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Ex-FBI deputy director faulted by Justice Department on media disclosure

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The report, written by Inspector General Michael Horowitz, said McCabe “lacked candor” in conversations with Comey and other officials about his green-lighting the sharing information with a Wall Street Journal reporter who was working on a story about an FBI investigation into the Clinton Foundation.

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Lacked Candor... I like that!

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Lying seems to be the currency for the last (two) generations of Washingtonian leaders.

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And no political pressure was applied in this matter.

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10 minutes ago, hst2 said:

And no political pressure was applied in this matter.

Political pressure from two separate sources? 

  The Obama appointed FBI Inspector General  

  The Office of Proffesional Responsibility       

      Both groups  independently came to the same conclusion that Andrew McCabe lied under oath ( lacked candor)  :lol:

 

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18 minutes ago, hst2 said:

And no political pressure was applied in this matter.

McCabe felt that his integrity had been impugned by a WSJ article about his wife receiving campaign donations from Terry McAullife, a Clinton ally.

So McCabe engineered a  misleading  leak to the WSJ about the Clinton Foundation to show he was tough on Hillary Clinton.

After that, it's always the coverup that gets 'em.

 

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2 minutes ago, Cameron said:

McCabe felt that his integrity had been impugned by a WSJ article about his wife receiving campaign donations from Terry McAullife, a Clinton ally.

So McCabe engineered a  misleading  leak to the WSJ about the Clinton Foundation to show he was tough on Hillary Clinton.

After that, it's always the coverup that gets 'em.

 

I'd be pissed about the wife story too. What a crock that story was. Unsurprisingly, Donny still references it.

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6 minutes ago, Jimmy Jazz said:

I'd be pissed about the wife story too. What a crock that story was. Unsurprisingly, Donny still references it.

That's why McCabe was low-hanging fruit for Trunp.

His wife ran as a Democrat and when Mccabe went to the WH to interview for the Director's job, Trump asked him who he voted for.

I agree about the WSJ story:

BREAKING! BREAKING! Terry McAuliffe contributed to a Democrat running in Virginia.

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On 4/13/2018 at 8:48 PM, volperdinger said:

The report, written by Inspector General Michael Horowitz, said McCabe “lacked candor” in conversations with Comey and other officials about his green-lighting the sharing information with a Wall Street Journal reporter who was working on a story about an FBI investigation into the Clinton Foundation.

Lacking Candor is not the same as lying. That said it is fireable.

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look at the trumpanzee willfully ignore the lies (more than just lacking candor) under oath by the current AG....not to mention lying on his SF86....but yet he rubs his hind legs together because someone who has the goods on his hero is fired...firing mccabe is going to work out as well as firing Comey...with the added extra bonus of mccabe knowing what the AG has been up to.....

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8 hours ago, can you hear me now! said:

look at the trumpanzee willfully ignore the lies (more than just lacking candor) under oath by the current AG....not to mention lying on his SF86....but yet he rubs his hind legs together because someone who has the goods on his hero is fired...firing mccabe is going to work out as well as firing Comey...with the added extra bonus of mccabe knowing what the AG has been up to.....

LOLZ.  There is it!  Look at the dempanzees quickly try and change the topic by deflecting to something else!  

The IG, for those who believe they really are independent and believe that it wrong to lie like McCabe did to and to politicize his position - done several times even under oath, was 100% right to recommend that McCabe be fired. 

It was also right to fire McCabe.  He should get ZERO pension for his transgressions under oath.  An FBI employee, let alone a Deputy FBI Director, who did was McCabe was fired for doing is worthless unless lying under oath is something that dempanzees see as an admirable trait.

It's obvious on this thread that some do see it as an admirable trait. 

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On ‎4‎/‎13‎/‎2018 at 8:48 PM, volperdinger said:

The report, written by Inspector General Michael Horowitz, said McCabe “lacked candor” in conversations with Comey and other officials about his green-lighting the sharing information with a Wall Street Journal reporter who was working on a story about an FBI investigation into the Clinton Foundation.

 

On ‎4‎/‎13‎/‎2018 at 9:26 PM, volperdinger said:

Political pressure from two separate sources? 

  The Obama appointed FBI Inspector General  

  The Office of Proffesional Responsibility       

      Both groups  independently came to the same conclusion that Andrew McCabe lied under oath ( lacked candor)  :lol:

 

That McCabe was a liar and should have been fired, and that his firing for lying even under oath and "misdirecting" was not only justifiable but necessary for reasons of maintaining integrity of the FBI, is obvious to anyone who isn't a partisan hack. 

