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US Healthcare Ranked Worst in Developed World

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What a great photo. The Commonwealth Fund study has some striking graphs and charts illustrating their points. We truly are exceptional letting the medical special interests send us to our graves.

Of the eleven developed nations evaluated by the Commonwealth Fund, the United States comes in dead last on healthcare.

Every three years, the Commonwealth Fund releases a reportranking the healthcare systems of 11 of the world’s developed nation. And every three years, it seems, the United States comes in dead last.

https://www.themaven.net/theintellectualist/news/u-s-healthcare-ranked-worst-in-the-developed-world-Lf4vxMmXZ02Jwpf8_9_aTQ/?full=1

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13 minutes ago, zenwalk said:

What a great photo. The Commonwealth Fund study has some striking graphs and charts illustrating their points. We truly are exceptional letting the medical special interests send us to our graves.

Of the eleven developed nations evaluated by the Commonwealth Fund, the United States comes in dead last on healthcare.

Every three years, the Commonwealth Fund releases a reportranking the healthcare systems of 11 of the world’s developed nation. And every three years, it seems, the United States comes in dead last.

https://www.themaven.net/theintellectualist/news/u-s-healthcare-ranked-worst-in-the-developed-world-Lf4vxMmXZ02Jwpf8_9_aTQ/?full=1

And I bet number 1 in spending on it. 

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4 hours ago, Guido2 said:

And I bet number 1 in spending on it. 

Yes. That's in there as well. The biggest criticism of American healthcare is that we don't do things in bulk so to speak.  Republicans feel smart bulk shopping like they do in every other developed country is somehow socialist.  The present set up does little to mitigate the exorbitant costs of $20 aspirin since the oligarchy naturally doesn't care for that approach. 

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3 minutes ago, zenwalk said:

Yes. That's in there as well. The biggest criticism of American healthcare is that we don't do things in bulk so to speak.  Republicans feel smart bulk shopping like they do in every other developed country is somehow socialist.  The present set up does little to mitigate the exorbitant costs of $20 aspirin since the oligarchy naturally doesn't care for that approach. 

I can buy American pharma drugs over the counter here for a tiny fraction of the price that you pay.

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Just now, WKDWZD said:

I can buy American pharma drugs over the counter here for a tiny fraction of the price that you pay.

Yes. Same is true in Canada and probably every other developed nation. For pharma to sell to you guys they have to observe the national health rules which is to sell in bulk or not at all. We don't have that. We have an oligarchy that directs our political elite via political donations.  Congress is told that pharma can't make a profit unless some country (US) takes up the slack. It's BS of course but that's what we are dealing with.  My son is moving to Japan in a few weeks. He'll be paying $34 a month for universal coverage. 

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5 minutes ago, zenwalk said:

Yes. Same is true in Canada and probably every other developed nation. For pharma to sell to you guys they have to observe the national health rules which is to sell in bulk or not at all. We don't have that. We have an oligarchy that directs our political elite via political donations.  Congress is told that pharma can't make a profit unless some country (US) takes up the slack. It's BS of course but that's what we are dealing with.  My son is moving to Japan in a few weeks. He'll be paying $34 a month for universal coverage. 

And it will be better healthcare too.

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Just now, WKDWZD said:

And it will be better healthcare too.

Yes. To paraphrase Henry II in Lion in Winter "We could have had universal healthcare but we had republicans in our life."  If you can make it to your 60s medicare kicks in which helps a lot but you still have to pay 20% of the bill which also is still a lot.  

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I believe our medical science is the best in the world. Our problem is the delivery. 

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3 minutes ago, FatBoy said:

I believe our medical science is the best in the world. Our problem is the delivery. 

Yes. Couldn't agree more though it's that way because they get the big bucks which in turn drives costs up. 

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1 minute ago, zenwalk said:

Yes. Couldn't agree more though it's that way because they get the big bucks which in turn drives costs up. 

No question. It's all about the money. 

Funny story. I did a consulting gig for a Pharma company in PA for two years. The facility had a cafeteria that was a 4 star eatery. Fresh scones every day, anything you could imagine for breakfast. Lunch offering your choice of three gourmet entrees, a brick oven pizza, a deli that would put anything near my house to shame AND a salad bar that was unbelievable. Oh, they had a nice gym too. LOL. 

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5 minutes ago, FatBoy said:

No question. It's all about the money. 

Funny story. I did a consulting gig for a Pharma company in PA for two years. The facility had a cafeteria that was a 4 star eatery. Fresh scones every day, anything you could imagine for breakfast. Lunch offering your choice of three gourmet entrees, a brick oven pizza, a deli that would put anything near my house to shame AND a salad bar that was unbelievable. Oh, they had a nice gym too. LOL. 

You can ride through most of rusted out America and sure enough the only modern building for blocks in most of these towns will be the hospital. That's certainly true in Baltimore.  And the parking garages look like car ads in Car & Driver magazine.  

The best soup I've ever had I had in a hospital cafeteria. Tried to talk my wife into going back for dinner but she didn't find that amusing.

