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Trump is single handily destroying the republican Party

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2 minutes ago, SemiAuto said:

The problem with Washington is money.  The billions spent on getting elected is obscene.  That said, it doesn't hold a candle to the nearly $4 trillion per year and $21 trillion in debt.  This sort of centralization of wealth, unsurprisingly, turns out badly.

You are too literal minded for someone skeptical of zero sum gain. It happens in an oligarchy and the mob: Once you take the money the favors begin.  The favors in Washington are the best deal in the country for the money "donated." The debt is evidence of that. Business wants money for business. Everything else can go to hell. So out with the rules and regulation, the worker safety victories and all the rest. Why? Because "capital reserve" these days means cheap wages  and Wall Street hates raises. Capital reserve also means business likes high unemployment because they don't like paying interest.  So the government puts everyone on the dole. See how it works? 

Centralization of wealth is the inevitable result of the loosening of the rules of the game. Why? Because they can.

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34 minutes ago, zenwalk said:

You are too literal minded for someone skeptical of zero sum gain. It happens in an oligarchy and the mob: Once you take the money the favors begin.  The favors in Washington are the best deal in the country for the money "donated." The debt is evidence of that. Business wants money for business. Everything else can go to hell. So out with the rules and regulation, the worker safety victories and all the rest. Why? Because "capital reserve" these days means cheap wages  and Wall Street hates raises. Capital reserve also means business likes high unemployment because they don't like paying interest.  So the government puts everyone on the dole. See how it works? 

Centralization of wealth is the inevitable result of the loosening of the rules of the game. Why? Because they can.

That is amusing considering Trump is tightening the rules (immigration, tariffs) and look who is losing.  When they 'reformed' the banks look who got bigger (the fat cats) and who got shafted (community banks).   It wasn't the loosening of the rules that built the MIC.  It was power.

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1 hour ago, SemiAuto said:

That is amusing considering Trump is tightening the rules (immigration, tariffs) and look who is losing.  When they 'reformed' the banks look who got bigger (the fat cats) and who got shafted (community banks).   It wasn't the loosening of the rules that built the MIC.  It was power.

Money is power once the rules and regs are gone. We agree. We live in a libertarian paradise. 

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20 minutes ago, zenwalk said:

Money is power once the rules and regs are gone. We agree. We live in a libertarian paradise. 

No, we don't agree.   This is what the libertarians warned you about.  

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Trump is a cancer. But the really appalling thing is how the GOP leadership has simply bent over. They will regret it.

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1 hour ago, SemiAuto said:

No, we don't agree.   This is what the libertarians warned you about.  

K.  Your faith in the honesty of greedy men is a little misplaced. Sort of like the way communism had faith in human behavior to do the right thing. Humans are evil animals left unregulated. This explains the rivers of blood throughout history.  The framers of our constitution understood human behavior which is why they put so many checks on behavior. 

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5 hours ago, SemiAuto said:

That is amusing considering Trump is tightening the rules (immigration, tariffs) and look who is losing.  When they 'reformed' the banks look who got bigger (the fat cats) and who got shafted (community banks).   It wasn't the loosening of the rules that built the MIC.  It was power.

He's not tightening the rules that hit the right people. Tariffs may and that will be the end of that.

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19 hours ago, SemiAuto said:

The problem with Washington is money.  The billions spent on getting elected is obscene.  That said, it doesn't hold a candle to the nearly $4 trillion per year and $21 trillion in debt.  This sort of centralization of wealth, unsurprisingly, turns out badly.

Libertarian Party Platform

"We call for an end to any tax-financed subsidies to candidates or parties and the repeal of all laws which restrict voluntary financing of election campaigns."

Perhaps you should consider throwing in with the Communist Party. They have a rigid ideology, like the Libertarians, that you crave, but would have elections, I imagine, financed by the state.

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Yea, he's trying to turn it into the Democrat party ....

Trade tariffs, huge spending bills......

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15 hours ago, zenwalk said:

K.  Your faith in the honesty of greedy men is a little misplaced. Sort of like the way communism had faith in human behavior to do the right thing. Humans are evil animals left unregulated. This explains the rivers of blood throughout history.  The framers of our constitution understood human behavior which is why they put so many checks on behavior. 

Agree completely.   What we are seeing right now is the failure of one of those branches (Congress) to adequately provide the checks on an ever increasingly corrupt other branch (the executive branch).  Unfortunately, this complaint lands flat onto the Republican Party in Congress, who has failed to do what is mandated in the Constitution.   As such, the Republican Party, as a whole, is becoming as corrupt as the President, or is being perceived as that.  It is funny, in years past (and I'm old enough to speak from experience), the Republican Party was the party of "truth" and "honor".  This was the Reagan mantra; now the Democrats seem to have the moral high ground.

