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Topgolf high-tech driving range coming to South Baltimore

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7 minutes ago, Ode2Joy said:

You're right.  It's going to be right next to the Horseshoe Casino, the one whose revenue flow is going down as the other casinos' revenues are going up. 

Hang on Ode.... I am sure someone here will come up with a link disproving your statement. ;) I won't be me. 

Maybe this golf thing will be the shot in the arm that the Casino needs to get moving again. Hopefully it will be. But I gotta a feeling it is going to be either an great success or an complete failure.  

I think if there were other amenities around it....like a dock for people to put their big expensive boats....I bet (pun intended) both would take off like a rocket. 

I sent a letter to the City Council and Pugh suggesting that. It came back with a red stamp 'No body at that address'. :lol:

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20 hours ago, Boobie said:

I was at the TopGolf in Vegas about 6 weeks ago.   Sure it's fun but I don't see people that can afford to pay $50 an hour for a bay, not those living in Baltimore anyway.  Are people going to drive into the crime-ridden city to do it? ....  I doubt they will more than once.

The bays are for rent on a first-come, first-serve basis. The prices go up throughout the day. From 9 a.m. to noon, it cost $25 per hour per bay. From noon to 5 p.m., it costs $35 and from 5 p.m. to close, the rental fee is $45 an hour. 

https://www.indystar.com/story/news/local/hamilton-county/2017/10/09/how-much-does-cost-play-topgolf/746979001/

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Never heard of it!  Hogan's "nice walk spoiled" is fixed. 

 

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It’s fun.  Think golf but without exercise and with buffalo wings.  It’s like being at a bowling alley but it’s a driving range with auto scoring.  

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On 5/8/2018 at 8:19 PM, Guido2 said:

Can someone please explain the fascination with golf?

There is no real exercise, there seems to me a multitude of variables that super computers would have issues with, everything about it is expensive. what you bought yesterday 'to improve your game' is old hat today, a 'match' can last hours....and so on. 

To me....as best I can determine is that ....golf....is a great excuse to spend a day ....not having to do chores to keep the wife happy. :D;)

I have played a great number of sports ....and golf was one....I just don't see 'it'. If I want to be frustrated....I will come here or go back to work. :D

Beats me... I've never been able to figure out the allure of hitting a little white ball with a club

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14 hours ago, Pickle20 said:

Baltimore metro area is one of the wealthiest metro areas in country. The area where top golf is going to go is hardly crime ridden. This isn’t going in at Sandtown-Winchester. 

 

SMH

if you want to think that fine.

 

Baltimore is one of the most dangerous cities in the country.

 

https://www.economist.com/news/united-states/21724399-america-gets-safer-marylands-biggest-city-does-not-crime-and-despair-baltimore

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 USA Today reviewed the homicide rates in the nation’s 50 largest cities and Baltimore came out on top. The 342 homicides the city experienced in 2017 were a 17 percent increase over the prior year, and translated to a rate of 56 killed per 100,000 people.

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1 hour ago, boink said:

Beats me... I've never been able to figure out the allure of hitting a little white ball with a club

It’s a sport like any other.  Plus a very social sport. Not hard to figure out.

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22 hours ago, Ode2Joy said:

You're right.  It's going to be right next to the Horseshoe Casino, the one whose revenue flow is going down as the other casinos' revenues are going up. 

Yeah? And your point is?

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9 hours ago, Boobie said:

if you want to think that fine.

 

Baltimore is one of the most dangerous cities in the country.

 

https://www.economist.com/news/united-states/21724399-america-gets-safer-marylands-biggest-city-does-not-crime-and-despair-baltimore

So what should we do about it, huh? Nuke it from Cockeysville? 

Its a DRIVING RANGE, folks. Sheesh.  

People here are insufferable. 

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9 hours ago, Dinglehopper said:

It’s a sport like any other.  Plus a very social sport. Not hard to figure out.

That has to be the big selling point....and having an excuse not to be home for the 'honey-dos' for a good part of the day. :D

From what little I played it and from discussions with people that do......I dunno......seems way to much of a head game ....game....seems you can do about a million things wrong on any swing....and rarely...'get' the right thing. 

Seems to me more of an opportunity to drive your blood pressure up than the opportunity for a decent score or a hole in one. 

If I want pain.....I can go downstairs and hit my thumb with a hammer. :D

And to those golfers out there.....I am NOT mocking you or your sport.....it is just a single non-golfers aspect of the sport. I am not trying to prove anything here. OK?

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7 minutes ago, Pickle20 said:

So what should we do about it, huh? Nuke it from Cockeysville? 

Its a DRIVING RANGE, folks. Sheesh.  

People here are insufferable. 

Sometimes you DO come up with great ideas. ;):D

Actually some time back I suggested that the Navel Academy use it for pin point shelling around and outside the Inner Harbor/Golden Arch area. :D

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I went to the driving range yesterday and was hitting it really well. Ready to get out on the course but weather this week looks like crap.

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5 minutes ago, Pickle20 said:

I went to the driving range yesterday and was hitting it really well. Ready to get out on the course but weather this week looks like crap.

I thought you guys play in the rain? Isn't that the reason why they have those humongus umbrella's the size of circus tents :D

One thing I never figured out....how do you swing the club and hold the umbrella at the same time. ;):D

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1 hour ago, Pickle20 said:

Yeah? And your point is?

