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The Terrible Cost of Obama's Failure in Syria

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Four years ago, it almost looked as if chemical attacks on Syrian civilians would stop. “We struck a deal where we got 100 percent of the chemical weapons out,” declared then-Secretary of State John Kerry on Meet the Press in 2014. Kerry was referring to Bashar al-Assad’s declared stockpiles of chemical weapons which, under a 2013 deal struck by the Obama administration following a sarin nerve gas attack that brought the U.S. to the brink of striking Syrian government forces, were dismantled and shipped out of the country.

But there were two important and deadly loopholes. The first was that Assad did not declare everything—a reality that Kerry acknowledged publicly, including in a farewell memo to staff, in which he wrote that “unfortunately other undeclared chemical weapons continue to be used ruthlessly against the Syrian people.” The second was that chlorine gas, which has legitimate civilian uses, was not part of the deal. The Syrian American Medical Society and the White Helmets civil-defense group have documented 200 chemical attacks in Syria since 2012, many involving chlorine. On Saturday, the group alleged a particularly gruesome attack in the besieged city of Douma, which has reportedly killed dozens and injured hundreds. It remains unclear exactly what chemical weapon was involved in the alleged attack.

The deal’s failure to prevent attacks like this was evident even before last April, when sarin gas killed roughly 100 people in the Syrian town of Khan Sheikhoun. By then, Assad’s renewed campaign of chemical attacks, involving the use of chlorine in barrel bombs, was well underway. But sarin was explicitly prohibited, and those weapons were supposed to be out of the country. The deal, The Atlantic’s Jeffrey Goldberg wrote at the time, “was not a complete failure, in that [chemical-weapons] stockpiles were indeed removed, but Assad kept enough of these weapons to allow him to continue murdering civilians with sarin gas. The argument that Obama achieved comprehensive WMD disarmament without going to war is no longer, as they say in Washington, operative.”

 

https://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2018/04/syria-obama-trump-assad-chemical-douma/557486/

Once again President Trump is left to clean up the stench of failure of obamma's "Bow Down and Apologize" foreign policy methods.

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Once again someone must have hurt your feelings so the spam begins.  :rolleyes:

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It's like I said before, Obama caused irreparable damage to this country. Thank God we now have President Trump to clean up his mess.

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You can be sure of this:

We are pulling out of Syria immediately or we are bombing the hell out of Syria.  :D  :D  

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5 minutes ago, Joba said:

It's like I said before, Obama caused irreparable damage to this country. Thank God we now have President Trump to clean up his mess.

Все приветствуют великого верховного лидера Дональда Трампа, нашего лорда и спасителя!

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1 hour ago, flyboy56 said:

And now we learn France has proof Assad used chemicals on his people once again. 

Macron sounds as convincing as Colin Powell

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4 hours ago, flyboy56 said:

And now we learn France has proof Assad used chemicals on his people once again. 

Then let's all see that proof.

I bet you were suckered by the 'proof' of Saddams Weapons of Mass Destruction too.

Some people never learn.

Edited by WKDWZD

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"Obama's failure" was the resolute stand of the American people on BOTH sides of the aisle not to repeat the same mistake of nation building in the Middle East..  

Edited by zenwalk

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With or without chemical weapons, the Syrian civil war is not our problem.  Let's not make it one.

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11 minutes ago, SemiAuto said:

With or without chemical weapons, the Syrian civil war is not our problem.  Let's not make it one.

Agreed

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21 minutes ago, SemiAuto said:

With or without chemical weapons, the Syrian civil war is not our problem.  Let's not make it one.

The US is part of the UN. We voted for a UN resolution to ban chemical weapons. Chemical weapons have been used in Syria. How is this not our problem? Or any country that makes up the UN? 

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31 minutes ago, zenwalk said:

"Obama's failure" was the resolute stand of the American people on BOTH sides of the aisle not to repeat the same mistake of nation building in the Middle East..  

Obama also called for regime change in Syria. 

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“Sure, he could turn over every single bit of his chemical weapons to the international community in the next week - turn it over, all of it without delay and allow the full and total accounting, but he isn't about to do it and it can't be done,” Kerry said, referring to Assad.

At this point, Russia offered to negotiate precisely that – and Assad said yes.  :rolleyes: On September 10, Obama addressed Americans in front of the White House, explaining that he wanted to give diplomats a chance.

“I have, therefore, asked the leaders of Congress to postpone a vote to authorize the use of force while we pursue this diplomatic path,” he said, arguing that the US threats brought Damascus to heel. :lol:

335618-syria-anniversary-obama-meddling

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8 minutes ago, flyboy56 said:

The US is part of the UN. We voted for a UN resolution to ban chemical weapons. Chemical weapons have been used in Syria. How is this not our problem? Or any country that makes up the UN? 

It is not our problem because Assad has killed plenty of his own people with conventional weapons.  I really want the US to stop being the worlds police force.

If France or the UN want to make it an issue then they can do so.   Just don't get any hopes up about how attacking Syria will turn out.

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4 minutes ago, SemiAuto said:

It is not our problem because Assad has killed plenty of his own people with conventional weapons.  I really want the US to stop being the worlds police force.

If France or the UN want to make it an issue then they can do so.   Just don't get any hopes up about how attacking Syria will turn out.

If the US is to remain committed to the UN it should also stand by the UN resolutions it voted for. The US cannot have it both ways. 

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2 minutes ago, flyboy56 said:

If the US is to remain committed to the UN it should also stand by the UN resolutions it voted for. The US cannot have it both ways. 

Should the US also stand by the UN resolutions against Israel instead of the constant vetoes? Both ways indeed.

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2 minutes ago, WKDWZD said:

Should the US also stand by the UN resolutions against Israel instead of the constant vetoes? Both ways indeed.

If the US votes for any resolution we should stand by them. I believe I made that pretty clear. You are referring to resolutions the US didn't vote for.

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2 minutes ago, WKDWZD said:

Should the US also stand by the UN resolutions against Israel instead of the constant vetoes? Both ways indeed.

That's different.  It's also ok to sell weapons to Saudi Arabia to use on civilians.

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10 minutes ago, flyboy56 said:

If the US is to remain committed to the UN it should also stand by the UN resolutions it voted for. The US cannot have it both ways. 

We can and we do.   As ivanbalt points out, look at 'our friends' the Saudis which is another thing the US could do without.

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3 minutes ago, ivanbalt said:

That's different.  It's also ok to sell weapons to Saudi Arabia to use on civilians.

It's rank hypocrisy! I don't give two monkey's for the opinions of those that are selectively only offended, according to which nation is currently practicing genocide on which other peoples. The truth is, those people and their opinions disgust me.

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Just now, SemiAuto said:

We can and we do.   As ivanbalt points out, look at 'our friends' the Saudis which is another thing the US could do without.

Israel is being given a pass at the UN too

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5 minutes ago, SemiAuto said:

We can and we do.   As ivanbalt points out, look at 'our friends' the Saudis which is another thing the US could do without.

The world economy needs SA oil. And the US needs a strong world economy. Are the weapons we sell to SA banned by the UN?

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2 minutes ago, flyboy56 said:

The world economy needs SA oil. And the US needs a strong world economy. Are the weapons we sell to SA banned by the UN?

God! your morals can be very cheaply purchased can't they!?

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1 minute ago, WKDWZD said:

God! your morals can be very cheaply purchased can't they!?

In his defense, Trump is currently friendly with the Saudis so he needs to follow that lead. 

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