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16 minutes ago, Evil Yoda said:

Do you anticipate team friendly deals for quarterbacks becoming the norm? The 49ers also got Kaepernick to sign such a deal years ago. I'm talking about for quarterbacks in general; the elites are always going to demand, and get, whatever they want.

I think it reflects the reality of the acute need for quarterbacks overall, and as a result, even those with very short resumes such as Garoppolo, are going to get paid.

On the other hand, the 49ers likely wanted to be risk-averse with Garoppolo due to the small sample size. When they signed Kaepernick to a massive extension, they avoided the long-term $20 million annual guarantees while adding team-friendly roster bonuses and guarantees that didn't vest until April. Similar deals were struck with the likes of Mike Glennon with the Bears, Brock Osweiller with the Texans, and Ryan Fitzpatrick and then Tyrod Taylor with the Bills. All were quarterbacks who signed huge contracts despite limited track records, but those deals allowed their teams to get out from under them in a relatively short period of time. What the Niners did was essentially franchise Garoppolo for two years.

The deals will serve as bellwethers, however, when elites such as Drew Brees (a free agent this year), Aaron Rodgers, and Matt Ryan approach the end of their current contracts. As you alluded, these types of quarterbacks will always get theirs, and contracts such as the ones Garoppolo just signed will drive the cost that much higher.

 

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That loser is done, Gertrude. He has been suggested for virtually every team and no one is interested. 

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He definitely got blackballed.

He wasn't signed for PR reasons.

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1 hour ago, Pickle20 said:

He definitely got blackballed.

He wasn't signed for PR reasons.

It came down to dollars and cents.  The PR, and by extension financial, hit would make it impossible to justify a move. There are plenty of other mediocre QBs out there.  

 

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24 minutes ago, Manny said:

It came down to dollars and cents.  The PR, and by extension financial, hit would make it impossible to justify a move. There are plenty of other mediocre QBs out there.  

 

I agree with you about money.

Kaep isn't mediocre though and never was.

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8 minutes ago, Pickle20 said:

I agree with you about money.

Kaep isn't mediocre though and never was.

He was (is) a read-option quarterback, however, and they typically do not have long shelf lives.

Every piece I've seen regarding Kaepernick and why he should still be employed in the NFL tells basically the same story. He replaced Alex Smith in 2012, had a very acceptable 98 passer rating, and got the Niners within a few yards of winning the Super Bowl. He then followed that up with another solid season in 2013.

What those stories don't tell, however, is that Kaepernick still had a long way to go as a passer. He was typical of a lot of quarterbacks who run the spread offenses in college. They're coached to take off running if their first read isn't there, and since they're presumbably the best athlete on the field, that usually suffices. Trouble is, in the NFL, you can't build all of the complexity into the running game without also doing so with the passing game. Once defenses adapted to stopping the run-option, Kaepernick's fortunes shifted because he wasn't polished enough as a passer to beat defenses that way.

In Kaepernick's first two seasons as a full-time starter, the 49ers had the league's 30th-ranked offense both years. That type of offensive feebleness can only work for so long.

Kaepernick may also have been a victim of both is and the team's early success. As long as he was playing for a contender, there was no reason to try and make him more of a pocket passer. But as the Niners' fortunes faded, so did Kaepernick's. Whatever problems he could cause for defenses as a runner, his shortcomings as a passer made it almost impossible for the Niners to beat anyone through the air. As those long runs which had become Kaepernick's trademark became fewer and further between, teams began relying on it less. As a result, demand for quarterbacks who operated that way also began to wane. The read-option isn't dead; teams still use it, but unlike the Niners, they deploy it with the idea of giving the defense something else to have to consider, and not as their primary means of moving the ball. 

Look, I get it that stats can get cherry-picked in order to support any side of an argument, but I think there are enough parallels here to illustrate why the Kaepernick-type of quarterback is rapidly going extinct. RGIII is now a former NFL quarterback, and Tim Tebow led the Broncos to a playoff victory in 2012, then never started another NFL game. 

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38 minutes ago, Pickle20 said:

I agree with you about money.

Kaep isn't mediocre though and never was.

His play indicate otherwise. He is comparable to Jay Cutler and Josh McCown. Mediocre defines that class of QB.

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6 hours ago, Pickle20 said:

He definitely got blackballed.

He wasn't signed for PR reasons.

So......

If owners don't want to pay him millions to be the face of their franchise that's their choice .....

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Good way to get a job is to sue your potential employer.  That's always worked out well for people.  Fact is that nobody wanted the bad PR in exchange for a mediocre QB with a slow wind up.  Kaepernick may have been better than some of the QB's who were starters in the league, but they didn't come with the prospect of part of the fan base revolting against the team.  Now he has filed a collusion lawsuit against the league.  Good luck with that.  Win or lose, his days as an NFL QB are over.  Any owner who was half reluctantly reconsidering the possibility of bringing him in isn't likely to now.  You usually don't hire the guy who's just taken you to court.  

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