It's clear-cut. Surely, even the whiners can see that even with their partisan blinders on.  Admitting it is more difficult for some of them. 

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11 minutes ago, Ode2Joy said:

LOLZ.  There is it!  Look at the dempanzees quickly try and change the topic by deflecting to something else!  

The IG, for those who believe they really are independent and believe that it wrong to lie like McCabe did to and to politicize his position - done several times even under oath, was 100% right to recommend that McCabe be fired. 

It was also right to fire McCabe.  He should get ZERO pension for his transgressions under oath.  An FBI employee, let alone a Deputy FBI Director, who did was McCabe was fired for doing is worthless unless lying under oath is something that dempanzees see as an admirable trait.

It's obvious on this thread that some do see it as an admirable trait. 

It a little hard to take this seriously given that the report came out the same time that Trump was pardoning Scooter Libby, who was convicted of of perjury, obstruction of justice, and making false statements.

But I wonder one thing, and maybe you can answer it. Who Cares about McCabe? Is it because he is a figure in the Mueller investigation and destroying him might help protect the president from being held accountable for his corruption?

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On 4/13/2018 at 9:26 PM, volperdinger said:

Political pressure from two separate sources? 

  The Obama appointed FBI Inspector General  

  The Office of Proffesional Responsibility       

      Both groups  independently came to the same conclusion that Andrew McCabe lied under oath ( lacked candor)  :lol:

 

Obama also appointed James Comey. Where is he today?

Get the picture?

It's not complicated.

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16 minutes ago, hst2 said:

It a little hard to take this seriously given that the report came out the same time that Trump was pardoning Scooter Libby, who was convicted of of perjury, obstruction of justice, and making false statements.

But I wonder one thing, and maybe you can answer it. Who Cares about McCabe? Is it because he is a figure in the Mueller investigation and destroying him might help protect the president from being held accountable for his corruption?

 

13 minutes ago, hst2 said:

Obama also appointed James Comey. Where is he today?

Get the picture?

It's not complicated.

More whataboutism.  Everyone should care about McCabe unless they're so partisan that they think it's acceptable for a Deputy FBI Director to deliberately and intentionally lie and "misdirect" under oath while being investigated. 

It's not complicated.  McCabe lied under oath.  That's not a characteristic most probably want in a FBI employee and especially in a Deputy Director.  

He was fired and should have been fired. His duties and responsibilities that he violated were more important than working to guaranteeing a nice pension when due diligence and honesty applied to him and the specific reasons the OPR and the OIG both recommended he be dismissed. 

Not complicated at all.  McCabe destroyed himself by lying under oath and "misdirecting". 

Good riddance to bad trash.

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9 hours ago, jtowne-swim said:

Lacking Candor is not the same as lying. That said it is fireable.

The simple-minded cannot possibly comprehend this.

And trying will only make their heads hurt.

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24 minutes ago, Ode2Joy said:

 

More whataboutism.  Everyone should care about McCabe unless they're so partisan that they think it's acceptable for a Deputy FBI Director to deliberately and intentionally lie and "misdirect" under oath while being investigated. 

It's not complicated.  McCabe lied under oath.  That's not a characteristic most probably want in a FBI employee and especially in a Deputy Director.  

He was fired and should have been fired. His duties and responsibilities that he violated were more important than working to guaranteeing a nice pension when due diligence and honesty applied to him and the specific reasons the OPR and the OIG both recommended he be dismissed. 

Not complicated at all.  McCabe destroyed himself by lying under oath and "misdirecting". 

Good riddance to bad trash.

Hypocrisy is now written off as "whataboutism?" How convenient.

I care about FBI agents being held accountable, but I'm not sure what makes this case so remarkable, in and of itself. I am sure, actually. Trump supporters want to protect him from the charges of corruption.

it is much more dangerous for a leader to portray his power grab as justice being served. Everyone should care about that. Its a typical strategy for those who aspire to  totalitarianism.

Let's put your righteous indignation in perspective:

“In 99 percent of cases, a federal employee is not at risk of losing a pension, even when fired,” reports Government Executive magazine. McCabe was treated more harshly than Robert Hanssen, an FBI agent-turned-Russian spy whose wife is able to collect part of his pension even while he is serving life in prison.

McCabe argues that he was targeted because he could corroborate Comey’s allegations that Trump obstructed justice. Trump’s public vilification of McCabe strongly supports that interpretation.

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1 hour ago, Ode2Joy said:

LOLZ.  There is it!  Look at the dempanzees quickly try and change the topic by deflecting to something else!  