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18 minutes ago, zenwalk said:

You can ride through most of rusted out America and sure enough the only modern building for blocks in most of these towns will be the hospital. That's certainly true in Baltimore.  And the parking garages look like car ads in Car & Driver magazine.  

You must not have been to Baltimore lately. There is plenty of wealth in the gentrified neighborhoods. You wouldn't recognize the east side of the harbor. 

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26 minutes ago, FatBoy said:

You must not have been to Baltimore lately. There is plenty of wealth in the gentrified neighborhoods. You wouldn't recognize the east side of the harbor. 

It's been over ten years since I've gone back to the city.  Are you talking about the Inner Harbor "bubble?" 

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6 hours ago, zenwalk said:

What a great photo. The Commonwealth Fund study has some striking graphs and charts illustrating their points. We truly are exceptional letting the medical special interests send us to our graves.

Of the eleven developed nations evaluated by the Commonwealth Fund, the United States comes in dead last on healthcare.

Every three years, the Commonwealth Fund releases a reportranking the healthcare systems of 11 of the world’s developed nation. And every three years, it seems, the United States comes in dead last.

https://www.themaven.net/theintellectualist/news/u-s-healthcare-ranked-worst-in-the-developed-world-Lf4vxMmXZ02Jwpf8_9_aTQ/?full=1

Well, if themaven.net/intellectualist says so it must be true.

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2 minutes ago, Lombardi6 said:

Well, if themaven.net/intellectualist says so it must be true.

I've never heard of the site, but I would wager it's more true than Fox.

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Wonder what alfie Evans thinks about this .....

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6 hours ago, zenwalk said:

What a great photo. The Commonwealth Fund study has some striking graphs and charts illustrating their points. We truly are exceptional letting the medical special interests send us to our graves.

Of the eleven developed nations evaluated by the Commonwealth Fund, the United States comes in dead last on healthcare.

Every three years, the Commonwealth Fund releases a reportranking the healthcare systems of 11 of the world’s developed nation. And every three years, it seems, the United States comes in dead last.

https://www.themaven.net/theintellectualist/news/u-s-healthcare-ranked-worst-in-the-developed-world-Lf4vxMmXZ02Jwpf8_9_aTQ/?full=1

I traveled to Wales in 2015. I met a man who had a knee replacement, courtesy of Britain’s NHS. He waited two years. Two....friggin.... years!  When I told him that the wait here in the U.S. would be on average, two months, he thought I was lying to him. So stop trying to peddle this  lying horse manure, about how bad healthcare is here, with manipulative crap such as this link. 

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11 minutes ago, NCBirdfan said:

I've never heard of the site, but I would wager it's more true than Fox.

Of course you would.

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5 minutes ago, volperdinger said:

I traveled to Wales in 2015. I met a man who had a knee replacement, courtesy of Britain’s NHS. He waited two years. Two....friggin.... years!  When I told him that the wait here in the U.S. would be on average, two months, he thought I was lying to him. So stop trying to peddle this  lying horse manure, about how bad healthcare is here, with manipulative crap such as this link. 

My relatives in England, Northern Ireland and Canada disagree with you.

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9 minutes ago, Eastside Terp said:

Wonder what alfie Evans thinks about this .....

Alfie isn't thinking about much at all.

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11 minutes ago, volperdinger said:

I traveled to Wales in 2015. I met a man who had a knee replacement, courtesy of Britain’s NHS. He waited two years. Two....friggin.... years!  When I told him that the wait here in the U.S. would be on average, two months, he thought I was lying to him. So stop trying to peddle this  lying horse manure, about how bad healthcare is here, with manipulative crap such as this link. 

The average wait for knee surgery in the UK is roughly 4 months. 

https://www.statista.com/statistics/488143/knee-surgery-waiting-time-elective-procedure-united-kingdom/

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22 minutes ago, mrsmlh said:

My relatives in England, Northern Ireland and Canada disagree with you.

 

12 minutes ago, zenwalk said:

The man I met lived in WALES. Apparently, there’s a tremendous disparity in healthcare, particularly elective surgery, as opposed to other parts of GB. 

https://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/wales-news/hip-replacement-patients-wales-waiting-6714906

24 minutes ago, mrsmlh said:

My relatives in England, Northern Ireland and Canada disagree with you.

They aren’t in in a position to disagree with me, they don’t live in WALES. Try reading next time. 

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8 hours ago, zenwalk said:

What a great photo. The Commonwealth Fund study has some striking graphs and charts illustrating their points. We truly are exceptional letting the medical special interests send us to our graves.

Of the eleven developed nations evaluated by the Commonwealth Fund, the United States comes in dead last on healthcare.

Every three years, the Commonwealth Fund releases a reportranking the healthcare systems of 11 of the world’s developed nation. And every three years, it seems, the United States comes in dead last.

https://www.themaven.net/theintellectualist/news/u-s-healthcare-ranked-worst-in-the-developed-world-Lf4vxMmXZ02Jwpf8_9_aTQ/?full=1

We may have the worst healthcare in the modern world, but we are free to decline it.

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3 hours ago, hst2 said:

We may have the worst healthcare in the modern world, but we are free to decline it.

To the tune of Bobbie Magee: Free dumb's just another word for healthcare left to lose

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