My point is that location is everything, and Topgolf is likely to have diminishing returns much like the Horseshoe Casino because of its location in the city, and not just because driving ranges tend to be seasonal businesses. Cost matters too and despite the bells and whistles, one driving range is pretty much the same as the next if your purpose for going is to see how far you can hit a bucket of balls. 

Location matters.  Even you admitted that when you said

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This isn’t going in at Sandtown-Winchester. 

 

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7 minutes ago, Ode2Joy said:

My point is that location is everything, and Topgolf is likely to have diminishing returns much like the Horseshoe Casino because of its location in the city, and not just because driving ranges tend to be seasonal businesses. Cost matters too and despite the bells and whistles, one driving range is pretty much the same as the next if your purpose for going is to see how far you can hit a bucket of balls. 

Location matters.  Even you admitted that when you said

 

Yes. And that whole area will be blowing up with investments and construction 

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11 hours ago, Boobie said:

 USA Today reviewed the homicide rates in the nation’s 50 largest cities and Baltimore came out on top. The 342 homicides the city experienced in 2017 were a 17 percent increase over the prior year, and translated to a rate of 56 killed per 100,000 people.

You should definitely stay away.  In fact I don’t think it’s safe for you to enter the country 

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25 minutes ago, Ode2Joy said:

My point is that location is everything, and Topgolf is likely to have diminishing returns much like the Horseshoe Casino because of its location in the city, and not just because driving ranges tend to be seasonal businesses. Cost matters too and despite the bells and whistles, one driving range is pretty much the same as the next if your purpose for going is to see how far you can hit a bucket of balls. 

Location matters.  Even you admitted that when you said

 

It’s actually a good location believe it or not.

So because the casino is losing money, that means what exactly? Should they not put in a movie theater? Bowling alley? Night club? Night club? Restaurant? Bar? Anything? A casino is one thing and something that doesn’t draw from all segments of the population. A driving range like TG does, especially when all other TGs are highly successful. Let’s talk once this thing opens and we find out how it does in its first year. Until then, everything you say about it is anecdotal. 

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So is it being built as a drive to destination or for folks to cross the current no man's land from fed hill.....

Not much happening to the north, west or south in terms of walk ups .....

I walked through there a few weeks ago leaving an oriole game ......

Definitely sketchy ......

I hang out in that area every raven game and it's a lot different on weekend during the day with the 10s of thousands, tailgates, parties, etc.....

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2 hours ago, Guido2 said:

That has to be the big selling point....and having an excuse not to be home for the 'honey-dos' for a good part of the day. :D

From what little I played it and from discussions with people that do......I dunno......seems way to much of a head game ....game....seems you can do about a million things wrong on any swing....and rarely...'get' the right thing. 

Seems to me more of an opportunity to drive your blood pressure up than the opportunity for a decent score or a hole in one. 

If I want pain.....I can go downstairs and hit my thumb with a hammer. :D

And to those golfers out there.....I am NOT mocking you or your sport.....it is just a single non-golfers aspect of the sport. I am not trying to prove anything here. OK?

Some folks like to challenge themselves and some folks are content to post on talk forums 24 7 .......

Different strokes for different folks .... 

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29 minutes ago, Pickle20 said:

It’s actually a good location believe it or not.

So because the casino is losing money, that means what exactly? Should they not put in a movie theater? Bowling alley? Night club? Night club? Restaurant? Bar? Anything? A casino is one thing and something that doesn’t draw from all segments of the population. A driving range like TG does, especially when all other TGs are highly successful. Let’s talk once this thing opens and we find out how it does in its first year. Until then, everything you say about it is anecdotal. 

Driving ranges draw from all segments of the population who golf just like casinos draw from all segments of the population who gamble. 

Location matters. 

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3 minutes ago, workerbee said:

Hmmm. https://markets.financialcontent.com/stocks/quote?Symbol=321%3A915786

ELY Calloway Golf Performance
YTD  ^ 30.22
 
 
 
+30.22%
1 Month ^ 3.28
 
 
3 Month ^ 17.99
 
 
6 Month ^ 29.75
 
 
 
+29.75%
1 Year  ^ 39.41
 
 
 
+39.41%

Nice comeback but it was over $30 at one time .....

There is no disputing that  all golf is off it's all time highs when tiger was drawing them  in ......

Courses are closing after over building, nike has scaled back it's golf division, dicks sporting goods shut down it's large golf departments, golf galaxy has closed a lot of stores .....

Tiger brought thousand if new players out that lost interest when they found out how hard it was and how much time it took .....

Millenials aren't that interested......

My play was scaled back when I had kids and even further when I started training for marathons on weekends during the summers and fall .....

Only so much time in the day .....

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On 5/11/2018 at 6:24 PM, Boobie said:

I was at the TopGolf in Vegas about 6 weeks ago.   Sure it's fun but I don't see people that can afford to pay $50 an hour for a bay, not those living in Baltimore anyway.  Are people going to drive into the crime-ridden city to do it? ....  I doubt they will more than once.

Have you checked out the rents in all those new apartments going up in the city?

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6 minutes ago, Ode2Joy said:

Driving ranges draw from all segments of the population who golf just like casinos draw from all segments of the population who gamble. 

Location matters. 

Yes. I suggest you leave 

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