The IG, for those who believe they really are independent and believe that it wrong to lie like McCabe did to and to politicize his position - done several times even under oath, was 100% right to recommend that McCabe be fired. 

It was also right to fire McCabe.  He should get ZERO pension for his transgressions under oath.  An FBI employee, let alone a Deputy FBI Director, who did was McCabe was fired for doing is worthless unless lying under oath is something that dempanzees see as an admirable trait.

It's obvious on this thread that some do see it as an admirable trait. 

a word salad of epic proportions.....too bad the standard for telling the truth doesn't get applied evenly....but as long as jeffy remains the AG the trumpanzees are quire happy....situational ethics....a repugnican brand since the 1950's....

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56 minutes ago, hst2 said:

Hypocrisy is now written off as "whataboutism?" How convenient.

I care about FBI agents being held accountable, but I'm not sure what makes this case so remarkable, in and of itself. I am sure, actually. Trump supporters want to protect him from the charges of corruption.

it is much more dangerous for a leader to portray his power grab as justice being served. Everyone should care about that. Its a typical strategy for those who aspire to  totalitarianism.

Let's put your righteous indignation in perspective:

“In 99 percent of cases, a federal employee is not at risk of losing a pension, even when fired,” reports Government Executive magazine. McCabe was treated more harshly than Robert Hanssen, an FBI agent-turned-Russian spy whose wife is able to collect part of his pension even while he is serving life in prison.

McCabe argues that he was targeted because he could corroborate Comey’s allegations that Trump obstructed justice. Trump’s public vilification of McCabe strongly supports that interpretation.

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Only someone writing in the DNC newsletter Washington Post could write:

McCabe was treated more harshly than Robert Hanssen, an FBI agent-turned-Russian spy whose wife is able to collect part of his pension even while he is serving life in prison

and still expect to be taken seriously.

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39 minutes ago, MiddleOfTheRoad said:

Only someone writing in the DNC newsletter Washington Post could write:

McCabe was treated more harshly than Robert Hanssen, an FBI agent-turned-Russian spy whose wife is able to collect part of his pension even while he is serving life in prison

and still expect to be taken seriously.

"Max Boot (born September 12, 1969) is a Russian-American author, consultant, editorialist, lecturer, and military historian.[1] He worked as a writer and editor for Christian Science Monitor and then for The Wall Street Journal in the 1990s. He is now Jeane J. Kirkpatrick Senior Fellow in National Security Studies at the Council on Foreign Relations. He has written for numerous publications such as The Weekly Standard, The Los Angeles Times, and The New York Times, and he has also authored books of military history.[2]Boot's most recent book, 2018's The Road Not Taken, is a biography of Edward Lansdale."

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You find Bretnbart and Infowars more reliable, perhaps?

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28 minutes ago, hst2 said:

"Max Boot (born September 12, 1969) is a Russian-American author, consultant, editorialist, lecturer, and military historian.[1] He worked as a writer and editor for Christian Science Monitor and then for The Wall Street Journal in the 1990s. He is now Jeane J. Kirkpatrick Senior Fellow in National Security Studies at the Council on Foreign Relations. He has written for numerous publications such as The Weekly Standard, The Los Angeles Times, and The New York Times, and he has also authored books of military history.[2]Boot's most recent book, 2018's The Road Not Taken, is a biography of Edward Lansdale."

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You find Bretnbart and Infowars more reliable, perhaps?

Your bio of this “writer” does nothing to dispel the notion that someone who thinks life in prison is less punitive than losing part of a pension is a complete and utter moron.

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50 minutes ago, MiddleOfTheRoad said:

Your bio of this “writer” does nothing to dispel the notion that someone who thinks life in prison is less punitive than losing part of a pension is a complete and utter moron.

His point is that the family of a convicted spy gets a pension, while Trump argues that McCabe and his family should get nothing.

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9 minutes ago, hst2 said:

His point is that the family of a convicted spy gets a pension, while Trump argues that McCabe and his family should get nothing.

His “point” is as empty as your post: Hanssen got a partial pension AND life in prison.  The writer, and you, keep leaving that part out.

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6 minutes ago, MiddleOfTheRoad said:

His “point” is as empty as your post: Hanssen got a partial pension AND life in prison.  The writer, and you, keep leaving that part out.

This doesn't respond to  post you are referring to. The point is about pensions, and that while a convicted spy's family got some, Trump doesn't want McCabe to get any. SWurely, not because of the crime, but because trump wants to destroy a man who is a witness in a corruption matter regarding the president. 

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