard to try and explain away the seized cameras being taken and then returned and found to be broken when they were working before they were seized. Most of what is recorded goes straight to a hard drive of some kind.  Now, I'm even wondering if the cameras and equipment were seized legally.  Closing off sections of the city for a week needs a better explanation too, as does the lack of response on the ACLU's request for body cam and other footage to be released three months ago.   

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http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/maryland/crime/bs-md-ci-suiter-new-details-20180317-story.html

Some say the evidence — including the location of the gun, the pacing as though preparing himself — suggests Suiter could have committed suicide staged to look like a murder.

Sources say the bullet that ultimately killed Suiter entered behind his right ear and traveled forward, exiting from his left temple. The path of the bullet is not typical of a suicide, some note.

In this view, dirt found on Suiter’s clothing, an unintelligible transmission over his radio, and the two other shots from his gun all support the theory that he struggled with an assailant who has eluded detection. Police have said Suiter was killed with his own gun, though the shooting could have happened during such a struggle.

 

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51 minutes ago, johnpolitics said:

http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/maryland/crime/bs-md-ci-suiter-new-details-20180317-story.html

Some say the evidence — including the location of the gun, the pacing as though preparing himself — suggests Suiter could have committed suicide staged to look like a murder.

Sources say the bullet that ultimately killed Suiter entered behind his right ear and traveled forward, exiting from his left temple. The path of the bullet is not typical of a suicide, some note.

In this view, dirt found on Suiter’s clothing, an unintelligible transmission over his radio, and the two other shots from his gun all support the theory that he struggled with an assailant who has eluded detection. Police have said Suiter was killed with his own gun, though the shooting could have happened during such a struggle.

 

So many different opinions on what happened. It may never be solved. 

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The report also said that there is video footage that shows Suiter pacing back and forth right before he was shot.

My opinion is that it supports suicide and an attempt to make it look like a struggle took place for pension purposes and escape being dragged into the whole scandal involving the GTTF that was unraveling at the time.    

I'd be surprised if the police admit that's what happened and if it doesn't remain a cold case.  A close range shooting as described would make perfect sense if someone wanted to make a suicide not look like a typical suicide. 

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22 minutes ago, Ode2Joy said:

The report also said that there is video footage that shows Suiter pacing back and forth right before he was shot.

My opinion is that it supports suicide and an attempt to make it look like a struggle took place for pension purposes and escape being dragged into the whole scandal involving the GTTF that was unraveling at the time.    

I'd be surprised if the police admit that's what happened and if it doesn't remain a cold case.  A close range shooting as described would make perfect sense if someone wanted to make a suicide not look like a typical suicide. 

IMO this case will be forever cold so his family gets the pension. 

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3 hours ago, Ode2Joy said:

The report also said that there is video footage that shows Suiter pacing back and forth right before he was shot.

My opinion is that it supports suicide and an attempt to make it look like a struggle took place for pension purposes and escape being dragged into the whole scandal involving the GTTF that was unraveling at the time.    

I'd be surprised if the police admit that's what happened and if it doesn't remain a cold case.  A close range shooting as described would make perfect sense if someone wanted to make a suicide not look like a typical suicide. 

Been my position all along .....

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5 hours ago, Ode2Joy said:

The report also said that there is video footage that shows Suiter pacing back and forth right before he was shot.

My opinion is that it supports suicide and an attempt to make it look like a struggle took place for pension purposes and escape being dragged into the whole scandal involving the GTTF that was unraveling at the time.    

I'd be surprised if the police admit that's what happened and if it doesn't remain a cold case.  A close range shooting as described would make perfect sense if someone wanted to make a suicide not look like a typical suicide. 

Here's the hole in your theory. Suiter was a crooked cop and was about to testify about his crookedness. There's a possibility he wouldn't have even gotten a pension after he was fired for his criminality. 

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1 hour ago, bmore_ken said:

Here's the hole in your theory. Suiter was a crooked cop and was about to testify about his crookedness. There's a possibility he wouldn't have even gotten a pension after he was fired for his criminality. 

Huh....

That's not a hole in the theory .....

That's the biggest reason for that theory .....

That's why I also hate to talk about that theory because there is no evidence that he was in legal jeopardy.....

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1 hour ago, bmore_ken said:

Here's the hole in your theory. Suiter was a crooked cop and was about to testify about his crookedness. There's a possibility he wouldn't have even gotten a pension after he was fired for his criminality. 

thought I’d read, at some point in the last couple months, that one of the GTTF said the drugs were planted in the vehicle (that they were chasing that hit and killed the 87yr old man) but that Suiter was set up to find them and he had nothing to do with it. All he was supposed to testify about was that he found them in the vehicle. 

Yes, I know...why believe any of the GTTF, but why would they lie about that? It only makes them look worse. 

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24 minutes ago, Eastside Terp said:

Huh....