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6 hours ago, GRF said:

Agree completely.   What we are seeing right now is the failure of one of those branches (Congress) to adequately provide the checks on an ever increasingly corrupt other branch (the executive branch).  Unfortunately, this complaint lands flat onto the Republican Party in Congress, who has failed to do what is mandated in the Constitution.   As such, the Republican Party, as a whole, is becoming as corrupt as the President, or is being perceived as that.  It is funny, in years past (and I'm old enough to speak from experience), the Republican Party was the party of "truth" and "honor".  This was the Reagan mantra; now the Democrats seem to have the moral high ground.

They have slso called into the question the legitimacy of the Supreme Court by stealing a seat. Is just a mouthpiece now, for the GOP?

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6 hours ago, GRF said:

Agree completely.   What we are seeing right now is the failure of one of those branches (Congress) to adequately provide the checks on an ever increasingly corrupt other branch (the executive branch).  Unfortunately, this complaint lands flat onto the Republican Party in Congress, who has failed to do what is mandated in the Constitution.   As such, the Republican Party, as a whole, is becoming as corrupt as the President, or is being perceived as that.  It is funny, in years past (and I'm old enough to speak from experience), the Republican Party was the party of "truth" and "honor".  This was the Reagan mantra; now the Democrats seem to have the moral high ground.

It's a daylight robbery using Trump as the diversion. All successful pickpockets use a diversion.

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1 hour ago, hst2 said:

They have slso called into the question the legitimacy of the Supreme Court by stealing a seat. Is just a mouthpiece now, for the GOP?

"...stealing a seat."  LOLZ. 

Elections have consequences. 

One of them is laughing at the hyperbole of the losing side when the liberals make excuses for losing and the winner gets to nominate judges to the SCOTUS. 

Give us one and, even better, TWO more seats, and they can impeach President Trump to their little liberal hearts' desire.  :D 

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2 hours ago, Ode2Joy said:

"...stealing a seat."  LOLZ. 

Elections have consequences. 

One of them is laughing at the hyperbole of the losing side when the liberals make excuses for losing and the winner gets to nominate judges to the SCOTUS. 

Give us one and, even better, TWO more seats, and they can impeach President Trump to their little liberal hearts' desire.  :D 

Actually, the president nominates judges for the Supreme court, and no matter how much you may rationale it, the Republican Senate refused to consider the president's nominee. You can chuckle about it all you want, but It is an attack on our democratic principles and traditions.

It should be no surprise to anyone that the party that did this paved the way for the grotesque and corrupt Donald Trump. They were meant for each other.

Just the other day,Trey Gowdy, certainly no RHINO, put it well:

"... he felt being in Congress was largely a waste of time, as it was bogged down by "ineffectiveness."

And asked what he makes of the Republican party in 2018, he said "the goal is to win" — that's it.

"We've convinced ourselves that we have to because the country will go to Hades in a hand basket if my team doesn't win," Gowdy said."

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1 hour ago, hst2 said:

Actually, the president nominates judges for the Supreme court, and no matter how much you may rationale it, the Republican Senate refused to consider the president's nominee. You can chuckle about it all you want, but It is an attack on our democratic principles and traditions.

It should be no surprise to anyone that the party that did this paved the way for the grotesque and corrupt Donald Trump. They were meant for each other.

Just the other day,Trey Gowdy, certainly no RHINO, put it well:

"... he felt being in Congress was largely a waste of time, as it was bogged down by "ineffectiveness."

And asked what he makes of the Republican party in 2018, he said "the goal is to win" — that's it.

"We've convinced ourselves that we have to because the country will go to Hades in a hand basket if my team doesn't win," Gowdy said."

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Cool story, bro. 

It was a legal stratagem when Biden boasted about it and it was a legal stratagem when the Republicans were able to successively do what Biden wanted to do.  

Pretending that the SCOTUS isn't valid now is nothing more than some kind of verbal placebo butt salve for leftists and Democrats who are still pouting about losing the presidential election.   

Apply liberally, as needed.  :P 

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On 4/6/2018 at 5:05 AM, EgyptKang said:

blogger-butt

I posted this same post on another forum for using the term "blogger-butt" and was banned for doing so. I just hope it doesn't happen here too.

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On ‎4‎/‎6‎/‎2018 at 5:51 PM, ms maggie said:

Trump is a cancer. But the really appalling thing is how the GOP leadership has simply bent over. They will regret it.

Substitute November in the song.............

 

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