That's not a hole in the theory .....

That's the biggest reason for that theory .....

That's why I also hate to talk about that theory because there is no evidence that he was in legal jeopardy.....

I think you're right. Desperate people do desperate things.   

Today's story:

http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/maryland/crime/bs-md-ci-suiter-new-details-20180317-story.html#nt=oft12aH-1gp2

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Before the shooting, sources say, Suiter took a call from his lawyer about meeting that evening to go over his appearance before the federal grand jury the next day. His lawyer declined to comment for this article, citing attorney-client privilege.

…The incident Suiter was to testify about took place in 2010, when Suiter and then-Detectives Wayne Jenkins and Ryan Guinn surrounded Umar Burley, a man they said was a drug suspect. Burley fled by car and crashed into another vehicle, killing the 87-year-old father of another police officer. Afterward, Suiter recovered drugs from Burley’s vehicle, and Burley was sentenced to prison for manslaughter and federal drug charges.

…But Burley’s account of the incident raised questions. He contends that the officers, including Suiter, were wearing masks and rammed into his vehicle, and he fled because he believed he was being robbed. Then, during the Gun Trace Task Force trial, a convicted officer, Det. Maurice Ward, testified that he had stolen from people along with Suiter and other members of their drug squad.

Cooperating defendants say Jenkins carried around masks and tools to commit crimes.

 

I don't think that cops typically ride around wearing masks.  Even if Suiter wasn't wearing one himself, it seems like he would have known that the others in the car with him were and that it's not normal procedure to crash into another vehicle. 

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12 hours ago, Ode2Joy said:

I think you're right. Desperate people do desperate things.   

Today's story:

http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/maryland/crime/bs-md-ci-suiter-new-details-20180317-story.html#nt=oft12aH-1gp2

I don't think that cops typically ride around wearing masks.  Even if Suiter wasn't wearing one himself, it seems like he would have known that the others in the car with him were and that it's not normal procedure to crash into another vehicle. 

Once the client dies attorney client privilege can go away I think. The attorney could clear him and is not taking the opportunity to do so.  IMO he killed himself to keep the pension for his family.  I don't think the cops will ever try to solve the case because they know the answer. It is all about the Blue Wall of silence and protecting each other. Plus $200,000 reward and no one is snitching. 

AND FINALLY... 

http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/maryland/crime/bs-md-ci-suiter-surveillance-claim-20180315-story.html

It is unclear what, if anything, the seized cameras captured on the day of Suiter’s shooting — which shocked the city and led to the street, and other parts of Harlem Park, being cordoned off for a week.

Police have acknowledged having some surveillance footage from the area, but Smith would not say whether that footage was from Akpala’s cameras — two of which are visible, facing the street, on the facade of the corner building where the store is located.

Remember Suiter more than anyone else know what HE knew.  Just as Trump knows more than anyone else about Stormy Daniels, Russia etc. Maybe he didn't see an out.  

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1 hour ago, johnpolitics said:

 Maybe he didn't see an out.  

That's my guess.  I find it beyond belief that they accidently damaged Akpala’s cameras too.  If anything, you'd think they would treat and handle them as gently as possible, knowing that they might show evidence one way or another. 

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On 2/11/2018 at 2:10 PM, Eastside Terp said:

That's not true at all.....

I call out the bad cops and if go back to the original post on when the gun task force crimes broke I actually read the warrants and reported out on how the feds got involved on OT fraud - because the time sheets were processed across state lines .....

Unlike many on here however, i do believe the majority of cops are good and not vice versa .....

Anyway, so now you concede his partner knows other cops killed him .....

That's my point, I just don't believe conspiricies of silence hold up once you get too many people involved .....

Throw in a quarter mil reward and people talk even faster .....

 

Um, not to be a sour puss but I  wouldn't believe his "partner" if you held me over a swamp of alligators with leeches and flesh eating bacteria ..... I'm  just not that trusting nor naive.Plus his partner was a serious POS, even as an Officer.

I used to work there and well, absolute complete whole hearted BS!!!!! Be quiet.

Edited by LadyHollman

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One thing that is very puzzling to me...not the only thing..there are many.

But, by the description of the enter and exits of the bullet. In behind the right ear and out the left temple. Well, to my way of thinking if you are struggleing with someone over control/possession of a gun....wouldn't you...more than likely be facing the assailant? A bullet through the left temple and exiting behind the right ear would make more sense.

I will admit...in a life and death struggle....anything is possible. But there are way to may 'coincidences' that don't add up. 

Gibbs' Rule #39: There is no such thing as a coincidence.

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Posted (edited)

On 3/23/2018 at 11:46 AM, johnpolitics said:

  IMO he killed himself to keep the pension for his family.  

Because I’m not knowledgeable on such matters, is that what happens if it’s eventually ruled a suicide?

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